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HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 22 @ 11:38 PM ET
The (frank) is wrong with you people




- robin_steele264

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 22 @ 11:41 PM ET
The (frank) is wrong with you people




- robin_steele264


you ask that question now?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 22 @ 11:58 PM ET

- HouseArrest187

mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
So any Oiler news?
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 23 @ 12:01 AM ET
So any Oiler news?
- mighty13duck





Rebuild over.


Contenders now.


Trade youth for old vets.


mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 23 @ 12:03 AM ET
Rebuild over.


Contenders now.


Trade youth for old vets.

- robin_steele264

I said Oilers not Isles
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 23 @ 12:03 AM ET
Rebuild over.


Contenders now.


Trade youth for old vets.

- robin_steele264


Your not on the Leafs thread still....
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 23 @ 12:12 AM ET
So any Oiler news?
- mighty13duck


Wang just purchased the Oilers.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 23 @ 12:15 AM ET
Your not on the Leafs thread still....
- Iggysbff





Trade Phanoof for #1 center too



Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 23 @ 12:52 AM ET
So any Oiler news?
- mighty13duck


Any paige avi's yet
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 23 @ 12:53 AM ET
Any paige avi's yet
- Oilers4Life14


Christy Hemme
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 23 @ 12:59 AM ET
Christy Hemme
- laughs2907


Tilf

OH WAIT (frank) YOU GUYS I CAN!!!
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
I know jarmo said he'd match any offer sheet for Johansen but what if a team did an OS like:

5M for year 1

8.25 for year 2

Cap hit is 6.625 and only give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd

Cbj likely doesn't worry as it's short term and only a bit high on cap hit, plus the compensation is below what they'd want. I wonder if the 8.25 figure worries him and creeps some doubt in his mind. Doesn't the next offer have to then be 8.25 for Johansen if they match? Isn't like cgy and ROR?

Not sure I understand the qualifying offers fully
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
I know jarmo said he'd match any offer sheet for Johansen but what if a team did an OS like:

5M for year 1

8.25 for year 2

Cap hit is 6.625 and only give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd

Cbj likely doesn't worry as it's short term and only a bit high on cap hit, plus the compensation is below what they'd want. I wonder if the 8.25 figure worries him and creeps some doubt in his mind. Doesn't the next offer have to then be 8.25 for Johansen if they match? Isn't like cgy and ROR?

Not sure I understand the qualifying offers fully

- ystoil


Are you Jay Feaster???

RJ should be signing a bridge. And yes if you give him 8.25 then his qualifying offer has to be at least that. BJ's would then likely do the same as Colorado did with ROR and take him to team elected Arbitration.

RJ should just shut up and sign a 2 yr 9 mill deal and earn his next contract.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
Are you Jay Feaster???

RJ should be signing a bridge. And yes if you give him 8.25 then his qualifying offer has to be at least that. BJ's would then likely do the same as Colorado did with ROR and take him to team elected Arbitration.

RJ should just shut up and sign a 2 yr 9 mill deal and earn his next contract.

- Iggysbff


They've said they are willing to let this go into training camp too and he's willing to miss it.

I think 2 year 10 or 11 mill is fair.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
I know jarmo said he'd match any offer sheet for Johansen but what if a team did an OS like:

5M for year 1

8.25 for year 2

Cap hit is 6.625 and only give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd

Cbj likely doesn't worry as it's short term and only a bit high on cap hit, plus the compensation is below what they'd want. I wonder if the 8.25 figure worries him and creeps some doubt in his mind. Doesn't the next offer have to then be 8.25 for Johansen if they match? Isn't like cgy and ROR?

Not sure I understand the qualifying offers fully

- ystoil


ROR signed an offer sheet that was
3.5M for year 1
6.5M for year 2
So the QO had to be 6.5M or higher, but in arbitration I think it can go as low as like 85% or something of the QO, which in ROR's case was like 5.5 but they settled at 6. I think if you signed RJ to that deal, the best you'd get out of arbitration would be about 7M and who knows how high the cap/arbitration settlements'll be 3 years from now. Sub just got 9M
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
I know jarmo said he'd match any offer sheet for Johansen but what if a team did an OS like:

5M for year 1

8.25 for year 2

Cap hit is 6.625 and only give up a 1st 2nd and 3rd

Cbj likely doesn't worry as it's short term and only a bit high on cap hit, plus the compensation is below what they'd want. I wonder if the 8.25 figure worries him and creeps some doubt in his mind. Doesn't the next offer have to then be 8.25 for Johansen if they match? Isn't like cgy and ROR?

Not sure I understand the qualifying offers fully

- ystoil


You would be doing the Jackets a favour since it is reported he was poking bw 6-7m. Cant see him signing an offer sheet that low at 5m.

Your best option is to trade for him and sign him if you really want to add him to the Oilers.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
ROR signed an offer sheet that was
3.5M for year 1
6.5M for year 2
So the QO had to be 6.5M or higher, but in arbitration I think it can go as low as like 85% or something of the QO, which in ROR's case was like 5.5 but they settled at 6. I think if you signed RJ to that deal, the best you'd get out of arbitration would be about 7M and who knows how high the cap/arbitration settlements'll be 3 years from now. Sub just got 9M

- TheNugeIsHuge


RJ had one good year. He needs to take a bridge deal. Subban did and it paid off. I dont think he is quite worth the risk of a long term deal yet. If it was in the same range as Hall, Duchene, Nuge etc then just send sign him to 8 years 50 mill.

Otherwise prove yourself.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
RJ had one good year. He needs to take a bridge deal. Subban did and it paid off. I dont think he is quite worth the risk of a long term deal yet. If it was in the same range as Hall, Duchene, Nuge etc then just send sign him to 8 years 50 mill.

Otherwise prove yourself.

- Iggysbff


Tough call.

Cbj signs him to that deal now, they save cap long term but they canto guarantee he's worth it. I think he is. Playing it safe now with the bridge is going to cost them later especially if the cap goes up.

For instance, halls deal at the time was a bit high to some but is now a bargain deal.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 23 @ 12:05 PM ET
So Marincin at 200 lbs...

Only put on 5 lbs this summer.

The dude needs to put on at least another 15.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
So Marincin at 200 lbs...

Only put on 5 lbs this summer.

The dude needs to put on at least another 15.

- Iggysbff


No he was listed at 188 so 12 pounds
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
Yeti you bastard.... what was wrong with that.....
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
No he was listed at 188 so 12 pounds
- ystoil


I think the guy that asked him misinterpreted. I'm thinking he gained 5kg
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
I think the guy that asked him misinterpreted. I'm thinking he gained 5kg
- TheNugeIsHuge


Likely. Euros always use kg
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Likely. Euros always use kg
- ystoil


If the team told him to really focus on gaining weight all summer I doubt he'd have only gained 5lbs. You can gain that in 20 hours on the Byfuglien diet
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