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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
Has the "reset" been completed?
- hillbillydeluxe

This site is a f*cking mess.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
SJ took the captaincy away from Thorton and Marleau. Does anyone else see the similarities with our team and theirs? Hank is the captain of this team, I don't question his leadership.Just the same turmoil on both clubs . I do think we get the worst press between the two.


I don't like the Moore /Bert thing still going on.I always thought it was BS and a 4 th line player taking advantage of our judicial system.It is just insane. The first court case was was lost so try again in a civil suit. NHL and Canucks just didn't want the press so they are going today a player that would have made 2 more mil 10 mil more than what he is worth to STFU .

God Bless CAnada

- VANTEL

Taking the Captaincy away from a player while he's still a member of your team is stupid! If you don't want the guy on your team or you feel it's time for the younger generation to take over, then move the player or buy him out.

The Stars did it in Dallas to Modano, I thought it was stupid then and I still think it's stupid now!!
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Taking the Captaincy away from a player while he's still a member of your team is stupid! If you don't want the guy on your team or you feel it's time for the younger generation to take over, then move the player or buy him out.

The Stars did it in Dallas to Modano, I thought it was stupid then and I still think it's stupid now!!

- LeftCoaster


I don't think it's stupid when there have been changes at every other level in the franchise. If I were the Captain, I'd completely understand if I had to re-earn my role under a new coach/GM/team identity. IMO a Sedin should have never been named Captain in the first place and keeping him as the face of this team = missing an opportunity to reset this team's collective attitude (Lefty, think about Mora's Seahawks VS Carroll's Seahawks...). I want players feeding off/following an aggressive/assertive leader like Bieksa, not a passive/lead-by-example wimp like Sedin.

I used to believe it didn't matter who wore the extra piece of fabric on their jersey... but I've changed my tune on that after watching teams like the Canucks & Sharks choke year after year under weak leadership (Thornton, Naslund, Luongo, Sedin - all weak-minded chokers).

Those teams adopted the competitive traits of the guys wearing letters regardless of the other leaders in the dressingroom.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
I don't think it's stupid when there have been changes at every other level in the franchise. If I were the Captain, I'd completely understand if I had to re-earn my role under a new coach/GM/team identity. IMO a Sedin should have never been named Captain in the first place and keeping him as the face of this team = missing an opportunity to reset this team's collective attitude (Lefty, think about Mora's Seahawks VS Carroll's Seahawks...). I want players feeding off/following an aggressive/assertive leader like Bieksa, not a passive/lead-by-example wimp like Sedin.

I used to believe it didn't matter who wore the extra piece of fabric on their jersey... but I've changed my tune on that after watching teams like the Canucks & Sharks choke year after year under weak leadership (Thornton, Naslund, Luongo, Sedin - all weak-minded chokers).

Those teams adopted the competitive traits of the guys wearing letters regardless of the other leaders in the dressingroom.

- DrChristianTroy




First off, I was surprised I could even get into the comments section this morning. The site is clearly improving.

Anyway, I am sure there are enough captains and former captains who have had great results when they have been all about letting their on ice play do the talking. Does Gretzky or Lidstrom fall into the "aggressive/assertive leader" category? Maybe they were assertive, but not necessarily aggressive.

I wouldn't have been upset if Bieksa was named captain after Naslund.

In the big scheme of things, I don't think it matters... You can win or lose with both. It is the total team.

As for taking a captaincy away, I think it makes more sense if the player is traded away rather than kept around. Not quite as bad as a goalie controversy but could be distracting to the team.

What happened in Ottawa with Spezza seems a bit messed up. Give him the captaincy and next thing you know he wants to be traded.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:29 PM ET
I don't think it's stupid when there have been changes at every other level in the franchise. If I were the Captain, I'd completely understand if I had to re-earn my role under a new coach/GM/team identity. IMO a Sedin should have never been named Captain in the first place and keeping him as the face of this team = missing an opportunity to reset this team's collective attitude (Lefty, think about Mora's Seahawks VS Carroll's Seahawks...). I want players feeding off/following an aggressive/assertive leader like Bieksa, not a passive/lead-by-example wimp like Sedin.

I used to believe it didn't matter who wore the extra piece of fabric on their jersey... but I've changed my tune on that after watching teams like the Canucks & Sharks choke year after year under weak leadership (Thornton, Naslund, Luongo, Sedin - all weak-minded chokers).

Those teams adopted the competitive traits of the guys wearing letters regardless of the other leaders in the dressingroom.

- DrChristianTroy


So I'm guessing you don't have a #33 jersey in your collection.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
This site is a f*cking mess.
- Marwood

Someone please fix this god damn site.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
Someone please fix this god damn site.
- Marwood

Ok it's done now
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 21 @ 3:01 PM ET
Ok it's done now
- VANTEL

We'll see.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 3:05 PM ET


First off, I was surprised I could even get into the comments section this morning. The site is clearly improving.

Anyway, I am sure there are enough captains and former captains who have had great results when they have been all about letting their on ice play do the talking. Does Gretzky or Lidstrom fall into the "aggressive/assertive leader" category? Maybe they were assertive, but not necessarily aggressive.

I wouldn't have been upset if Bieksa was named captain after Naslund.

In the big scheme of things, I don't think it matters... You can win or lose with both. It is the total team.

As for taking a captaincy away, I think it makes more sense if the player is traded away rather than kept around. Not quite as bad as a goalie controversy but could be distracting to the team.

What happened in Ottawa with Spezza seems a bit messed up. Give him the captaincy and next thing you know he wants to be traded.

- hillbillydeluxe



Was Gretzky was always laughing and joking when cameras we not on so I think he would have been pretty vocal in the locker room.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
So I'm guessing you don't have a #33 jersey in your collection.
- bloatedmosquito


I honestly have no problem with them other than I HATE that they're the appointed leaders of this team. AV really loved having pillow-biting submissive "yes men" as his leaders because a guy like Bieksa would actually represent the players and call him out on his BS. As cerebral hockey players, they're brilliant - but that's it.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Aug 21 @ 3:51 PM ET
Hoping the new comment thread will be more welcoming of your thoughts in today's blog...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=61909
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
Was Gretzky was always laughing and joking when cameras we not on so I think he would have been pretty vocal in the locker room.
- VANTEL


Can't remember..

I can understand Doc's desire for a change in captaincy since our recent Captains have been fairly low key dating back to Linden with the exception being that #11 aberration.
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