Where you see that?
- Vukota

He has mentioned it on more than 1 occasion.... So has to be at least some truth to it. He's one of the few bloggers I actually believe....

I wonder if Sparky has this problem, if so.. think Dee is hard at work with her article?

http://www.sbnation.com/l...es-junk-hitting-slash-fic


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They've been talking about it for a while now. Hawk fans seem to think leddy is worth nielsen and a pick but have been talking about getting rid of him from the middle of last season on. Usual bs
- Cptmjl

That's the funny part......

He has mentioned it on more than 1 occasion.... So has to be at least some truth to it. He's one of the few bloggers I actually believe....
- Ur Not Me

Yeah I've heard it before but I thought maybe something new just came out

Yeah I've heard it before but I thought maybe something new just came out
- Vukota

Nope as long as we need a D-men they have the perfect one for us to over pay for, and a first line wing we cant live without.

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Nope as long as we need a D-men they have the perfect one for us to over pay for, and a first line wing we cant live without.

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- XxNYIxX

They have to shed salary so they're not exactly in the best situation either. Tack on having to sign Seabrook next season.

They have to shed salary so they're not exactly in the best situation either. Tack on having to sign Seabrook next season.
- Cptmjl

Lots of outlets think they will lose Seabrook.. there was just a story I read on the internet the other day about how hard it will be for them to resign him.

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Lots of outlets think they will lose Seabrook.. there was just a story I read on the internet the other day about how hard it will be for them to resign him.

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- XxNYIxX

They have 2 more years to figure out Seabrook. With the cap increasing by then and the talk of trading away Sharp and getting rid of some bad contracts in Bickell, Versteeg, etc, they could be in a decent position of resigning him?

They have 2 more years to figure out Seabrook. With the cap increasing by then and the talk of trading away Sharp and getting rid of some bad contracts in Bickell, Versteeg, etc, they could be in a decent position of resigning him?
- Ur Not Me

Have to think Chicago finds a way to keep Seabrook. I would also think
Seabrook will want to work something out and stay with Chicago.

donovan wasn't bad last season, just don't pair him with carkner and expect him to the one defensively responsible one. When donovan was paired with dehaan you could see he was a LOT more steady and was even stepping up and taking the body with some good open ice hits. Paired with carkner if he took one chance it was in our net because carkner was some kind of awful last season.
- Isles_since_6

Donovan is one of the guys I've often spoken about- a defenseman who is better suited to playing defense than getting caught flat-footed while gambling at the offensive blue line. You can't just turn everyone into Paul Coffey by drawing some nonsense on the white board. ...and as you say, it didn't help that Carkner is slower than I am...at least with de Haan, he can make that hit without having to catch a train to get back in time.

Have to think Chicago finds a way to keep Seabrook. I would also think
Seabrook will want to work something out and stay with Chicago.
- ses111

If we get any defenseman, it's going to be an Oduya-level player, IMO....a solid five who is a pending UFA, and therefore won't cost us dearly insofar as what we give them in return. If it happens, it will be right before they have to make sure they make their cap number. Leddy will cost more, because he's a RFA and his offensive stats are better (the latter part means that Garth will find him more valuable, give his track record with defensemen). I'd rather have Oduya, myself, because he learned how to play defense in New Jersey.

I like Seabrook, too- the problem is that a premier player like him is going to cost you a lot of cap space, first of all, and second of all, someone will unload a solid asset or two from their farm system for him, pending UFA or not. You have to be willing to do both of those things if you want Seabrook, and if you can't sign him, you've got another Vanek on your hands.

adding kaberle to our blue line is like adding more weights to someone's ankles before tossing them in the river.
- Isles_since_6

Exactly....he's another one for whom the word "DEFENSEman" is an exaggeration of his skill level......we have a sh*tload of those...

Donovan was bad at times last year regardless of who he was playing with. You can't tell me him missing or flubbing one timer after one timer was because he was playing with Carkner. He was better later on in the year no doubt but I'm still far from sold on that guy regardless of who he plays with.
- Vukota

I agree to an extent, but I can't help thinking that lot of the problems those kids had last year were caused by the defensive game plan:




I just wish these diagrams would show the part of the picture where they all crash into each other head on, and fall down....I'd like to believe that if that was on the drawing, they just might throw it out.

I agree to an extent, but I can't help thinking that lot of the problems those kids had last year were caused by the defensive game plan:




I just wish these diagrams would show the part of the picture where they all crash into each other head on, and fall down....I'd like to believe that if that was on the drawing, they just might throw it out.
- dcb1

I agree to an extent, but I can't help thinking that lot of the problems those kids had last year were caused by the defensive game plan:




I just wish these diagrams would show the part of the picture where they all crash into each other head on, and fall down....I'd like to believe that if that was on the drawing, they just might throw it out.
- dcb1

Donovan has to find a way to make it up and down that tree on the right faster. That's all there is to it.

Donovan has to find a way to make it up and down that tree on the right faster. That's all there is to it.
- UIF

Someone just needs to eliminate the tree!!!

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If we get any defenseman, it's going to be an Oduya-level player, IMO....a solid five who is a pending UFA, and therefore won't cost us dearly insofar as what we give them in return. If it happens, it will be right before they have to make sure they make their cap number. Leddy will cost more, because he's a RFA and his offensive stats are better (the latter part means that Garth will find him more valuable, give his track record with defensemen). I'd rather have Oduya, myself, because he learned how to play defense in New Jersey.

I like Seabrook, too- the problem is that a premier player like him is going to cost you a lot of cap space, first of all, and second of all, someone will unload a solid asset or two from their farm system for him, pending UFA or not. You have to be willing to do both of those things if you want Seabrook, and if you can't sign him, you've got another Vanek on your hands.
- dcb1

I agree. No team will trade us a star dman under contract. It will be an Oduya or Leddy type player. The star dman will likely come from the Isles own prospects like Reinhart and Pulock.

Someone just needs to eliminate the tree!!!

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- XxNYIxX

Bunch of softies!

Donovan was bad at times last year regardless of who he was playing with. You can't tell me him missing or flubbing one timer after one timer was because he was playing with Carkner. He was better later on in the year no doubt but I'm still far from sold on that guy regardless of who he plays with.
- Vukota

Of course he was, as was Hamonic, amac, well, everyone except Dehaan. He was brought up and sent down, scratched then dressed and then played with crap partners as a rookie. I know he had a lot of bad moments but I still think he's going to be an excellent nhl defenseman if he's played with a mobile partner who plays more conservatively. Not ready to write him off, but with all the d prospects we have he's not going to get much time to show it. He could be moved if he looks the same in camp.

Lots of outlets think they will lose Seabrook.. there was just a story I read on the internet the other day about how hard it will be for them to resign him.

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- XxNYIxX

what is this internet thing you speak so highly of?

what is this internet thing you speak so highly of?
- LetsGoIsles

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what is this internet thing you speak so highly of?
- LetsGoIsles

It's a machine that spits out only facts.

It's a machine that spits out only facts.
- eichiefs9

this is news to me!!...lemme google it

They've been talking about it for a while now. Hawk fans seem to think leddy is worth nielsen and a pick but have been talking about getting rid of him from the middle of last season on. Usual bs
- Cptmjl

Fransy makes $50k more a year than Leddy. That move wouldn't shed any salary for them.

It's a machine that spits out only facts.
- eichiefs9

Just like me.