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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Your outlook could be a little positive for some .


- Maximum Signal

idk...I tried keep it factual...like all of those mentioned were/are in leadership roles and that they're perceived as high-character guys...

what's cool about that group is that they have a lot of skill as well
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Aug 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
But as a dman I guess it woukd be more like crosby, for toews and a stud dman.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
Scouting sites made Yakupov come off as the next ovechkin. Eichel's great and all but he I don't see him being on that level. I see him as a first liner but no in that "future top 10 nhler" group.
- Sabresfan-365


with mcdavid and eichel, might be the difference--and please, this is only for comparison--between the attributes of gretzky and messier
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
idk...I tried keep it factual...like all of those mentioned were/are in leadership roles and that they're perceived as high-character guys...

what's cool about that group is that they have a lot of skill as well

- Michael Pachla



The fact that these guys have played at the highest level, with leadership roles and scoring big goals, is impressive. When players like McDavid say that they look up to Reinhart it's confirmation that he is ideal for us. Now it's time to see it for ourselves at this stage.

When Eichel talks about Compher, it's assuring that we have another guy to count on in the room. Then you "throw in" Risto, Zads, Baptiste, McCabe and Pysyk and we have the looks of a core that teams would dream about.

If you look at the core on some of these upper level teams, it's not as deep. It's a handful of players.

Ducks: Getzlaf/Perry/Fowler
Kings: Kopitar/Brown/Doughty/Carter/Richards - you can add a few like Greene, Martinez
Chicago: Kane/Toews/Seabrook/Keith/Hossa/Sharp

These guys are in the upper levels of their career and our young core is coming in with high levels of maturity and pressure situations. I cannot wait for our future. 2016 on up looks BRIGHT!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
The fact that these guys have played at the highest level, with leadership roles and scoring big goals, is impressive. When players like McDavid say that they look up to Reinhart it's confirmation that he is ideal for us. Now it's time to see it for ourselves at this stage.

When Eichel talks about Compher, it's assuring that we have another guy to count on in the room. Then you "throw in" Risto, Zads, Baptiste, McCabe and Pysyk and we have the looks of a core that teams would dream about.

If you look at the core on some of these upper level teams, it's not as deep. It's a handful of players.

Ducks: Getzlaf/Perry/Fowler
Kings: Kopitar/Brown/Doughty/Carter/Richards - you can add a few like Greene, Martinez
Chicago: Kane/Toews/Seabrook/Keith/Hossa/Sharp

These guys are in the upper levels of their career and our young core is coming in with high levels of maturity and pressure situations. I cannot wait for our future. 2016 on up looks BRIGHT!

- thatsapickle


well said
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
Land both???? A little greedy...
- whipper334



That's the dream though...

We literally have so many prospects projected to be top6 players, that none of us are even able to project what our lineup is gonna look like in 4yrs

Guys like Foligno could end up as 4th liners!
Even young 20goal scorers like Hodgson & Ennis might not have a place on the team

Ya, this season is still gonna suck, and probably next year too...
But the future does look pretty bright here in Buffalo
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Aug 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
I would make the trade but I doubt the team picking 1st would.

It would be like trading Tavares for Ryan and Turris. They're both good players but you know you'd take Tavares over them.

- Sabresfan-365


I'd take Turris & Ryan over Tavares.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
well said
- Michael Pachla



Thank you, good sir!

Just trying to keep up with the high level thoughts that you bring here!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
What if:

We end up getting the 2nd and 3rd overall pick the of the draft? Would you trade the two picks to get first overall and would the team with the first do it?

- gibby111



I wouldn't trade 2 & 3 for #1
Hannifin is being touted as a stud defenseman, or if we want another forward there's guys like Barzal & Strome
Unless McDavid nets like 80goals this year, I don't think the gap is that big between him & Eichel to also give up another future "all-star" type talent

I do think whoever has #1 would trade it for 2 + another pick in the top5 though
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
I wouldn't trade 2 & 3 for #1
Hannifin is being touted as a stud defenseman, or if we want another forward there's guys like Barzal & Strome
Unless McDavid nets like 80goals this year, I don't think the gap is that big between him & Eichel to also give up another future "all-star" type talent

I do think whoever has #1 would trade it for 2 + another pick in the top5 though

- jdfitz77



It is unlikely that whomever is picking #1 would trade for #2 and #3. I know I wouldn't do that, nor would I want to trade both picks to move up. I think that in the scenario where we have #2 and #3 we will get great players that will fit in with what we already have.

Does Hannifin make Myers expendable? Sorry, couldn't resist.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Depends on the draft year. In most years I would trade the number 1 pick for the 2nd and 3rd overall.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
Depends on the draft year. In most years I would trade the number 1 pick for the 2nd and 3rd overall.
- joshs



I think this year, it would be a tough call. It would really depend on how Armia, Grigorenko and the other guys in Rochester are progressing. Would it be worth trading McDavid for Eichel and Strome/Barzal (sp)/Hannafin/the other highly touted Euro Defenseman?

Possibly if Reinhart/Grigorenko are proving to be a #1-2 centers. Otherwise it's hard to pass up the "generational" talent.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
I'd take Turris & Ryan over Tavares.
- Erik6Karlsson5



That's because you're a sens fan
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
I think this year, it would be a tough call. It would really depend on how Armia, Grigorenko and the other guys in Rochester are progressing. Would it be worth trading McDavid for Eichel and Strome/Barzal (sp)/Hannafin/the other highly touted Euro Defenseman?

Possibly if Reinhart/Grigorenko are proving to be a #1-2 centers. Otherwise it's hard to pass up the "generational" talent.

- thatsapickle


Kylington
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 23 @ 4:55 PM ET
This is a very negative adjective football game so far.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 23 @ 5:13 PM ET
I think this year, it would be a tough call. It would really depend on how Armia, Grigorenko and the other guys in Rochester are progressing. Would it be worth trading McDavid for Eichel and Strome/Barzal (sp)/Hannafin/the other highly touted Euro Defenseman?

Possibly if Reinhart/Grigorenko are proving to be a #1-2 centers. Otherwise it's hard to pass up the "generational" talent.

- thatsapickle


It is, but eichle is supposed to be a close 2nd. U are right for buffalo it definitely should be quality over quantity but from what I've read about this years draft class, having the 2nd and 3rd pick might be better than #1 overall
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Aug 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
This is a very negative adjective football game so far.
- buffalofan19

I wasn't expecting anything great to be honest.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
Enroth and Sekera for Parise...
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Erik James Manuel: Franchise Quarterback
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Aug 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
I would make the trade but I doubt the team picking 1st would.

It would be like trading Tavares for Ryan and Turris. They're both good players but you know you'd take Tavares over them.

- Sabresfan-365


Absoultly not. Thats kinda like saying. Woudl you rather have Crosby or Getzalf and Perry. I'd take Getzlaf and Perry. That's how good the 2nd overall and 3rd overall picks could be in this draft.
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Aug 23 @ 5:50 PM ET
Erik James Manuel: Franchise Quarterback
- buffalofan19

Buffalo Bills: prolific offense
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 23 @ 6:28 PM ET
Buffalo Bills: prolific offense
- zdp1189



At least he can make plays against a 2nd string defense.
Therat36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.27.2006

Aug 23 @ 6:29 PM ET
After today I can no longer make excuses for ej or Hackett ...
Therat36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.27.2006

Aug 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
Erik James Manuel: Franchise Quarterback
- buffalofan19

Erik Rodriguez "EJ" Manuel, Jr.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 23 @ 7:15 PM ET
Erik Rodriguez "EJ" Manuel, Jr.
- Therat36


EJ freaking completely blows....the sooner they give up on bin the better..he is like a long line of other check down QBs. D's will drop 7 and let him have the 3 and 4 yard passes. His throws are very inaccurate when he does go past ten yards.
Bad bad bad.
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