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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:00 PM ET
Schenn needs to be in top shape, and needs to be meaner to reach his potential.

I always felt he could be a 30 point defensive beast. Would be nice to see him develop that way.

- Feeling Glucky?

Berube and Hextall haven't been shy in telling the players that they better show up in near game shape to training camp if they want to make the team and play. So (hopefully) top shape won't be a problem. As for mean - who knows. We see a glimmer of it the question remains whether he can be consistent. Maybe someone should hit his car in the parking lot. That seems to light a fire under people, lmao...
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Aug 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
Morin, Simmonds, and Coburn for Seth Jones
- jmatchett383

No more half measures. Blow it up.

Giroux for Seth Jones, Kevin Fiala, and a 2015 1st rd pick.

A Girouxless Flyers are easily bottom 3 so add McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin and the Flyers are on their way to being legit contenders for the next 10-15 years.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:02 PM ET
Berube and Hextall haven't been shy in telling the players that they better show up in near game shape to training camp if they want to make the team and play. So (hopefully) top shape won't be a problem. As for mean - who knows. We see a glimmer of it the question remains whether he can be consistent. Maybe someone should hit his car in the parking lot. That seems to light a fire under people, lmao...
- FlyersGrace

i always thought the problem with schenn was that he was too bulky(not fat) which slowed him down...
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:03 PM ET
No more half measures. Blow it up.

Giroux for Seth Jones, Kevin Fiala, and a 2015 1st rd pick.

A Girouxless Flyers are easily bottom 3 so add McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin and the Flyers are on their way to being legit contenders for the next 10-15 years.

- psuhockey

get forsberg and im in
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Aug 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
No more half measures. Blow it up.

Giroux for Seth Jones, Kevin Fiala, and a 2015 1st rd pick.

A Girouxless Flyers are easily bottom 3 so add McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin and the Flyers are on their way to being legit contenders for the next 10-15 years.

- psuhockey


I'd rather do Giroux for Trouba, Ehlers, and a 2015 1st if we are going that route.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
they could have traded someone from their top 9 (already on team) and guaranteed this kid a spot...instead they decided a second rd pick was better.
- PhillaBully


Yeah ok.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
Let's not go the route where Giroux is going to waive his NMC to go to Nashville or Winnipeg.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Aug 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
i always thought the problem with schenn was that he was too bulky(not fat) which slowed him down...
- PhillaBully


Both Schenn's are doughboys! They need to learn to love the gym...and hate carbs this summer!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
First of all, that post was a huge joke.

Secondly, he'll never be a key cog moving forward. He's a cheap #7/call up who can play somewhat solid defense. Lacks foot speed and has little offensive pop (has 2 goals, though). Basically, he's a cheaper, less experienced, less shot-blocking version of Grossmann with 2 good knees and more willing to fight.

- jmatchett383



I don't think Lauridsen comes remotely close to Grossmann as a player. I don't even know if he qualifies as a call up at this point. It's possible the writing is on the wall and Lauridsen is a career minor leaguer.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Aug 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Let's not go the route where Giroux is going to waive his NMC to go to Nashville or Winnipeg.
- Feanor


NMC always gettin in the way of my armchair GMing.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Let's not go the route where Giroux is going to waive his NMC to go to Nashville or Winnipeg.
- Feanor



he has always dreamt of playing with weber
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
The Hawks top 6 is made up of all stars. They, essentially, have 2 top lines. They may have the best collection of forwards in the NHL.

You don't trade away top line talent for a player who MAY become a top line player one day.

Hayes made it clear he wasn't going to sign with the Hawks. There was no sense in bending over backwards to try and appease him.

- PhillySportsGuy


Hopefully Berube can sprinkle Rino in the Flyers top 6. Will keep other teams honest.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:23 PM ET
he has always dreamt of playing with weber
- -davies-


Male grabass may be a felony in Nashville
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 12:29 PM ET
No more half measures. Blow it up.

Giroux for Seth Jones, Kevin Fiala, and a 2015 1st rd pick.

A Girouxless Flyers are easily bottom 3 so add McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin and the Flyers are on their way to being legit contenders for the next 10-15 years.

- psuhockey

are we not legit?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Aug 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
Hayes to the Rangers.
- KGBflyers10

Good. He can get schooled by Gostisbehere for the next 10 years like he did in the semifinals last year.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Aug 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
are we not legit?
- 2Real

With the Flyers defense, no. And they won't be until they fix it which will take 3-4 seasons.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
So has Hayes signed with the Rangers?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
No more half measures. Blow it up.

Giroux for Seth Jones, Kevin Fiala, and a 2015 1st rd pick.

A Girouxless Flyers are easily bottom 3 so add McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin and the Flyers are on their way to being legit contenders for the next 10-15 years.

- psuhockey


ESP if they send is jokinen also.

I would definitely consider this. It would be more fun to root for mcdavid/eichel than another bubble playoff entry one and done
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Aug 20 @ 12:39 PM ET
Hey Bill,
I remember a crazy rumor going around at the time of the Kenny Linseman trade. Supposedly he was shipped out because he was dating one of the Snider daughters and Ed Snider was not happy about it. Do you recall anything about this?

I used to live around the corner from JC Dobbs and was in there one night in the 79-81 era-Linseman, MacLeish and a few other players were at a table on the second floor
No Snider children were present then.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
(frank) Kevin Hayes. Give me +7 any day

MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
So has Hayes signed with the Rangers?
- Pixote Andolini



Not sure.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
are we not legit?
- 2Real


We're legit, but not too legit to quit...or lose in Round 1.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Good. He can get schooled by Gostisbehere for the next 10 years like he did in the semifinals last year.
- psuhockey

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Aug 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
(frank) Kevin Hayes. Give me +7 any day


- jmatchett383

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 20 @ 1:06 PM ET

- aightwebang17


(frank)in' Screech
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