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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
I get that style as being the flavor of the week in the goaltending world.

It always seemed to me, however, that goalies like Quick and Bobo who tend to crouch more than others in close, though using it successfully, still leave a gaping hole over their shoulder. I oft times found myself yelling at the TV for the attackers to go top corner.

Now I realize the closer you are to the goal, that top corner diminishes and it's difficult to pick spots in the heavy traffic areas, but is it me or do some goaltenders, Quick included, seem to drop in that position, too low, too soon?



- 77rams


Sure, many drop too soon, sometimes in this situation. I don't think quick is guilty of this wrt to the rvh. He's really, really good with this technique. Quick is guilty of over challenging in oddman rush situations and despite his agility and quickness will get beat, usually up high, because he can't cover the open portion fast enough.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
Jim Mckay in that yellow blazer. "Our greatest hopes and our worst fears are seldom realized." Our worst fears have been realized tonight. They have now said there were 11 hostages; two were killed in their rooms yesterday morning, nine were killed at the airport tonight. They're all gone."

Just terrible.

- PLindbergh31


Very sad, and so senseless.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Very sad, and so senseless.
- hammarby31


It seems like majority of things that go on in the world are senseless.
No worries, our fearless leader has been faced with the critical decision of 5 iron, or fairway wood.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
It seems like majority of things that go on in the world are senseless.
No worries, our fearless leader has been faced with the critical decision of 5 iron, or fairway wood.

- PLindbergh31


There's a lot of terrible things going on now, seemingly more than usual. It really makes me sad.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 26 @ 4:49 PM ET
Per Dave Isaac of the Courier-Post, no invites were issued to Penner or Malone. Also, if the locker room plates are accurate, Del Zotto will be number 15, Umberger 18 & Schultz will wear 55
- Jsaquella


More accurately, the GM won't comment on it at all and the coaches say they don't "expect" it. I personally don't think they are coming -- Penner in particular will probably have other invites -- but I also remember when the Flyers said they hadn't invited Bill Guerin (despite the fact he was working out in Voorhees), Bryan Berard and Mark Bell -- none of whom made the team -- right up until they were actually there at the opening of camp in various seasons.

They aren't going to tip their hands any which way.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
Leino parlayed a stellar playoff into a huge contract. Cab fare for Pegula.
- PLindbergh31


A stellar playoff in 2010 and a pretty good season the next year (including a strong playoff series against Buffalo).
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
More accurately, the GM won't comment on it at all and the coaches say they don't "expect" it. I personally don't think they are coming -- Penner in particular will probably have other invites -- but I also remember when the Flyers said they hadn't invited Bill Guerin (despite the fact he was working out in Voorhees), Bryan Berard and Mark Bell -- none of whom made the team -- right up until they were actually there at the opening of camp in various seasons.

They aren't going to tip their hands any which way.

- bmeltzer


I just saw the quote where Hextall said "I haven't heard that" when asked specifically about Penner.

I wouldn't bring in either, myself. They have young guys fighting for spots, and I'd rather give them the opportunity than two vets, neither of whom seem to have a ton left in the tank(especially Malone).
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
It always seemed to me, however, that goalies like Quick and Bobo who tend to crouch more than others in close, though using it successfully, still leave a gaping hole over their shoulder. I oft times found myself yelling at the TV for the attackers to go top corner.
- 77rams


Think the paddle down makes it that much worse... short side high is wide open as well.

I'd imagine that there's gonna be a pretty nice living to be made for guys who can roof it within 10' of the net in the coming years, and wicked LeClairian toe curves will be on the upswing.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Aug 26 @ 5:44 PM ET
I know we are thin at LW but is there anyway they could find someone other than 2 dudes in their mid 30's one of which is a drunk cokehead and the other a fat mess?


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 26 @ 5:49 PM ET
They aren't going to tip their hands any which way.
- bmeltzer


I sometimes wonder if NHL clubs really glean any kind of tangible advantage from their obsessive preoccupation with controlling information. Injuries, salaries, roster info, metrics, camp invites... you can't even watch the other team's morning skate w/o getting pooh pooh'd. Seems like overkill.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 26 @ 5:50 PM ET
I sometimes wonder if NHL clubs really glean any kind of tangible advantage from their obsessive preoccupation with controlling information. Injuries, salaries, roster info, metrics, camp invites... you can't even watch the other team's morning skate w/o getting pooh pooh'd. Seems like overkill.
- Tomahawk


As long as they believe it does, they'll continue to do it.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Aug 26 @ 5:50 PM ET
I sometimes wonder if NHL clubs really glean any kind of tangible advantage from their obsessive preoccupation with controlling information. Injuries, salaries, roster info, metrics, camp invites... you can't even watch the other team's morning skate w/o getting pooh pooh'd. Seems like overkill.
- Tomahawk



No, they're mostly control freaks.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Reverse VH, Penner and Malone Invite Rumors, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer

Penner and Malone both blow. I'd rather have Hartnell.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 26 @ 5:58 PM ET
Penner and Malone both blow. I'd rather have Hartnell.
- SuperSchennBros


You have the option to become a Columbus fan
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
I know we are thin at LW but is there anyway they could find someone other than 2 dudes in their mid 30's one of which is a drunk cokehead and the other a fat mess?
- Pelle31Forever


Palushaj, Ryan Jones, Leino & Drayson Bowman are the only sub-30 wingers left out there that would even be worth a look.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 26 @ 6:11 PM ET
It was in honor of the 11 Israeli athletes murdered in Munich at the 72 games, and it's also my birth year.


- hammarby31


Awesome, great choice!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 6:12 PM ET
There's a lot of terrible things going on now, seemingly more than usual. It really makes me sad.
- hammarby31

Speaking of terrible things, GiG just lost his wallet last night. Soc included. I put it in my wallet for 3 days because it needed to be copied for an insurance waiver for school. I've had the wallet for 6 years.

3 days in 6 years it's been in there. I was going to take it out today after I had confirmation that the insurance was waived.

So now I'm calling everyone about cancelling everything (I didn't own any credit cards luckily) and taking out one of those 90 day fraud protection things.

I lost count of the amount of alcohol I've had today.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 26 @ 6:23 PM ET
It seems like majority of things that go on in the world are senseless.
No worries, our fearless leader has been faced with the critical decision of 5 iron, or fairway wood.

- PLindbergh31


flyersgod is that u ?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 26 @ 6:27 PM ET
I know we are thin at LW but is there anyway they could find someone other than 2 dudes in their mid 30's one of which is a drunk cokehead and the other a fat mess?
- Pelle31Forever

I would take Penner tbh. Add him, and assume Laughton makes the club and you can defintely run four lines that can score

Schenn G Jake
Read Coots Simmonds
Umberger Vinny Raffl
Penner Laughton Akeson
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
If Schultz wants #55 he has to go thru this guy.




(Really though, lets hope neither see Flyers action outside the preseason this year.)
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
If Schultz wants #55 he has to go thru this guy.




(Really though, lets hope neither see Flyers action outside the preseason this year.)

- hereticpride


He'll be back with Rimouski so it won't be an issue for this upcoming season.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
Speaking of terrible things, GiG just lost his wallet last night. Soc included. I put it in my wallet for 3 days because it needed to be copied for an insurance waiver for school. I've had the wallet for 6 years.

3 days in 6 years it's been in there. I was going to take it out today after I had confirmation that the insurance was waived.

So now I'm calling everyone about cancelling everything (I didn't own any credit cards luckily) and taking out one of those 90 day fraud protection things.

I lost count of the amount of alcohol I've had today.

- Giroux_Is_God


That blows, sorry dude
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
He'll be back with Rimouski so it won't be an issue for this upcoming season.
- ob18


And he's been assigned #50.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
And he's been assigned #50.
- Tomahawk


Oh no! The last Flyers to wear that was...wait, who the Hell ever wore that?

Edit: Apparently Ruslan Fedotenko and Scott Sandelin
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
Oh no! The last Flyers to wear that was...wait, who the Hell ever wore that?

Edit: Apparently Ruslan Fedotenko and Scott Sandelin

- Jsaquella


Beat me to it. Damn you.
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