James Tanner has to be the most biased writer ever. He knows very little about hockey and vastly over values your players and way to optimistic. You dont loose you to most successful forwards and only get gagner and be better. Gagne couldnt cut it in the top six in edmenton and you are expecting him to be on your first line. It wont work. When you move players up from third line to second it make your team worse no matter what. You will be less deep and not be able to run three lines. Then your expecting a rookie to be one of your leading scorers on you team hahahahahaha good luck!!!!
- hanleyaj

This was incredibly painful to read.

No one has seen enough of players to make a real top prospect list that is anything but guessing. The fact is, each team, player, blogger and fan will overrate their own prospects.

I think Druin will be a star player, but will he get the minutes on a stacked Lightning forward group that Domi will get in Az? I mean, i guess we could just talk the prospect list as factual and not write anything at all, but where would the fun in that be?
- James_Tanner

The point was you thought he has the potential of being 100 point player. Which mean he would be top five or top three player in nhl. I was saying that is so unrealistic. Considering he isnt even top prospect. If you look at the top five players they were all one of the top prospects before they came out. So you cant expect a domi to meet ur expectations. He will top out at 60-70 and that is still a very good player and be top 6 on any team but will most likely be around 50-60 point player.

Drouin with stammer = automatic calder
- kessellover69

Automatic Boner !

Eventually I'd think that would be the plan. However he's a LW and you'd think he'd start the year behind Palat and Kilorn.
- stormey

Quite sure he gets an early look next to Stamkos.

Quite sure he gets an early look next to Stamkos.
- WaterBoy

If they weren't a Cup Contending team, I'd say for sure, but the Lightning have a shot to win so I can't see them handing a top line job to a rookie. However, he's potentially amazing, so its a possibility.

You said Hanzel is gonna be the last #1 centre and then go on to predict what Gagne would do as the last #1 centre...one of them isn't gonna get top line minutes so adjust your math. As for Domi if he goes the entire season without being sent to the ahl I will be very surprised. Tibbet likes veterans who can play his system. The moment Domi's growing pains (which every rookie has) negativly effect the team he will find himself parked on the bench or on a plane to an ahl city.
If your relying on Sam Gagne to be the good #2 centre he couldn't be in Edmonton AND Max Domi to have a 20g 50pts season to make the playoffs you're in for a long wake up call...good luck! You're gonna need it!

You said Hanzel is gonna be the last #1 centre and then go on to predict what Gagne would do as the last #1 centre...one of them isn't gonna get top line minutes so adjust your math. As for Domi if he goes the entire season without being sent to the ahl I will be very surprised. Tibbet likes veterans who can play his system. The moment Domi's growing pains (which every rookie has) negativly effect the team he will find himself parked on the bench or on a plane to an ahl city.
If your relying on Sam Gagne to be the good #2 centre he couldn't be in Edmonton AND Max Domi to have a 20g 50pts season to make the playoffs you're in for a long wake up call...good luck! You're gonna need it!
- dirt_face

At least someone in this chat room isnt a complete idiot.

At least someone in this chat room isnt a complete idiot.
- hanleyaj

Yeah, he sounds very smart.


Who's this Hanzel guy ?

James Tanner has to be the most biased writer ever. He knows very little about hockey and vastly over values your players and way to optimistic. You dont loose you to most successful forwards and only get gagner and be better. Gagne couldnt cut it in the top six in edmenton and you are expecting him to be on your first line. It wont work. When you move players up from third line to second it make your team worse no matter what. You will be less deep and not be able to run three lines. Then your expecting a rookie to be one of your leading scorers on you team hahahahahaha good luck!!!!
- hanleyaj

Stay in school... or go back if you didn't...

The point was you thought he has the potential of being 100 point player. Which mean he would be top five or top three player in nhl. I was saying that is so unrealistic. Considering he isnt even top prospect. If you look at the top five players they were all one of the top prospects before they came out. So you cant expect a domi to meet ur expectations. He will top out at 60-70 and that is still a very good player and be top 6 on any team but will most likely be around 50-60 point player.
- hanleyaj

What is this....a pretty intelligent post....it seems like just a few months ago you were spouting off some the internets dumbest posts ever.

Glad to see you have changed your ways. Solid post.

At least someone in this chat room isnt a complete idiot.
- hanleyaj

Hay I aint no idiot

Hay I aint no idiot
- kessellover69

Curious handle tho, I must say.

Hay I aint no idiot
- kessellover69

he probably meant that we are all idots, which, clearly, we are.

he probably meant that we are all idots, which, clearly, we are.
- James_Tanner

I lead my own team of idiots.

I lead my own team of idiots.
- WaterBoy

and I follow Waterboy.

I had to LOL when I heard "I fully expect domi to win the calder".

I wish it had been written earlier in the article so I could have stopped sooner.

Ok, Domi is probably going to be a very good player. How good, well see. An NHL player, probably 2nd line, maybe 1st line, but we'll see.

It's a homeristic man-crush to go out and blantantly say " I fully expect him to win", especially when guys like Druin, Ekblad, Reinhart, guys drafted higher will be taking the stage this season. Seriously, use some logic.

And I'm not going to slam the yotes, I'm impressed with what they do with the cast they have. But you take out two top point getters (and not even that great, for being top point getters) and I don't know how anyone expects them to take a step forward without some infusion of new talent or development from the rookies.

and I follow Waterboy.
- stormey

Team W.A.D.

I had to LOL when I heard "I fully expect domi to win the calder".

I wish it had been written earlier in the article so I could have stopped sooner.

Ok, Domi is probably going to be a very good player. How good, well see. An NHL player, probably 2nd line, maybe 1st line, but we'll see.

It's a homeristic man-crush to go out and blantantly say " I fully expect him to win", especially when guys like Druin, Ekblad, Reinhart, guys drafted higher will be taking the stage this season. Seriously, use some logic.

And I'm not going to slam the yotes, I'm impressed with what they do with the cast they have. But you take out two top point getters (and not even that great, for being top point getters) and I don't know how anyone expects them to take a step forward without some infusion of new talent or development from the rookies.
- jackzack87

Especially when he will potentially be competing with Ekblad, Nurse, Reinhart (x2), Draisaitl, Johhny Gudreau, Jonathan Drouin and about 20 other young men with way more talent and ability.

I had to LOL when I heard "I fully expect domi to win the calder".

I wish it had been written earlier in the article so I could have stopped sooner.

Ok, Domi is probably going to be a very good player. How good, well see. An NHL player, probably 2nd line, maybe 1st line, but we'll see.

It's a homeristic man-crush to go out and blantantly say " I fully expect him to win", especially when guys like Druin, Ekblad, Reinhart, guys drafted higher will be taking the stage this season. Seriously, use some logic.

And I'm not going to slam the yotes, I'm impressed with what they do with the cast they have. But you take out two top point getters (and not even that great, for being top point getters) and I don't know how anyone expects them to take a step forward without some infusion of new talent or development from the rookies.
- jackzack87

Sekac from the habs i would say.

Actually that doesn't make for a weak argument at all. See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknesses by analysts the world over, no matter what it is they are analyzing, is to place too much emphasis on what actually occurred, thus creating a bias towards events dependent on variables no more or less likely to repeat themselves than ones that would have altered reality in the first place.

So, yes, not only is it plausible to base an argument on what could have been, it is very much more often the better way to do things.
- James_Tanner

Ok, let's see if I got your logic down, we'll use Gagner as an example during the 2014 season:

Outcome A- Gagner finishes with >50 PTs.
Outcome B- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs.
Outcome C- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs but missed significant games.

Outcome A has never occurred in 7 chances(seasons), a 0% occurrence rate
Outcome B has occurred in all 7 seasons, or 100% occurrence rate
Outcome C has occurred in 2 of 7 seasons so about 29% occurrence

And from this Objective information you draw the conclusion that his chances of having a career season are even higher this year? I think your problem is you confuse logic and rational thought with the simple whims/wishes of a fan.
You certainly have to be a fan of your team to be their blogger but nobody will take you seriously if you also can't differentiate between the two.

Ok, let's see if I got your logic down, we'll use Gagner as an example during the 2014 season:

Outcome A- Gagner finishes with >50 PTs.
Outcome B- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs.
Outcome C- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs but missed significant games.

Outcome A has never occurred in 7 chances(seasons), a 0% occurrence rate
Outcome B has occurred in all 7 seasons, or 100% occurrence rate
Outcome C has occurred in 2 of 7 seasons so about 29% occurrence

And from this Objective information you draw the conclusion that his chances of having a career season are even higher this year? I think your problem is you confuse logic and rational thought with the simple whims/wishes of a fan.
You certainly have to be a fan of your team to be their blogger but nobody will take you seriously if you also can't differentiate between the two.
- nikel

The synopsis of 100% of his blogs.

Ok, let's see if I got your logic down, we'll use Gagner as an example during the 2014 season:

Outcome A- Gagner finishes with >50 PTs.
Outcome B- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs.
Outcome C- Gagner finishes with <50 PTs but missed significant games.

Outcome A has never occurred in 7 chances(seasons), a 0% occurrence rate
Outcome B has occurred in all 7 seasons, or 100% occurrence rate
Outcome C has occurred in 2 of 7 seasons so about 29% occurrence

And from this Objective information you draw the conclusion that his chances of having a career season are even higher this year? I think your problem is you confuse logic and rational thought with the simple whims/wishes of a fan.
You certainly have to be a fan of your team to be their blogger but nobody will take you seriously if you also can't differentiate between the two.
- nikel

Very succinctly stated. I seem to have a difficult time expressing those same or similar thoughts without berating or condescending to. Nicely done.

Very succinctly stated. I seem to have a difficult time expressing those same or similar thoughts without berating or condescending to. Nicely done.
- MnGump

I'm just lazy.

Especially when he will potentially be competing with Ekblad, Nurse, Reinhart (x2), Draisaitl, Johhny Gudreau, Jonathan Drouin and about 20 other young men with way more talent and ability.
- Jeropotato

I like how you just threw Nurse and draisaitl in their. they have no chance of calder even less then domi. Dumb fans, over value your players. Be realistic!!!

I like how you just threw Nurse and draisaitl in their. they have no chance of calder even less then domi. Dumb fans, over value your players. Be realistic!!!
- hanleyaj

That's the poster I know. You have an issue with Draisaitl but not with Reinhart?