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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
If the Stars were to target Philly's D, who would they most covet (other then Coburn)? Can you see a trade here?
- coffee junkie

covet and Philly D doesnt match
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
Five players who need to have big seasons this year for the Flyers to succeed, other than Giroux and Mason which are just obvious.

1. Braydon Coburn
The man with nose is going to have to be at his best for the Flyers to succeed this year. Coburn will assuredly lead the Flyers D corps in ice time and will see the hard minutes against top lines and on the PK. He needs to be consistent for this team to go anywhere.

2. Jake Voracek
He's not a kid anymore, so it's time to step up and become the star player that we all know he can be. I'd like to see 30 goals and 70 points, and I think he has the talent to do it.

3. Andrew MacDonald
AMac will need to step up and play some tougher minutes with Timonen out of the lineup. If he falters, they will be in trouble as neither Streit or MDZ is going to help much on the PK or in defending top lines.

4. Brayden Schenn
Another guy who needs to take the next step in his development. Anything short of 25 goals and 50 points would be a disappointment. For his sake, they need to pick a position for him right from the start of camp and leave him there. It does him no favors to be constantly moved back and forth from center to wing.

5. Luke Schenn
Luke needs to come into camp in the best shape of his life and ready to play some hard minutes. In order for this club to succeed, he will need to be a mainstay on the PK.

- BiggE



#1 scares me the most... thanks PSG. If he stinks again, 2-5 could all come about and they could still be toast.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
#1 scares me the most... thanks PSG. If he stinks again, 2-5 could all come about and they could still be toast.
- Tomahawk


Sorry. Just trying to keep it real
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Sorry. Just trying to keep it real
- PhillySportsGuy


Go keep it real someplace else.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Go keep it real someplace else.
- Tomahawk

You tell em!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 25 @ 1:14 PM ET
covet and Philly D doesnt match
- vejim


I'm sure they're dying to gift wrap all those young D they've painstakingly collected for one of our many underpaid overachievers.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
No
- JoeRussomanno

oh
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'm sure they're dying to gift wrap all those young D they've painstakingly collected for one of our many underpaid overachievers.
- Tomahawk

I think they want the vets...

So they are going to trade their cheaper, younger, less injured version of Nik Grossmann for the genuine real article

Makes sense to me!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
If the Stars were to target Philly's D, who would they most covet (other then Coburn)? Can you see a trade here?
- coffee junkie


They need to add size and toughness. Their blueline is a bit undersized and lacking in physicality -- they got manhandled at times by Anaheim in the playoffs. They've already got some offensive-minded guys (Goligoski, the declining Gonchar) and speed and puck movement with a guy like Trevor Daley. But other than Brenden Dillon, they don't have much in the way of physicality and shutdown-D potential.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
They need to add size and toughness. Their blueline is a bit undersized and lacking in physicality -- they got manhandled at times by Anaheim in the playoffs. They've already got some offensive-minded guys (Goligoski, the declining Gonchar) and speed and puck movement with a guy like Trevor Daley. But other than Brenden Dillon, they don't have much in the way of physicality and shutdown-D potential.
- bmeltzer


It'd be wonderful if Luke Schenn was worth a kid like Jason Dickinson
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 1:56 PM ET
Per Bob Rotruck, Phantoms sign Brett Hextall
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 25 @ 1:56 PM ET
#1 scares me the most... thanks PSG. If he stinks again, 2-5 could all come about and they could still be toast.
- Tomahawk


Very true, Coburn needs to play very well
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Per Bob Rotruck, Phantoms sign Brett Hextall
- Jsaquella


That's cute.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 25 @ 2:02 PM ET
That's cute.
- Streit2ThePoint


They continue to stockpile 4th line energy guys on the Phantoms
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
Will Couts get a nomination for the Selke this year?

There is a lot of competition.

- Marc D


Not unless he scores 60+ points.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
They need to add size and toughness. Their blueline is a bit undersized and lacking in physicality -- they got manhandled at times by Anaheim in the playoffs. They've already got some offensive-minded guys (Goligoski, the declining Gonchar) and speed and puck movement with a guy like Trevor Daley. But other than Brenden Dillon, they don't have much in the way of physicality and shutdown-D potential.
- bmeltzer

The Duck forwards are humongous big. I thoroughly enjoyed that series, right up to the very end when the Stars lost.
You were right about the little Benn, he is not so great.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Per Bob Rotruck, Phantoms sign Brett Hextall
- Jsaquella


nepo-tism.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
JVR on twitter
"Tell Jake Gardiner I found his name on this coke"

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Aug 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
nepo-tism.
- hammarby31


Now our pick of Travis Sanheim who is also related to Hextall seems less coincidental
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
Now our pick of Travis Sanheim who is also related to Hextall seems less coincidental
- aflyerpower8


expect the immediate release of nick lukko.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
They need to add size and toughness. Their blueline is a bit undersized and lacking in physicality -- they got manhandled at times by Anaheim in the playoffs. They've already got some offensive-minded guys (Goligoski, the declining Gonchar) and speed and puck movement with a guy like Trevor Daley. But other than Brenden Dillon, they don't have much in the way of physicality and shutdown-D potential.
- bmeltzer


Would they take back Grossmann?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Aug 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
Five players who need to have big seasons this year for the Flyers to succeed, other than Giroux and Mason which are just obvious.

1. Braydon Coburn
The man with nose is going to have to be at his best for the Flyers to succeed this year. Coburn will assuredly lead the Flyers D corps in ice time and will see the hard minutes against top lines and on the PK. He needs to be consistent for this team to go anywhere.

2. Jake Voracek
He's not a kid anymore, so it's time to step up and become the star player that we all know he can be. I'd like to see 30 goals and 70 points, and I think he has the talent to do it.

3. Andrew MacDonald
AMac will need to step up and play some tougher minutes with Timonen out of the lineup. If he falters, they will be in trouble as neither Streit or MDZ is going to help much on the PK or in defending top lines.

4. Brayden Schenn
Another guy who needs to take the next step in his development. Anything short of 25 goals and 50 points would be a disappointment. For his sake, they need to pick a position for him right from the start of camp and leave him there. It does him no favors to be constantly moved back and forth from center to wing.

5. Luke Schenn
Luke needs to come into camp in the best shape of his life and ready to play some hard minutes. In order for this club to succeed, he will need to be a mainstay on the PK.

- BiggE



Really good list You probably could have the entire D as a whole on that list.

I would add Raffl not so much as a make or break guy to their season, but rather to see what this kid really brings to the table.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
Per Bob Rotruck, Phantoms sign Brett Hextall
- Jsaquella




(was so inevitable)
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 25 @ 3:48 PM ET
They need to add size and toughness. Their blueline is a bit undersized and lacking in physicality -- they got manhandled at times by Anaheim in the playoffs. They've already got some offensive-minded guys (Goligoski, the declining Gonchar) and speed and puck movement with a guy like Trevor Daley. But other than Brenden Dillon, they don't have much in the way of physicality and shutdown-D potential.
- bmeltzer


You're projecting that Oleksiak's going to get sent down again? Just him + Nemeth could fundamentally alter the complexion of that group.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 25 @ 3:49 PM ET
expect the immediate release of nick lukko.
- hammarby31


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