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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 21 @ 9:43 PM ET
It is. The guy bled teal for years and they decided after the team feel short to make changes. It's not the best way to go about it, but the NMC's make it difficult.

I see both sides. Feel it sucks for both. Probably a bit more for Jumbo & Marleau

- Jsaquella


This got me thinking about weird trivia. I wonder which draft has the highest #1 and #2 scoring totals. It struck that those two have scored a lot of points.


Im guessing Mario and Muller.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 21 @ 10:14 PM ET
This got me thinking about weird trivia. I wonder which draft has the highest #1 and #2 scoring totals. It struck that those two have scored a lot of points.


Im guessing Mario and Muller.

- MBFlyerfan

In the Entry draft era they are, but by the slimmest of margins. They beat out Turgeon and Shanahan by 1 point. The highest scoring 1-2 tandem are from the 71 draft. Lafleur and Dionne. They had a combined 3,124 points.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 21 @ 10:34 PM ET
In the Entry draft era they are, but by the slimmest of margins. They beat out Turgeon and Shanahan by 1 point. The highest scoring 1-2 tandem are from the 71 draft. Lafleur and Dionne. They had a combined 3,124 points.
- tomburton99



Wow
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 21 @ 11:11 PM ET
if anyone thought the ice challenge was stupid youtube the fire challenge
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 22 @ 12:27 AM ET
Paul Bissonette 'controller' tee versus Pavel Datsyuk 'controller' tee:




Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
if anyone thought the ice challenge was stupid youtube the fire challenge
- 2Real


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 22 @ 12:40 AM ET
In the Entry draft era they are, but by the slimmest of margins. They beat out Turgeon and Shanahan by 1 point. The highest scoring 1-2 tandem are from the 71 draft. Lafleur and Dionne. They had a combined 3,124 points.
- tomburton99


Holy poop, great hustle by you.

And you're a Rangers fan? How did that happen? Did your parents feed you paint chips?

/I keed, I keed
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:29 AM ET

- Pixote Andolini

no really look up the fire challenge people get dumber it involves pouring lighter fluid on your body and trying to put out the fire asap
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 22 @ 2:47 AM ET
Can anyone explain to me the logic or idea behind what the Sharks are doing with Thornton and Marleau?

I can't find any rational idea why they would do this.

- Marc D

Speaking only from my point of view, I think the Sharks are long over due for a serious change up. Not in leadership but make up. If I'm Thornton and Marleau (special Marleau) I'd want out. As Captains, how do these players get their deserved respect in the dressing room if they don't even have the respect of their coaches and management. From the Sharks point of view, these quality but expensive players have been unable to get over the hump in the playoffs after years of being a dominant regular season team. The player I probably feel most for is Joe Pavelski. Pavelski is every bit the talent Eric Staal, Ryan Getzlaf or Zach Parise is being drafted out of 2003, yet he has to play behind these clowns. If the Sharks trade away Thornton and Marleau maybe a year or two earlier ( at least one) for young talent, maybe they keep up with the Hawks and Kings in the playoffs. Maybe I'm out of line but although Thornton is still one of the great passers in the league, the guy is only good for 10 or 15 goals a season now. He looks done to me by post season. The Sharks also have to consider how they bring along Logan Couture. The Sharks should be about Joe Pavelski and Logan Couture now.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 22 @ 3:19 AM ET
Speaking only from my point of view, I think the Sharks are long over due for a serious change up. Not in leadership but make up. If I'm Thornton and Marleau (special Marleau) I'd want out. As Captains, how do these players get their deserved respect in the dressing room if they don't even have the respect of their coaches and management. From the Sharks point of view, these quality but expensive players have been unable to get over the hump in the playoffs after years of being a dominant regular season team. The player I probably feel most for is Joe Pavelski. Pavelski is every bit the talent Eric Staal, Ryan Getzlaf or Zach Parise is being drafted out of 2003, yet he has to play behind these clowns. If the Sharks trade away Thornton and Marleau maybe a year or two earlier ( at least one) for young talent, maybe they keep up with the Hawks and Kings in the playoffs. Maybe I'm out of line but although Thornton is still one of the great passers in the league, the guy is only good for 10 or 15 goals a season now. He looks done to me by post season. The Sharks also have to consider how they bring along Logan Couture. The Sharks should be about Joe Pavelski and Logan Couture now.
- SuperSchennBros

Pavelski isn't young. The fans love Thornton and Marleau and would revolt if they were let go.

Joe Thornton was just as good as Toews in the playoffs
mark_laforest
Location: i filled the bowl 3 times yesterday. i feel hollow in the abdomen.
Joined: 01.30.2011

Aug 22 @ 4:08 AM ET
Yeah I'm with you here. If they wanna "send a message" I can think of 9,482 other ways to do it
- Giroux_Is_God

list them
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 22 @ 8:52 AM ET
The Sharks had a great team last year and got unfortunate goaltending in the playoffs.

Their reaction to perceived "choking" by Thornton is priceless.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 22 @ 8:58 AM ET
list them
- mark_laforest


lol
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 22 @ 9:11 AM ET
The Sharks had a great team last year and got unfortunate goaltending in the playoffs.

Their reaction to perceived "choking" by Thornton is priceless.

- bradleyc4

Aside from his first playoff experience at age 18, and his last playoff birth with Boston (0 points in 13 games between the two)... he has been a hell of a playoff performer..

100 points in 119 games...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 22 @ 9:15 AM ET
The Sharks had a great team last year and got unfortunate goaltending in the playoffs.

Their reaction to perceived "choking" by Thornton is priceless.

- bradleyc4


They are looking at the whole body of his team success and ignoring that it's rarely been him who has come up short. They're trying to rebuild on the fly and they have gone from trying to move him to trying to make him demand out.

Bad situation for both sides.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
They are looking at the whole body of his team success and ignoring that it's rarely been him who has come up short. They're trying to rebuild on the fly and they have gone from trying to move him to trying to make him demand out.

Bad situation for both sides.

- Jsaquella


I'd take the dish master on the Flyers
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 22 @ 9:59 AM ET
1 month until preseason
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 22 @ 10:16 AM ET

This nerd watches more hockey than you (mind blown):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459985
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 22 @ 10:19 AM ET
This nerd watches more hockey than you (mind blown):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459985

- Tomahawk


Another misuse of eyeballs.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 22 @ 10:22 AM ET
They are looking at the whole body of his team success and ignoring that it's rarely been him who has come up short. They're trying to rebuild on the fly and they have gone from trying to move him to trying to make him demand out.

Bad situation for both sides.

- Jsaquella

I think their GM is really solid.
Look at the great move trading away Doug Murray. They got better by subtraction.
Rarely does he over pay guys.

But this is really a fiasco.
I think he decided that Thornton and maybe Marleau must go, but the players don't want to cooperate. I bet EDM would take either one and SJ would get a nice return, but the NTC puts the players in the driver's seat.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 22 @ 10:25 AM ET
This nerd watches more hockey than you (mind blown):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459985

- Tomahawk



"Meet Corey Sznajder"

He is the long lost Eastern European cousin of the Devil's goalie.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 22 @ 10:39 AM ET
This nerd watches more hockey than you (mind blown):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459985

- Tomahawk


He'll be hired as an assistant GM somewhere soon.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
He'll be hired as an assistant GM somewhere soon.
- Streit2ThePoint


He's not qualified. But teams should be paying for his zone entry information, and perhaps bringing him on board in an analytics department.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
This nerd watches more hockey than you (mind blown):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459985

- Tomahawk


Beat it, Nerd boy, with your propeller hat and your abacus!

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
At this point, I'm so dying for the season to start, I looked up when the preseason games start.

The freaking preseason games.
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