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JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Aug 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
I still have Winnipeg ahead of EDM. Just a starting goalie away from taking the wildcard IMO.
- TheNugeIsHuge


Well they have a good top 6 in 1.Ladd Little Kane 2.Byfuglien Schiflee Wheeler.

third line isn't too bad. The fourth line seems pretty poop to me though.

As for their defense its underrated IMO
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Are the Jets in the Mcdavid sweepstakes? I really don't think they are that bad. They need a starting goalie though.
- JVR_42_PK81

Considering the division they play in I think they have an outside shot at McEichel
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Aug 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
I think both teams are going to be good teams in the future. They both still NEED some key pieces to become very good teams though.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
Tambellini/MacTavish vs Nonis? Who’s more incompetent?
- prock


Nonis/Burke
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
Oh this should be good. Im gonna' pull up a chair and grab some popcorn and watch this show unfold
hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Aug 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
How is this even a debate have you guys forgot what division and conference they play in. Leafs not even close
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think the Oil will be a good team in another couple of years.

That being said, I have to say Team Leaf.

It will be hard to lose with two up and coming Norris type D-men and a solid forward group.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

Did you just....yup you did....
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think the Oil will be a good team in another couple of years.

That being said, I have to say Team Leaf.

It will be hard to lose with two up and coming Norris type D-men and a solid forward group.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

A little pre-mature to take that position. Gardiner's is unlikely to ever get to that level and we can only hope that Rielly gets future consideration.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
Leafs. Not a homer answer, just based on the divisions and conferences. Leafs would have the easier road.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
@ Walt and Magnum PI


Those two will be top ten defenders within five years.

Book it!
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
@ Walt and Magnum PI


Those two will be top ten defenders within five years.

Book it!

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Too bad they wont win anything due to Nurse and Klefbom dominating the voting...
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Aug 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
@ Walt and Magnum PI


Those two will be top ten defenders within five years.

Book it!

- Byfuglien Ate Me


I think Rielly will be a Norris candidate defensemen in the future. Obviously not a lock but I am very confident in him. As for Gardiner I think he will be a very good defensemen. I wouldn't say Norris caliber but a good number 3 guy and a top powerplay d man.
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
@ Walt and Magnum PI


Those two will be top ten defenders within five years.

Book it!

- Byfuglien Ate Me

That's great news! Consider it booked.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
Too bad they wont win anything due to Nurse and Klefbom dominating the voting...
- Iggysbff


Come on Walt. We both know...

Rielly Gardiner = Bourque Coffey

Nurse Klefbom = Wesley Galley
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Your ability to shift gears in your commentary is remarkable. One post you're putting together a well thought out collection of facts, the next you're on the Leaf thread posting blatant troll content.
Cool.

- magmoo



Actually he always posts the same stuff regardless of the blog, Leafs fans just have a nact for thinking any point of view that doesn't form with their own destorted view is a "troll", ie the Pronmann prospect ranks, which he was 100% correct about.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Nice article my friend, some good points there.

Both teams are headed in the right direction, but depending on who Carlyle's replacement is ultimately depends on Leafs results. Same with the development and additions to the Oilers blueline. But leaning towards the Leafs on this one.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 26 @ 1:55 PM ET
Tambellini/MacTavish vs Nonis? Who’s more incompetent?
- prock


Definitely Tambellini less competent than Nonis, or any other GM in the History of the NHL. Mac T has been pretty good so far at shedding salary and dead weight, but Tambo was so bad that it would be nearly impossible for Mac T to even the odds in favour of Tambo/Mac T over Nonis. Unless Mac T were somehow able to impossibly trade a winger mot named Hall to the Preds for Weber and only half his salary.....I say Tambo/Mac T combined are still less competent. Not that it matters much.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
Definitely Tambellini less competent than Nonis, or any other GM in the History of the NHL. Mac T has been pretty good so far at shedding salary and dead weight, but Tambo was so bad that it would be nearly impossible for Mac T to even the odds in favour of Tambo/Mac T over Nonis. Unless Mac T were somehow able to impossibly trade a winger mot named Hall to the Preds for Weber and only half his salary.....I say Tambo/Mac T combined are still less competent. Not that it matters much.
- Jeropotato


Mike Milbury takes the cake there I'd say.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Aug 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
Actually he always posts the same stuff regardless of the blog, Leafs fans just have a nact for thinking any point of view that doesn't form with their own destorted view is a "troll", ie the Pronmann prospect ranks, which he was 100% correct about.
- SpoiledByOil

Anyone have a link to Pronmans ranking?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
Anyone have a link to Pronmans ranking?
- TandA4Flames


Cost you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Pea-Brain
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Dubastown
Joined: 09.28.2009

Aug 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
Anyone have a link to Pronmans ranking?
- TandA4Flames

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pronmans+ranking
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
Nonis/Burke
- Iggysbff



Okay I see.

So would you say that all this:


But since becoming president when Katz took over he was tasked to turn the club into an entertainment company. He fired the old scouts nd training staff. Hired a whole new group. Built a European scouting staff. Built an entire development system that we didnt have before. We now have the AHL Oil Barons, ECHL Condors, and the WHL Oil Kings all under the Oilers banner and can now develop our own prospects. Lowe has not been perfect by any stretch. But has done many good things that most fans dont even know about. The on ice product is entirely in MacT's hands.


Plus 7 top 2 picks equals playoff spot? 9 top 2 picks? Just curious, MacT, Lowe, and all of these things plus how many top picks will get a playoff spot?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
Too bad they wont win anything due to Nurse and Klefbom dominating the voting...
- Iggysbff



Didn’t Nurse get cut from Team Canada? The guy can’t make a TC junior team, but somehow is set to win Norris trophies?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
Your ability to shift gears in your commentary is remarkable. One post you're putting together a well thought out collection of facts, the next you're on the Leaf thread posting blatant troll content.
Cool.

- magmoo


Does Iggysbf say anything that outlandish? Guys like him get labeled trolls for making comments like "Phaneuf is a decent D-Man but his contract is a bit stiff and will difficult to move", or, "Bernier has yet to prove he can put up great numbers for 60+ games in a season" or "Khadri is talented, but needs to work on his 2-way game". None of those this are outlandish or false, they are however, not what Leafs fans want to hear".

Now, saying things like "Kessel sucks because he is fat", or "Rielly and Gardiner will never be dominant D-Men" or "James Reimer should be in the AHL" are all stupid and ignorant comments similar to what we here as Oilers fans. For example "RNH is too small and won't be able to stay healthy", "Justin Schultz will never be able to improve defensively" or "The Oilers will never turn the corner until Kevin Lowe is out of the organization". All idiotic comments we hear all the time.

Iggy doesn't post that kind of poop, you guys just don't like it when he says that "Holland can be a dominant forward....in the AHL". Not that I blame you, why would you like it?
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Aug 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
Actually he always posts the same stuff regardless of the blog, Leafs fans just have a nact for thinking any point of view that doesn't form with their own destorted view is a "troll", ie the Pronmann prospect ranks, which he was 100% correct about.
- SpoiledByOil

That was one of the more annoying exchanges of the summer.

If you ran a poll, you'd probably find some Leaf fans agree that most stuff published by Pronmann is of little/no value and that the prospect ranks were very subjective (and suspect).

It's easy to get a rise out of many of the HB Leafs fans. Too easy to be considered sporting.
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