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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:30 PM ET

- whipper334

Why would a team trade an already proven elite defenseman who is a top 10 defender in the league for an unproven 1st round pick? The 1st rounder would be lucky to have a ceiling as high as McDonagh's let alone come close to reaching it.

PLUS Kreider included in that deal?

Then again, that same person said he wouldn't essentially trade a 1st round pick for Drew Doughty or Nail Yakupov for Corey Perry.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Why would a team trade an already proven elite defenseman who is a top 10 defender in the league for an unproven 1st round pick? The 1st rounder would be lucky to have a ceiling as high as McDonagh's let alone come close to reaching it.

PLUS Kreider included in that deal?

Then again, that same person said he wouldn't essentially trade a 1st round pick for Drew Doughty or Nail Yakupov for Corey Perry.

- rangerdanger94



They say McDavid is the next great hockey player...not quite Sid, but better than Mackinnin, Hall, Tavares or Stamkos....if all this is true then sorry, McDonough is a small price to pay.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:43 PM ET
They say McDavid is the next great hockey player...not quite Sid, but better than Mackinnin, Hall, Tavares or Stamkos....if all this is true then sorry, McDonough is a small price to pay.
- Jeropotato

True, but there's no guarantee that your pick will be 1st overall. I admit I misread the original post I quoted that you were talking about if it was a 1st overall.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 20 @ 9:47 PM ET
True, but there's no guarantee that your pick will be 1st overall. I admit I misread the original post I quoted that you were talking about if it was a 1st overall.
- rangerdanger94


It's all good....no way would I trade McDonough for the 3rd overall even, but those 2 players a supposed to be special, the kind you shape your team around.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:49 PM ET
It's all good....no way would I trade McDonough for the 3rd overall even, but those 2 players a supposed to be special, the kind you shape your team around.
- Jeropotato

For sure. At the same time, I really don't know if the Rangers do it. From a value standpoint, obviously it makes some sense. But when looking at what the Rangers are trying to do, their window is the next 2 years with MSL and Dan Boyle close to retiring and Lunqvist having only a few more years before he starts to decline.

Would it make sense for them to trade 2 in-their-prime players for a prospect?

Tough call if that deal was on the table for Sather...imagine if he went through with it and McDavid turned out to be a bust? Or imagine Sather passes on the deal and then 10 years from now after MSL, Dan Boyle, and Hank are all retired, McDavid is turning 28 and is the hands-down best player in the league...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
How does the new draft selection work?
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Aug 20 @ 9:58 PM ET
How does the new draft selection work?
- Yeti1181

Wtf is wrong with this site???
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:08 PM ET
How does the new draft selection work?
- Yeti1181


Same next year except the % chances change. only 20% chance for 30th to get 1st overall.

In 2016 all top 3 picks will be picked by lotto.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:14 PM ET
Wtf is wrong with this site???
- abware

No idea
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:20 PM ET
Same next year except the % chances change. only 20% chance for 30th to get 1st overall.

In 2016 all top 3 picks will be picked by lotto.

- Iggysbff

Oh got ya
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 20 @ 10:46 PM ET
Top 10 protected 1st + klefbom + prospect for Thornton now that he's stripped of the C

Too much? Not enough?

Although he'd old I don't think he'd come cheap assuming he waives.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Wtf is wrong with this site???
- abware


Yeti is a female dog?

Kidding yeti ur awesome
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
Top 10 protected 1st + klefbom + prospect for Thornton now that he's stripped of the C

Too much? Not enough?

Although he'd old I don't think he'd come cheap assuming he waives.

- ystoil


What level of prospect do you think ? maybe a guy like moroz?
The sharks would probably want a roster player instead of a prospect.
Petry, first and klefbom? Is that to much?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 21 @ 12:02 AM ET
Top 10 protected 1st + klefbom + prospect for Thornton now that he's stripped of the C

Too much? Not enough?

Although he'd old I don't think he'd come cheap assuming he waives.

- ystoil


He isnt waiving. This is just window dressing. They'll still be a dominant team this season. LA was (frank)ing lucky to take them out.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:25 AM ET
How on god's green earth is Tambo to blame? Time to shine the light of failure where it belongs...... KLowe...... No?
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:31 AM ET
I wouldn't call it an Oiler Rule. Everybody forgets about Pittsburgh tanking also for so many seasons, just never winning to move up one season (like Edm did).

2003 #1 - Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 #2 - Evgeni Malkin
2005 #1 - Sidney Crosby

People keep forgetting about that because it actually worked for that team. But you also had a player that was spoken about since he was 11yrs old as being the next great one (Crosby). Hockey since then has changed so much on a scope and with all the talent without winning to potential US markets. You think the NHL is not going to step in? They will do whatever it takes to try and get more stars down south as the market north of the border will never die.

- iAvery



Jebus...... Are you guys serious? Crosby was won based on pure luck! It was a league wide draft that Pittsburgh won after the lockout season! That pick as far as I am concerned cannot and does not count a s a team "tanking" for picks!
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:33 AM ET
How on god's green earth is Tambo to blame? Time to shine the light of failure where it belongs...... KLowe...... No?
- undisputed_8821


No. K-Lowe fixed so much organational issues in the last 4 years while Tambo kept collecting 1st overall picks and little else. The Anti-Lowe talk is shallow and stupid. not to mention pointless seeing as how it's MacTavish's team.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 21 @ 12:34 AM ET
Jebus...... Are you guys serious? Crosby was won based on pure luck! It was a league wide draft that Pittsburgh won after the lockout season! That pick as far as I am concerned cannot and does not count a s a team "tanking" for picks!

- undisputed_8821


Yeah this post and your previous one show once again your complete and utter lack of understanding of hockey.

Go back to puckrant.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:40 AM ET
Yeah this post and your previous one show once again your complete and utter lack of understanding of hockey.
- Iggysbff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NHL_Entry_Draft


How well have the Oilers done since Tambo has left? Are you guys really that delusional? Come on be a bit realistic please!!
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:41 AM ET
Yeah this post and your previous one show once again your complete and utter lack of understanding of hockey.

Go back to puckrant.

- Iggysbff

But hey don't let facts and truths get in the way of your arguments!!
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:47 AM ET
No. K-Lowe fixed so much organational issues in the last 4 years while Tambo kept collecting 1st overall picks and little else. The Anti-Lowe talk is shallow and stupid. not to mention pointless seeing as how it's MacTavish's team.
- Jeropotato

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Lowe#Post_playing_career


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...f_Edmonton_Oilers_seasons


Coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssnw2GA657s
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:54 AM ET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NHL_Entry_Draft


How well have the Oilers done since Tambo has left? Are you guys really that delusional? Come on be a bit realistic please!!

- undisputed_8821


Wikipedia lololololo.

Go back to high school; wikipedia isnt a credible source bud.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:55 AM ET
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lowe#Post_playing_career


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...f_Edmonton_Oilers_seasons


Coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssnw2GA657s

- undisputed_8821


Wikipedia? Again? Lol plug
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:02 AM ET
Wikipedia? Again? Lol plug
- Oilers4Life14

Are you for real? It is to show how the draft lottery was in 2005 and to show when KLowe started in management with the Oilers and the Oilers record since he joined! Are there any falsities in the wikipedia links? Jebus you guys on here are thick!
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 21 @ 1:26 AM ET
Are you for real? It is to show how the draft lottery was in 2005 and to show when KLowe started in management with the Oilers and the Oilers record since he joined! Are there any falsities in the wikipedia links? Jebus you guys on here are thick!
- undisputed_8821

You come in here once every 6 months spewing poop.

The pens sucked for years. They did suck during the Crosby draft having picked 5th then 1st then 2nd prior to that draft. They along with 3 other teams had the most balls in the lotto. They also got the 2nd overall pick the year later....

So go on spewing your KLowe poop. Its old and tired.

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