"these guys?" Howdy there, Judas! You're one of us!
- UIF

PeteM for Tomburton99

Oduya + Sharp for Nielsen + de Haan
- rangerdanger94

That does not help us.. just losing deHaan is a step backwards.

XxNYIxX

Bogosian for Strome or Nelson
- rangerdanger94

No thank you

XxNYIxX

PeteM for Tomburton99
- rangerdanger94

Id rather trade Tavares

XxNYIxX

"these guys?" Howdy there, Judas! You're one of us!
- UIF

True enough but in this case I did not allow myself to dragged down to that level.

PeteM for Tomburton99
- rangerdanger94

Sorry, I have a no trade

Sorry, I have a no trade
- PeteM

Oduya + Sharp for Nielsen + de Haan
- rangerdanger94

Not a chance.

Boychuk. Perfect fit. From the Hawks, Oduya but I don't like the idea of giving up a prospect, and I expect the Hawks don't want a third round pick

**assuming you want one of our good prospects.
- Isles_since_6

As I believe Boychuck and Oduya both have one year left on their current contracts and both are veterans and top 4 defensemen on Stanley Cup winners, I can only surmise that 1) Snow would not be able to sign either one to an extended contract and 2) the Islanders are not very serious about trying to get a proven top 4 veteran defenseman unless its a really older veteran UFA like Boyle who the Islanders could not even get to think about signing. So good luck!

As I believe Boychuck and Oduya both have one year left on their current contracts and both are veterans and top 4 defensemen on Stanley Cup winners, I can only surmise that 1) Snow would not be able to sign either one to an extended contract and 2) the Islanders are not very serious about trying to get a proven top 4 veteran defenseman unless its a really older veteran UFA like Boyle who the Islanders could not even get to think about signing. So good luck!
- FourOrr

Here's a better question... Who are the Hawks going to trade to get under the cap? The same question can be said for the Bruins as well....
So bc of cap issues both teams are at a slight disadvantage that most GM's know...

Sorry, I have a no trade
- PeteM

Nice to see someone have the rangers on their "no" list.

Nice to see someone have the rangers on their "no" list.
- Cptmjl

Kesler too

Here's a better question... Who are the Hawks going to trade to get under the cap? The same question can be said for the Bruins as well....
So bc of cap issues both teams are at a slight disadvantage that most GM's know...
- Ur Not Me

That is a fair question. I am not sure about the Bruins but I am fairly sure the Hawks can move Leddy or Oduya + maybe a mid-level prospect/pick for a prospect and a 2nd round pick at minimum. But time will tell...

That is a fair question. I am not sure about the Bruins but I am fairly sure the Hawks can move Leddy or Oduya + maybe a mid-level prospect/pick for a prospect and a 2nd round pick at minimum. But time will tell...
- FourOrr

Kevin Hayes for Patrick Sharp

Kevin Hayes for Patrick Sharp
- rangerdanger94

Go on there board and propose it....

Go on there board and propose it....
- Ur Not Me

OK.... Good luck this season.

OK.... Good luck this season.
- FourOrr

Thanks same to u as well....

Nice to see someone have the rangers on their "no" list.
- Cptmjl

Actually its a one team list.

The cap ceiling is barely a dot on the horizon for the Isles, so contract wouldn't really be an issue, imo, as long as Nash is productive. I'd take Nash over Okposo any day. I actually think swapping Okposo for Nash on the first line would be like swapping Moulson for Vanek...a definite upgrade, but people would argue about whether it was a critical upgrade.
- UIF

Nash on JT's wing would be scary good. Nash is better than Vanek...probably a lot better when he's on. I think Okposo is different- he can bring other things that Nash doesn't bring, and I think he will, going forward.....but for straight up goal scoring, a Nash level player on Tavares' wing would make that line elite, regardless of who is on the other wing.

That said, I'd still take a number 5 defenseman over Rick Nash at this point- not in terms of overall talent, obviously, but purely in terms of upgrading THIS team. Nash, in a good year, is probably a 15-20% upgrade over Okposo, going forward. In contrast, Oduya (for example) is a 100% upgrade over Strait or Carkner, flat out. That's what we need.

Actually its a one team list.
- PeteM

Panthers?

Why not just buy out Josh Bailey...it's a wasted roster slot. Nothing more needs to be said.

I can't believe you guys are debating Nash vs okposo. Nash is way better. It's not even close. I'm an isles fan too. Don't let your loyalty to team cloud your judgement.

As I believe Boychuck and Oduya both have one year left on their current contracts and both are veterans and top 4 defensemen on Stanley Cup winners, I can only surmise that 1) Snow would not be able to sign either one to an extended contract and 2) the Islanders are not very serious about trying to get a proven top 4 veteran defenseman unless its a really older veteran UFA like Boyle who the Islanders could not even get to think about signing. So good luck!
- FourOrr

I'm sure Snow is very serious about upgrading the top four but he's smart too. He sees the forest through the trees. He's not going to give up a top prospect that could be a contributor for years for a decent D-man like a Boychuk or Oduya just to have them for 1 year then walk. That would be poor asset management. It would be a stupid move to marginally improve in the short term, and not improve enough to make it worth while.

The price for top four D-men is astronomical. If you're going to empty the cupboard for one , it better be for a young one signed long term. If not, they're not worth trading for.

I'm sure Snow is very serious about upgrading the top four but he's smart too. He sees the forest through the trees. He's not going to give up a top prospect that could be a contributor for years for a decent D-man like a Boychuk or Oduya just to have them for 1 year then walk. That would be poor asset management. It would be a stupid move to marginally improve in the short term, and not improve enough to make it worth while.

The price for top four D-men is astronomical. If you're going to empty the cupboard for one , it better be for a young one signed long term. If not, they're not worth trading for.
- Jethro09

I get that defenseman are at a premium these days in the nhl but why does everyone think the price would be astronomical? Many considered amac a top four and we got a second and a fourth. Now we all know amac is a piece of junk but he seemed to be perceived around the nhl as being at worst a top 4. Not saying this to be a douche but where does everyone get the ridiculous prcies for top 4's. From d man getting signed to absurd contracts?
I dont think hawk fans saying what theyd like for oduya or boston fans valuing boychuck is a good reference for what wed actually have to pay.

I get that defenseman are at a premium these days in the nhl but why does everyone think the price would be astronomical? Many considered amac a top four and we got a second and a fourth. Now we all know amac is a piece of junk but he seemed to be perceived around the nhl as being at worst a top 4. Not saying this to be a douche but where does everyone get the ridiculous prcies for top 4's. From d man getting signed to absurd contracts?
I dont think hawk fans saying what theyd like for oduya or boston fans valuing boychuck is a good reference for what wed actually have to pay.
- Cptmjl

thats my point. A-Mac cost a second and fourth. Someone that you might actually want to fill out your top four would cost more than that. I'm not saying its going to cost de Haan and a second, but its going to be more than a 2 and a 4. I just don't see the point of trading one of our top prospects or young players for a d-man to "fill out our top four" if that guy is only signed for one year.