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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 17 @ 3:46 AM ET
What a tool. If a team like the Wings signed Grabovski and Kulemin for the same exact term and money, you'd probably be calling it another coup for Ken Holland. These two contracts are exactly in line with the kind salaries just about every other UFA throughout the league gets but because its the damned if they do, damned if they don't Isles, you feel the need to chime in with your two stupid cents and get another laugh out of Yashin and DiPietro, each about as relevant to the Isles right now as Mark Messier and Todd Bertuzzi are to the Nucks.
- PPG75

Good post
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Aug 17 @ 8:50 AM ET
ahh the isles were a lottery team bud, at least they have a shot at McDavid next year
- GardinerExpress

Doesn't their first go to Buffalo this season?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 17 @ 10:08 AM ET
Like who?

Trading hall for us would be like u trading pietrangelo.
Trading nuge would be retarded for reasons that are plain.

So it always comes back to ebs or yaks. Yaks had a rough sophomore season. His value wouldnt be worth it.
Not only that, but what if we traded eberle and it wasnt just a soph slump for yaks? We totally gutted our rw strength.

Perron might be a decent candidate. But agaim, he plays a style that is sorely lacking on our squad. Grit, feisty, all with talent. We need more of his kind, not less.

I think its a misconception with the oilers of what we have/need.
We get a bonafide stud on the backend, sure we'll make a move. But we arent better through a trade for multiple plugs or secondary guys.

- hugefemale dog77


Is there a way we could get this type of post on the main page so it doesn't have to be rewritten everyday to answer the "oilers need to make a move"
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Is there a way we could get this type of post on the main page so it doesn't have to be rewritten everyday to answer the "oilers need to make a move"
- ystoil

This one and a list of the multiple high picks of defencemen the oilers have taken in the last 3-4 years
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
This one and a list of the multiple high picks of defencemen the oilers have taken in the last 3-4 years
- hugefemale dog77

You guys are in a similar situation as us with d prospects and waiting on them, but your nhl depth on d is better while we have more depth up front and an edge in net. Both teams should be improved this season.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
You guys are in a similar situation as us with d prospects and waiting on them, but your nhl depth on d is better while we have more depth up front and an edge in net. Both teams should be improved this season.
- Isles_since_6


I'd agree with this. Our depth on the wings is actually pretty good but we are sorely lacking centres.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
Finally something we can agree on. Totally agree with #2.

I've been saying all summer how the Islanders haven't gotten any better, at least offensively, unless it's going to come from their rookies.

The 2 main pieces they added in Grabo and Kuli essentially have the same points combined as Moulson and later Vanek would have provided so at best it's a lateral move and for more money
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
Finally something we can agree on. Totally agree with #2.

I've been saying all summer how the Islanders haven't gotten any better, at least offensively, unless it's going to come from their rookies.

The 2 main pieces they added in Grabo and Kuli essentially have the same points combined as Moulson and later Vanek would have provided so at best it's a lateral move and for more money

- nikel


Grabo will put up 55 and 30 from kulemin (if he plays with grabo). Those aren't out of the question.

Islanders will be in a playoff spot this year IMO.

They also drastically improved goaltending.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
Miller in Vancouver will be a disaster because they will be one of the worst teams in the league... That's a bold statement. Van is a goalie graveyard, don't get me wrong, but going forward with Lack and Markstrom would have been a bigger disaster. I've seen Miller bail Buffalo out of quite a few regular season games in the recent past, and the Canucks have better depth on D IMO then the Sabers.

I get you're a Coyotes fan and would love nothing more than to see Van drop to 30th next year, but I just don't see it happening. I think Arizona and Vancouver will both do respectively good next year, and only time will tell.

- Palfenier


Yeah because st louis' D was kinda sh!t lmao. Miller is junk and so is vans D. 6m for miller and 5m for vrbata is a disaster don't kid yourselves
dps0610
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 03.04.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:54 PM ET
You are full of vinegar. I stopped reading Arizona blogs bc of it. Now I have to monitor the author too.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:50 PM ET
you guys were ripping reimer for allowing bad goals at bad times in the last two months of the season and wanting him gone. Bernier was good, but I was high on Halak before we traded for his rights and signed him. I will acknowledge I'm not entirely impartial here though.
- Isles_since_6


We were. He blew it. But the fact is, Reimer has had a really solid career on the Leafs thus far.
JohnDwyer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
Should if stayed away from Miller. Would of gotten a good position in the lottery. Or could of surprised everyone withought Miller. I thought the Nucks would of targeted Barzal.
- JVR_42_PK81


Rly? You srus?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Grabo will put up 55 and 30 from kulemin (if he plays with grabo). Those aren't out of the question.

Islanders will be in a playoff spot this year IMO.

They also drastically improved goaltending.

- ystoil

This, no isles fan is expecting 20 goals from kulemin, but 10-15 with two way play is a welcome addition and if grabovski plays better with his buddy, then it's a bonus.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
Finally something we can agree on. Totally agree with #2.

I've been saying all summer how the Islanders haven't gotten any better, at least offensively, unless it's going to come from their rookies.

The 2 main pieces they added in Grabo and Kuli essentially have the same points combined as Moulson and later Vanek would have provided so at best it's a lateral move and for more money

- nikel

The only reason every Sabres fan is hoping for the isles to finish bottom 5 is because of the pick. This is why almost every Sabres fan predicts we're going to suck.
PPG75
New York Islanders
Joined: 10.10.2013

Aug 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
The only reason every Sabres fan is hoping for the isles to finish bottom 5 is because of the pick. This is why almost every Sabres fan predicts we're going to suck.
- Isles_since_6


Sabre fans are an increasingly pathetic group. Not only are they hinging their own future onto rooting against their own team, they are rooting for the Isles and Blues to suck as well next season.

Why should good players like Matt Moulson and Cody Hodgson even bother showing up next year? Their own fans will, by and large, be actively rooting against them
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
Sabre fans are an increasingly pathetic group. Not only are they hinging their own future onto rooting against their own team, they are rooting for the Isles and Blues to suck as well next season.

Why should good players like Matt Moulson and Cody Hodgson even bother showing up next year? Their own fans will, by and large, be actively rooting against them

- PPG75

I can understand them hoping for that, it's the arguments they keep coming up with as to why we're worse or as bad as last year that are a major reach.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
Sabre fans are an increasingly pathetic group. Not only are they hinging their own future onto rooting against their own team, they are rooting for the Isles and Blues to suck as well next season.

Why should good players like Matt Moulson and Cody Hodgson even bother showing up next year? Their own fans will, by and large, be actively rooting against them

- PPG75

I dunno man.

I think when uve fully committed to the rebuild, kinda comes with the territory.
u want the best pick possible. especially in a draft like the one next year.

but as soon as the team steps onto the ice, it's impossible to cheer for them to lose regardless of the situation (at least in my case)

last game of the year this past season hinged on 3rd or 2nd last. what coulda been the difference between the player we need or not. I was stoked they stomped the canucks and finished in the higher spot.....
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Aug 17 @ 5:43 PM ET
Yeah because st louis' D was kinda sh!t lmao. Miller is junk and so is vans D. 6m for miller and 5m for vrbata is a disaster don't kid yourselves
- Jordy8


I hate the Canucks but this is a seriously misinformed comment. I would put Bieksa , Hamhuis, Edler, Tanev and young Corrado among the top 1/3 of NHL defenses....and significantly higher than that of the Penguins.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
I hate the Canucks but this is a seriously misinformed comment. I would put Bieksa , Hamhuis, Edler, Tanev and young Corrado among the top 1/3 of NHL defenses....and significantly higher than that of the Penguins.
- Jeropotato

The Canucks have one of the deepest d cores in the league.
Top third at the very least....
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 5:59 PM ET
I hate the Canucks but this is a seriously misinformed comment. I would put Bieksa , Hamhuis, Edler, Tanev and young Corrado among the top 1/3 of NHL defenses....and significantly higher than that of the Penguins.
- Jeropotato

I agree, they could use some depth up front but they're not a bottom 5 team with a coach that let's them skate.
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
Well we going with a tandem of Scrivens and Fasth in net, and we just added Fayne and Nikitin in the offseason. We have every reason to believe that Nurse will eventually be our #1 in a few years with Marincin and Klefbom projected to be solid top 4 D-men and already with a bit of NHL experience....seriously if there is a "big Grizzled vet" that can play on the top pair we could trade I'm sure Eberle or Yak would be on a plane there tomorrow....but who's available?
- Jeropotato


I don't think the Blues necessarily need anymore offense. They don't need more goals in general, they need more "timely" goals. However, if th Blues felt they needed a guy like Ebs or Yak, I think it's possible they could offer up someone like Shattenkirk. Let's be honest, the Blues have about four D-men who could play on the top line of about half the teams in the league. Though Shattenkirk is a big name in St. Louis, it's not like arguably the best defense in the league would drop that much without him.

Also, about the guys bagging on Halak, I was one of the "in Halak we trust" kind of people. He has some confidence problems, but every time that confidence gets built up, he plays like he's the best in the league. I thought he was great and will likely be great for you guys.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
I don't think the Blues necessarily need anymore offense. They don't need more goals in general, they need more "timely" goals. However, if th Blues felt they needed a guy like Ebs or Yak, I think it's possible they could offer up someone like Shattenkirk. Let's be honest, the Blues have about four D-men who could play on the top line of about half the teams in the league. Though Shattenkirk is a big name in St. Louis, it's not like arguably the best defense in the league would drop that much without him.
- RobShouts

u include bergund with shattenkirk and one of those oilers would be considered.

shats by himself doesn't play the type of game the oilers desperately need to get to the next level. no diss to him, good player and the oilers could use him. just saying I don't see mact making that trade without another needed piece in the deal as well.
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Aug 17 @ 7:49 PM ET
Sabre fans are an increasingly pathetic group. Not only are they hinging their own future onto rooting against their own team, they are rooting for the Isles and Blues to suck as well next season.

Why should good players like Matt Moulson and Cody Hodgson even bother showing up next year? Their own fans will, by and large, be actively rooting against them

- PPG75


Even during a rebuild Sabres fans will root for their team to succeed to an extend that Islander fans couldn't comprehend, you have no idea how big hockey is becoming in Buffalo....NHL is rumored to be close to announcing the permanent relocation of the NHL scouting combine in the brand new Harbor Center hockey campus, on top of that it's also rumored the 2016 NHL draft could be there as well.

Some of us may say we want a McDavid next season but once playing starts no one will be rooting to lose, that's just ignorant and incompetency on your part.

I don't really give a sheet what the Islanders do next season, sure it would be nice to steal a nice pick from you but my prior comment wasn't based on that reasoning at all, in fact i provided my logic as to why the Offense didn't get better but more of a lateral move.....unless(as i said) your crop of good rookies develop quickly. You definitely did improve in goal but is that enough to gain the needed 14 or so points to qualify for the playoffs(last seaon #s)?.....hard to say, which i why I fail to see how the Offense dramatically improve, as you I guess, propose.

Maybe you could provide some of the "obvious" rational as to why the Islanders are a lock to make the playoffs after finishing in the bottom 5 last season.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 8:28 PM ET
leo komarov......jesus
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 9:41 PM ET
Sabre fans are an increasingly pathetic group. Not only are they hinging their own future onto rooting against their own team, they are rooting for the Isles and Blues to suck as well next season.

Why should good players like Matt Moulson and Cody Hodgson even bother showing up next year? Their own fans will, by and large, be actively rooting against them

- PPG75

Why wouldn't we root for you to suck? In fact if history is any indicator, you will suck. Thus making us better in the process
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