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Rysko81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.02.2010

Aug 27 @ 9:57 PM ET
You are sooo butthurt....keep posting that...it doesnt get any funnier but I'm sure it makes you feel good...
- Iggysbff

Do you ever stop posting about the Leafs in negative light? Who is really butthurt here? Your obsession is soooo low life its ridiculous. I can just see you as a ghost, trying to haunt the acc. Gzuz, find a hobby.
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Aug 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
Do you ever stop posting about the Leafs in negative light? Who is really butthurt here? Your obsession is soooo low life its ridiculous. I can just see you as a ghost, trying to haunt the acc. Gzuz, find a hobby.
- Rysko81

The fuq?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
Do you ever stop posting about the Leafs in negative light? Who is really butthurt here? Your obsession is soooo low life its ridiculous. I can just see you as a ghost, trying to haunt the acc. Gzuz, find a hobby.
- Rysko81


Ah...it's all in fun. So he hates the Leafs...who cares? Don'y you have a team you absolutely detest? Mine is Vancouver.
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Aug 27 @ 11:41 PM ET
I think a team belongs in Quebec. Just send Columbus or Detroit back to the West.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 28 @ 12:16 AM ET
I hate Bettman. AZ and Florida should not have teams. They should be given to city's like Quebec and Seattle. Remind me why Bettman put 2 teams in Florida again?
- JVR_42_PK81

Bateman didn't put any teams in Florida, expansion locations were done before he took over
SabresNHL
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The image above shows how serious this season was taken, NY
Joined: 04.17.2014

Aug 28 @ 12:37 AM ET
I hate the idea of a team in Vegas. Before expanding, they should be moving the financially troubled teams. Give it some time and if it works out, then you expand. Teams that may need to move are the Yotes (obviously) and a Florida team which for me would be the Panthers. I do pity the fans in those areas but, the NHL is a business. Quebec I'm all for. Canada deserves another team. Seattle seems not bad to me. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:07 AM ET
Dude i dno if you know...but the 80's are lonnnnnnnng over and Edmonton has been horrible for a really long time..
- Rysko81

Wow. Just wow.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Aug 28 @ 5:22 AM ET
Bateman didn't put any teams in Florida, expansion locations were done before he took over
- Yeti1181

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 28 @ 7:05 AM ET
Dude i dno if you know...but the 80's are lonnnnnnnng over and Edmonton has been horrible for a really long time..
- Rysko81

No kidding. 1990 is an excruciatingly long time. Hell, 2006 and coming close seems like forever and a day ago, it's painful, ya know what I mean?
gumper40
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Aug 28 @ 7:47 AM ET
I don't think Marham would have as many fans as people think. I think of it as the Ottawa Senators. Most fans in Ottawa are Leafs fans. If Markham got a team most people in Toronto would be Leafs fans.
- JVR_42_PK81


You are obviously NOT from Ottawa. Because the Sens are a relatively young team, there are still many older fans who were fans of other teams pre-Sens. In fact there are many more Habs fans than Leafs fans here, especially with the French contingent and its proximity to the Quebec border. Sens-Leafs games always have a large number of Leafs fans, some homegrown, but many who travel in to avail themselves of relative inexpensive and readily available tickets.
xcheckmajor
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.28.2013

Aug 28 @ 9:10 AM ET
Reading some earlier comments...

Its funny how blind so many of the comments are. Expansion isn't all about money. Sure, the money is great but what create REAL money? Expansion fees are short sighted and NOT Bettman or the owners objective. Look at the NHL today and the overall revenue compared to the early 90's. Even with inflation taken out, the growth is still phenomenal. The real money comes years down the line when the sport grows from expansion. Expansion creates AWARENESS of the sport. So many of you complain about Florida and Arizona, etc... Do you realize in the past 20 years how many youth programs and children have grown up playing ice hockey in these areas? Southern California, Texas, Arizona, Phoenix, etc... You know what happens when children start watching hockey and rinks get built, and leagues are formed, and kids go to college on hockey scholarships? Its called increasing the competition pool.

I don't know what that Devils fan is talking about with the league getting watered down. You must be too young to remember what the NHL was like before expansion. Compare a 4th liner today to a 4th liner 20 years ago. Compare the skill level of the top 20 draft picks every year with that from 20 years ago. Compare the NCAA hockey program and type of players today than that 20 years ago. Hockey has become a true sport in the US and much of it is because of expansion. IF you keep the game only in areas where it succeeds financially, you never grow. You don't grow new fans, grow the player pool, by only catering to existing fans.

3 years ago, the UC17 National Champions was a team from Texas. Hockey is alive in the sunbelt states and still growing. The competition level to make it to the CHL and NCAA today is FAR harder than it was 20 years ago because of the influx of so many more players. Expansion has created an overall better sport. The skill, speed, talent entering the NHL today is a direct result of this.
SENZZZ
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.04.2013

Aug 28 @ 9:21 AM ET
You are obviously NOT from Ottawa. Because the Sens are a relatively young team, there are still many older fans who were fans of other teams pre-Sens. In fact there are many more Habs fans than Leafs fans here, especially with the French contingent and its proximity to the Quebec border. Sens-Leafs games always have a large number of Leafs fans, some homegrown, but many who travel in to avail themselves of relative inexpensive and readily available tickets.
- gumper40


Agreed. I'm a life long Sens fan, and lived in Ottawa since day 1 (...I was 14 when they started). I'd say the percentage of Sens fans within the city of Ottawa limits is probably around 60-70%. The rest you could probably say is a split between Leafs fans (predominantly in the west-end) and Habs fans (predominantly in the east-end). 1-5% of that remaing group still follow the rest of the original six (mostly Boston and Detroit).

What happens here is when the Leafs are in town, everyone including their uncle drives in from points west - smaller cities like Belleville, Pembroke and Kingston. Then when the Habs play, the same thing pretty well happens with people coming in from Gatineau and points east like Hawkesbury and Cornwall.

I've been a season ticket holder with my father since 1992 and always observe the license plates (frames) and dealership stickers in the parking for these games and notice this. I know it's not an exact science, but 20+ years of seeing this, I think it's generally what happens.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 28 @ 9:45 AM ET
Saskatchewan.
- lg.hooker


No.
sacredquest
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North Bay, ON
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 28 @ 10:07 AM ET
You got to curtail that Colin guy writing about the Leafs. Today it was Clarkson and not only are comments just blather his writing skills are that of a 5th grade student in the slow learners class. That said, he knows nothing.
sacredquest
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North Bay, ON
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
You got to curtail that Colin guy writing about the Leafs. Today it was Clarkson and not only are comments just blather his writing skills are that of a 5th grade student in the slow learners class. That said, he knows nothing.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
You got to curtail that Colin guy writing about the Leafs. Today it was Clarkson and not only are comments just blather his writing skills are that of a 5th grade student in the slow learners class. That said, he knows nothing.
- sacredquest


Curtail your double post, BRO
Gretz2Kurri
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.19.2014

Aug 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
Give Quebec a team, this Vegas talk is ridiculous. I miss seeing the Nordiques jerseys. Heck, while were at it bring the 'Whale' back as well.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
Saskatchewan.
- lg.hooker



Not happening. Much as I would love to have a local team to cheer for, the population base still just isn't there. Biggest city in the province is a 3rd of the size of Winnipeg for (frank)s sake.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
Give Quebec a team, this Vegas talk is ridiculous. I miss seeing the Nordiques jerseys. Heck, while were at it bring the 'Whale' back as well.
- Gretz2Kurri



LONG LIVE THE WHALE
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Aug 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
Not happening. Much as I would love to have a local team to cheer for, the population base still just isn't there. Biggest city in the province is a 3rd of the size of Winnipeg for (frank)s sake.
- BINGO!

Generations of inbreeding has left Saskatchewan with a limited population
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 28 @ 11:30 AM ET

- Flyfreaky

Look it up, they were chosen before he became commish, he just saw them through.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
howie feltersnatch
Location: Why am I here??, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Aug 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
Curtail your double post, BRO
- glove_was_stuck

After he read it back to himself he thought it was funny and had to add the
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 28 @ 11:37 AM ET

- glove_was_stuck


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
Generations of inbreeding has left Saskatchewan with a limited population
- Symba.007


Generations of people leaving for Alberta has left Saskatchewan with a limited population.

They're coming back, though.

250,000 people living in Calgary were born in Sask.

That's almost a full quarter of the population of Sask.
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