If they trade Leddy I HIGHLY doubt they will take back money. More like a pick and prospect. Move Dahlbeck up, send Teuvo done....and you still have something like 787K in cap space.

Regin is versatile enough to play W or C. You have Rundblad as your 7th D man. that gives you a 22 man roster.

that would be my guess.
- SteveRain

Still saying:

Oduya on LTIR to start the season (1st 20-25 games)
Leddy moved up to 2nd pair
Leddy fares well > Oduya possibly shopped or one of a number of other suspects
Leddy does not fare well > Leddy gone, Oduya brought back off LTIR

Still do not believe Stanley (and Scottie) give up on a 23 yr old d-man with some of the skills Leddy has in the toolkit without 1st seeing him in a extended preview. Maybe they give him this shot and tell him same.

Still don't think needing the contract after this year is as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, still RFA status. And also don't believe the whole agent issue will drive the deal either. Cannot tell me an NHL club is going to walk away from a player just because their agent is one of the tougher ones to bargain with in the league. What are we, babies? If that was the case, someone needs to grow up and grow a pair.

Still saying:

Oduya on LTIR to start the season (1st 20-25 games)
Leddy moved up to 2nd pair
Leddy fares well > Oduya possibly shopped or one of a number of other suspects
Leddy does not fare well > Leddy gone, Oduya brought back off LTIR

Still do not believe Stanley (and Scottie) give up on a 23 yr old d-man with some of the skills Leddy has in the toolkit without 1st seeing him in a extended preview. Maybe they give him this shot and tell him same.

Still don't think needing the contract after this year is as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, still RFA status. And also don't believe the whole agent issue will drive the deal either. Cannot tell me an NHL club is going to walk away from a player just because their agent is one of the tougher ones to bargain with in the league. What are we, babies? If that was the case, someone needs to grow up and grow a pair.
- savvyone-1

Is this even necessary? I know Oduya broke his foot but he said he'd be ready to start the season.

Stan will if Leddy is asking for too much money.

Are we making a deal or what?

Are we making a deal or what?
- Vukota

Sure, Leddy for Nelson

Where's Jessie Jackson when you need him?
- FourFeathers773

Don't know, I've never felt he was needed for anything...ever.

Sure, Leddy for Nelson
- FourFeathers773

I thought it was Leddy for Martin?

If the hawks move Leddy, I'd like to see them either bring up a bigger, more punishing, stay-at-home guy on D, or get a forward that plays a gritty. I know the Hawks play the finesse game (and that's how the league is moving), but I still think there is a place for the bigger fellas. The Hawks have an abundance (almost bubbling over) of smaller, quick talent- which is good, I'd just like to see some more physicality. The Hawks have a lot of pretty faces, let's get some ugly guys in here.

Re: David Runblad

Thing is, WHY is this the kid's 4th organization by age 21?
- John Jaeckel

All that nice footage on the wide Swedish rinks means a bit more time to slide and edge and throw the pass over.

I have to answer you John with this:

TEAM 1) He got traded out of the first organization because Blues chief scout Jarmo Kekalainen (now the Columbus GM) had a giant woody for Tarasenko and we all knew that Tarasenko WAS at top four player that draft year but was a Russian.
The blues were going to do their best to acquire the pick...not a knock just aggressive trading becasue they were convinced HE would come over and be a dominant NHL winger.

TEAM 2) You can argue that Ottawa probably felt they had similar styled defenders while Runblad was there...and the sophmore Karlsson was lights out crazy offensively took over....and Runblad was somewhat lost defensively with the team and partners when he did get ice time. BUT AGAIN...I can argue Runblad got traded to Phoenix more because Ottawa saw an opportunity to acquire a young disgruntled second overall pick who was centre and wanted $ and ICE. Ottawa wanted to seals the deal and his trade did.

TEAM 3) Runblad expected more opportunities in Phoenix and asked to be moved because he felt like the chances he got in six games were not in his best interest.

TEAM 4) Blackhawks and their pecking order were expected but don't think Runblad will sit quietly in the pressbox if not offered opportunities TO fail.
What everyone is ignoring is that the right handed shot was used a lot on the left side as happens more regularly in the Euro game so the point man and can move and his paddle is closer to the net.
I have a feeling they are no cards hidden from him.

He either wins a job after they send someone packing or he loses it to Clendnening Johns Dalbeck contingent.
I said it a long time ago, this guy was a dominant player in Europe.

I certainly am glad that so many comments and opinions have been fostered and are now chiseled in as fact by many, kinda the reverse of the "Tevo fan frantic-sy."

I hoping he busts loose ala the Russian kid in LA Slava Voynov....

Sure, Leddy for Nelson
- FourFeathers773

I thought it was Leddy for Martin?

I think Darth and Four have a key devoted to the above as I think I have seen it quoted before

Still saying:

Oduya on LTIR to start the season (1st 20-25 games)
Leddy moved up to 2nd pair
Leddy fares well > Oduya possibly shopped or one of a number of other suspects
Leddy does not fare well > Leddy gone, Oduya brought back off LTIR

Still do not believe Stanley (and Scottie) give up on a 23 yr old d-man with some of the skills Leddy has in the toolkit without 1st seeing him in a extended preview. Maybe they give him this shot and tell him same.

Still don't think needing the contract after this year is as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, still RFA status. And also don't believe the whole agent issue will drive the deal either. Cannot tell me an NHL club is going to walk away from a player just because their agent is one of the tougher ones to bargain with in the league. What are we, babies? If that was the case, someone needs to grow up and grow a pair.
- savvyone-1

This makes sense and I would love to see this.

Leddy is Bowman's biggest "steal" of a trade.

This makes sense and I would love to see this.

Leddy is Bowman's biggest "steal" of a trade.
- SteveRain

A 3rd round pick for Bollig gets my vote

Sure, Leddy for Nelson
- FourFeathers773

Nah

This makes sense and I would love to see this.

Leddy is Bowman's biggest "steal" of a trade.
- SteveRain

Johnny O turns 33 in October - presumably on the downside of his career.
Nick turns 24 next March - presumably just getting started, legs 10 years younger and seems to be reliable, hasn't missed very many games due to injury.

IMO Stanley would be pretty dumb to ship him off without knowing beyond any doubt he cannot fill a top 4 role. Next contract still fairly controlled because of RFA status.

Just like the stories we read about Lombardi holding Sutter's feet to the fire, pushing him hard to skate the young guys (Toffoli & Pearson) -- and it was getting those guys into the lineup, skating them and having them get experience and confidence (and Sutter having some confidence in them) that made the big difference in our series.

In that regard, Q needs more than a little push from Stanley.

Smaller ice sheet, more hitting. He's 19. I've already heard the argument today, "so was Kane" when he broke in, but Kane had played his whole life in NA, and the 2007 Hawks were not the 2014 Hawks. Not even close.
- John Jaeckel

....and to pile on that argument, TT is not Kane. Lol.

A 3rd round pick for Bollig gets my vote
- FourFeathers773

That pick turned into this kid....let's see how he develops:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/dr...pectdetail.htm?dpid=95863

A 3rd round pick for Bollig gets my vote
- FourFeathers773

Well played.

Im not a big leddy fan to begin with, but there is also the issue of Leddy needing a new contract, likely with a raise, in a years time

really no reason to hold on to him in my opinion

Yea, hes young and all, but A) we cant afford him B) im sure we dont WANT to pay him what he will want or need, because you dont want to pay him 3.5+ to be a third pair guy, and i know 95% of hawks fans arent comfortable with him being in the top 4 anytime soon
- FourFeathers773

This is a great list of reasons he should be shopped. The deflection in OT of game 7 of the WCF is not. The play should have been blow dead. The kid is 23... Voynov, Fowler, Krug - all have had similar moments.

Amazing, how a few here have decided that Leddy has no upside and the point cannot be challenged. JJ's point about the "deer in the headlights" look and his obvious distaste for contact are his biggest hurdles. I see those issues listed for a lot of young defensemen.

Johnny O turns 33 in October - presumably on the downside of his career.
Nick turns 24 next March - presumably just getting started, legs 10 years younger and seems to be reliable, hasn't missed very many games due to injury.

IMO Stanley would be pretty dumb to ship him off without knowing beyond any doubt he cannot fill a top 4 role. Next contract still fairly controlled because of RFA status.

Just like the stories we read about Lombardi holding Sutter's feet to the fire, pushing him hard to skate the young guys (Toffoli & Pearson) -- and it was getting those guys into the lineup, skating them and having them get experience and confidence (and Sutter having some confidence in them) that made the big difference in our series.

In that regard, Q needs more than a little push from Stanley.
- savvyone-1

Why not deal Rozy and keep both for this year? Vet d-men are in demand, would you mind a trade with Dallas for him?

Johnny O turns 33 in October - presumably on the downside of his career.
Nick turns 24 next March - presumably just getting started, legs 10 years younger and seems to be reliable, hasn't missed very many games due to injury.

IMO Stanley would be pretty dumb to ship him off without knowing beyond any doubt he cannot fill a top 4 role. Next contract still fairly controlled because of RFA status.

Just like the stories we read about Lombardi holding Sutter's feet to the fire, pushing him hard to skate the young guys (Toffoli & Pearson) -- and it was getting those guys into the lineup, skating them and having them get experience and confidence (and Sutter having some confidence in them) that made the big difference in our series.

In that regard, Q needs more than a little push from Stanley.
- savvyone-1

Age is definitely a consideration, Leddy is still very young and no doubt hasn't develop in the player he will ultimately be. That being said, what is Leddy's ceiling? If he can only be a slightly better 3rd pairing defenseman than you might as well keep Oduya for another couple of years and back-fill Leddy's role with a prospect.

I'm in favour of keeping Oduya over Leddy if Stan is forced to pick. But I understand the reasons to keep Leddy.

Johnny O turns 33 in October - presumably on the downside of his career.
Nick turns 24 next March - presumably just getting started, legs 10 years younger and seems to be reliable, hasn't missed very many games due to injury.

IMO Stanley would be pretty dumb to ship him off without knowing beyond any doubt he cannot fill a top 4 role. Next contract still fairly controlled because of RFA status.

Just like the stories we read about Lombardi holding Sutter's feet to the fire, pushing him hard to skate the young guys (Toffoli & Pearson) -- and it was getting those guys into the lineup, skating them and having them get experience and confidence (and Sutter having some confidence in them) that made the big difference in our series.

In that regard, Q needs more than a little push from Stanley.
- savvyone-1

I just don't think Q and his staff have any faith in Leddy to make the key decision in a playoff game with a heavy fore check. You could argue the sweedes are just as important to the Hawks success as 2&7. Now....to play devil's advocate the Hawks did win a cup with Brian Campbell playing with Hammer, and god knows Campbell is not a great defensive defenseman most nights.

I don't disagree with what you are saying....I think the ONLY thing that could end to Oduya going before Leddy is IF Oduya won't take a team friendly deal and then Bowman really has no choice but to deal him OR go all in and knowing you may lose him for nothing. And I don't count some crap 5th round pick for his rights in June as anything other then what it is.

Hgue decision for Bowman.

Why not deal Rozy and keep both for this year? Vet d-men are in demand, would you mind a trade with Dallas for him?
- Cup-Bearer

I think that is what most people mean when they talk about trading Leddy, Oduya or any other big contract. Make a small move now to become cap compliant and deal with the rest once we know the 15/16 cap.

Why not deal Rozy and keep both for this year? Vet d-men are in demand, would you mind a trade with Dallas for him?
- Cup-Bearer

I would. Dallas scares the bejebus out of me. They need D. They have plenty of O and a goalie who can win games by himself.

No need to help a divisional opponent. Rozsival is very tough to play against....just go back and watch that series vs Phoenix we lost in.

I would. Dallas scares the bejebus out of me. They need D. They have plenty of O and a goalie who can win games by himself.

No need to help a divisional opponent. Rozsival is very tough to play against....just go back and watch that series vs Phoenix we lost in.
- SteveRain

If we gotta lose a piece I choose Rozy, this year is just another year closer to Zeus slow

I thought it was Leddy for Martin?
- DarthKane

And a 2nd round pick..

Age is definitely a consideration, Leddy is still very young and no doubt hasn't develop in the player he will ultimately be. That being said, what is Leddy's ceiling? If he can only be a slightly better 3rd pairing defenseman than you might as well keep Oduya for another couple of years and back-fill Leddy's role with a prospect.

I'm in favour of keeping Oduya over Leddy if Stan is forced to pick. But I understand the reasons to keep Leddy.
- DarthKane

I get what Savvyone is saying. People will point to playing with Keith back a few years ago as Leddy's "chance". Well...sorry. Not buying it.

Leddy needs s a stationary D man to cover his butt. Keith has that for the most part in Seabrook who takes the Keith grenade passes and converts those to zone exits.

Leddy with hammer would be a fair chance for Leddy to prove himself, but again....unless they find a taker for somebody else outside of Oduya, leddy or Sharp, I just don't see Leddy being in the lineup opening night.