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Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Aug 16 @ 4:43 PM ET
I think it's a bit too optimistic to assume Anderson will take on a lesser role at this point in his career, even if he should. It's also equally a bit too optimistic to assume Lehner will become the number 1 guy. But if he isn't going to be the number 1 guy, this is a much bigger conversation and Anderson is not the answer.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Anderson's not exactly a clear-cut #1 goaltender, and neither is Lehner. What is the harm in paying both like 1a/1b options for the next few years, and giving Lehner the time he needs to develop into a #1 goaltender? As I said before, this is the one position that the team has no functional depth at in the AHL - having two viable goaltenders who can play extended periods of time is not a waste of the team's resources. I agree that it's not like money is no object, but if he would extend for 2 years at around the same amount he's making now I wouldn't think twice about that. Do people really think he's going to be getting multi-year $4M+ offers next summer?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
Would have been interesting to see what we could have got for Andy. I am not sold we would have got a lot more than what we got for Bishop. It also would have been interesting to keep all 3 and start Lehner in the AHL this past season (something I was against, but you never know). That's why trades are so fun to analyze so many ifs, ands, or buts. Now I miss TradeCentre. (frank)ing August.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


.....for real.

I think PD and RL (assistants GMs atm) have to think about Methot, Ryan, and MacaArthur NOW.

All have their own dynamics - but I think Ryan's is most important
JN1980
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.13.2014

Aug 16 @ 5:45 PM ET
They have the whole year to make a deal with Anderson or trade him to a team in need. I think its way too early to be making this decision. Why not see what he's going to play like this year ? Why not let him play for his contract and have some pressure ?
Unless they feel they have leverage because of his performance last year...
IMO Anderson is more valuable in a trade scenario on an expiring contract.
Lehner should be ready to take over the reigns by next year (I hope!)
What if Kari Lehtonen gets injured (for the 15th time)?
Could see us dealing with Dallas again...
I just don't get the logic behind this move, reminds me of the Phillips deal.

+1 Gord W.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Aug 16 @ 6:13 PM ET
Sens have Karlsson, Ceci on right side. Weircioch or Cowen: one of them should be traded if Marc Methot is retained. I really think Weircioch has more chemistry with the players and Methot is a better replacement for Cowen. The question is when to trade; the answer is when the value for these players is high. If Cowen has a big first half of the year would you look at trading Methot or PW? I want a guy left Alex Edler
conor_smythe
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 16 @ 10:57 PM ET
2013 spring: I was right about one thing.... they should of traded Anderson (even though he was playing amazing before his finger injury) and kept Bishop.

Bishop Lehner would of been awesome

- AlfieisKing



that makes two of us... but SHHHHH!

don't let people catch on that I actually know what I'm talking about
WillieAA
Location: Real Cool Breeze
Joined: 06.22.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:29 PM ET
|Give Anderson another year or two.

In fact, you could probably tell him depending how the season goes, he could stay, or be traded to a contender that has an untrustworthy number one, or an injury near the deadline requiring a savior - I think Andy would take his $3.5M and a guarantee to stay here if it goes well, move on to a contender if not.

Pesky Sens II would not be nearly as fun as the first - if Anderson kicks it like 2012-13 and we haven't added pieces to really ramp it up, trade him, draft high in the offseason, and add some prime goods to our top line + Karlsson and Lehner + Lazar and really do it right.

You need several gems to even think about the Cup - I think Murray is sorting out the size factor, now, a couple more skill pieces, and we can avoid the Leafs 47 years + of stench and lack of character, and counting. Oh wait, I'm sure Kessel and Phaneuf are ready to bust out, any post season now....one ball, side pocket.....
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 6:04 AM ET
|Give Anderson another year or two.

In fact, you could probably tell him depending how the season goes, he could stay, or be traded to a contender that has an untrustworthy number one, or an injury near the deadline requiring a savior - I think Andy would take his $3.5M and a guarantee to stay here if it goes well, move on to a contender if not.

Pesky Sens II would not be nearly as fun as the first - if Anderson kicks it like 2012-13 and we haven't added pieces to really ramp it up, trade him, draft high in the offseason, and add some prime goods to our top line + Karlsson and Lehner + Lazar and really do it right.

You need several gems to even think about the Cup - I think Murray is sorting out the size factor, now, a couple more skill pieces, and we can avoid the Leafs 47 years + of stench and lack of character, and counting. Oh wait, I'm sure Kessel and Phaneuf are ready to bust out, any post season now....one ball, side pocket.....

- WillieAA

Good comment, good job
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 17 @ 8:59 AM ET
|Give Anderson another year or two.

In fact, you could probably tell him depending how the season goes, he could stay, or be traded to a contender that has an untrustworthy number one, or an injury near the deadline requiring a savior - I think Andy would take his $3.5M and a guarantee to stay here if it goes well, move on to a contender if not.

Pesky Sens II would not be nearly as fun as the first - if Anderson kicks it like 2012-13 and we haven't added pieces to really ramp it up, trade him, draft high in the offseason, and add some prime goods to our top line + Karlsson and Lehner + Lazar and really do it right.

You need several gems to even think about the Cup - I think Murray is sorting out the size factor, now, a couple more skill pieces, and we can avoid the Leafs 47 years + of stench and lack of character, and counting. Oh wait, I'm sure Kessel and Phaneuf are ready to bust out, any post season now....one ball, side pocket.....

- WillieAA


Pretty good, you should post more often.

I think Ottawa is missing a power forward that plays with a physical edge with great hands and big speed. They are also missing the ideal partner for Karlsson. But I am starting to think that the perfect partner for EK65 may be like the best winger for Crosby. It may not be the guy who is really good in his own right but one who most effectively adapts to the superstar's game (Kunitz).

...sbs138...
Joined: 08.22.2013

Aug 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
with the Sens having no other goalies in the near future, 2 or 3 years, who can step in and replace Andy, this is probably a smart move. There's nothing wrong with having two good goalies, and it will most likely be at a combined cap hit of 6-7mil. pretty good deal if you ask me.

I`ve always liked Andy. he knows what it means to be a good teammate and knows what it means to be a back up goalie. he seems very humble and knows that with his age, it`s only a matter of time before he is bumped down to back up goalie.
sensano
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
I'm surprised Ottawa hasn't gone out and signed Jacob Markstrom out of Vancouver. I thought he wanted out and as the odd man out in Van, i'm certain he could be had at a good price. We trade off Anderson this season for whatever, save the cap space for a decent signing or to afford one of our UFA's.
I like Anderson, but like Philipps and Neil, he has no place on the team going forward.
sensano
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
with the Sens having no other goalies in the near future, 2 or 3 years, who can step in and replace Andy, this is probably a smart move. There's nothing wrong with having two good goalies, and it will most likely be at a combined cap hit of 6-7mil. pretty good deal if you ask me.

I`ve always liked Andy. he knows what it means to be a good teammate and knows what it means to be a back up goalie. he seems very humble and knows that with his age, it`s only a matter of time before he is bumped down to back up goalie.

- ...sbs138...


No doubt Anderson is a good goalie and team mate...the issue will be how much money are we throwing at what we hope will be a #2 goalie when we're trying to sign a group of key UFAs.
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Aug 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ottawa fans - who do you want to be the other goalie? Jose Theodore? I don't understand when we extend or sign Guys that are good old players why everyone is so negative about it - Anderson is a very good NHL and Lehner has not shown he is ready yet so why not extend Andy if he wants to?

Makes no sense to how people react when we want to keep one of our best players around
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
Ottawa fans - who do you want to be the other goalie? Jose Theodore? I don't understand when we extend or sign Guys that are good old players why everyone is so negative about it - Anderson is a very good NHL and Lehner has not shown he is ready yet so why not extend Andy if he wants to?

Makes no sense to how people react when we want to keep one of our best players around

- tuna99


nobody seems to object to re-signing him, as long as it isn't a longterm deal. thats a pretty reasonable stance.

as for not understanding why people didn't like the phillips extension......i take it you obviously don't watch him play. when a team who cries poor all the time sign a guy, who probably doesn't crack the nhl lineup on more than half the teams in the nhl, to a deal probably 3 times more than he's worth, while nickel and diming alfi (eventually driving him out)......fans should be pissed.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Aug 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
Curtis Lazar expected to play RW coming into training camp: looks like Sens have a log jam at that position:

Ryan --- Chiasson --- Stone --- Lazar --- Neil --- Condra

LW: MacArthur --- Michalek --- Hoffman --- Greening

C: Turris --- Zibanejad --- Legwand --- Smith --- Pageau

What Ottawa needs to do is make a trade. Trading Greening is too difficult (worst contract the Sens carry atm). Hoffman + Stone haven't established themselves yet I doubt the return would be worth what they could bring this season. Which leaves Hoffman; who dominated the opposition in the AHL last season, as an option. I'd say getting another top six forward or top pairing dman (prb giving up Cowen in the process) is a strong option
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Aug 17 @ 7:31 PM ET

In other news..

Looks like Anaheim has signed Jacob Silverberg to a 1 year deal worth $850,500, keeping him RFA.

Also keeping on the topic of Anaheim, i was looking at Stephan Noeson's stats from last year in the OHL, he had 53 pts compaired to 82 he had the year before. quite the decline for a 3rd year 1st round pick from the O.

Question does anyone remember who the Ducks picked in the first round with OTT's pick, it was 10th overall right?

I just hope we get Bobby Ryan signed soon, if not this deal could look pretty bad.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 7:53 PM ET
In other news..

Looks like Anaheim has signed Jacob Silverberg to a 1 year deal worth $850,500, keeping him RFA.

Also keeping on the topic of Anaheim, i was looking at Stephan Noeson's stats from last year in the OHL, he had 53 pts compaired to 82 he had the year before. quite the decline for a 3rd year 1st round pick from the O.

Question does anyone remember who the Ducks picked in the first round with OTT's pick, it was 10th overall right?

I just hope we get Bobby Ryan signed soon, if not this deal could look pretty bad.

- Erik6Karlsson5

Nick Ritchie. He's a interesting prospect cause he's big and mean, power forward. Could bust though and just be a 4th liner. Who knows
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Aug 17 @ 10:19 PM ET
Nick Ritchie. He's a interesting prospect cause he's big and mean, power forward. Could bust though and just be a 4th liner. Who knows
- ClarksonDavid


oh yes, now i remember.. kid looked to have a good fram on him on draft day.

If we can get Bobby Ryan locked up for $7 mill per for 7 years that'd be great! I think the sens win that trade if he is extended. not sure what we could fetch for Ryan at the trade deadline? An 18- 30 first round pick (assuming a playoff team would be aquiring him at the deadline) + a decent prospect?

Silverberg looks like he could potentially be a 25G 25A 2way second line winger.

Noeson still up in the air, think he turns 22 in Feb, still time for growth but i doubt he's a top 6 forward in the NHL.

And Ritchie we wont know for a few more years what he's capable of at the NHL level.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:01 AM ET
oh yes, now i remember.. kid looked to have a good fram on him on draft day.

If we can get Bobby Ryan locked up for $7 mill per for 7 years that'd be great! I think the sens win that trade if he is extended. not sure what we could fetch for Ryan at the trade deadline? An 18- 30 first round pick (assuming a playoff team would be aquiring him at the deadline) + a decent prospect?

Silverberg looks like he could potentially be a 25G 25A 2way second line winger.

Noeson still up in the air, think he turns 22 in Feb, still time for growth but i doubt he's a top 6 forward in the NHL.

And Ritchie we wont know for a few more years what he's capable of at the NHL level.

- Erik6Karlsson5


This is not the year to plan for trading a major asset at deadline. This draft field is so good that most teams will not be open to dealing picks from the first or second round. Hard to create a market for deals unless your getting several teams chasing a good asset.

If Ryan is going to be dealt, it will likely be in the next 6 weeks.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Aug 18 @ 9:02 AM ET
Curtis Lazar expected to play RW coming into training camp: looks like Sens have a log jam at that position:

Ryan --- Chiasson --- Stone --- Lazar --- Neil --- Condra

LW: MacArthur --- Michalek --- Hoffman --- Greening

C: Turris --- Zibanejad --- Legwand --- Smith --- Pageau

What Ottawa needs to do is make a trade. Trading Greening is too difficult (worst contract the Sens carry atm). Hoffman + Stone haven't established themselves yet I doubt the return would be worth what they could bring this season. Which leaves Hoffman; who dominated the opposition in the AHL last season, as an option. I'd say getting another top six forward or top pairing dman (prb giving up Cowen in the process) is a strong option

- AlfieisKing


Sit Neil for most games, problem solved.
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:25 AM ET
Ok, we need a new GM/Owner that wants to win and not save money...

Boro for 3 years!!! Really!?!?

So I guess it's bye to Weircioch...

Seriously though, WTF? Boro had zero leverage and we signed him!
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:28 AM ET
Ok, we need a new GM/Owner that wants to win and not save money...

Boro for 3 years!!! Really!?!?

So I guess it's bye to Weircioch...

Seriously though, WTF? Boro had zero leverage and we signed him!

- riceroni


is it a 1-way deal?
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:30 AM ET
is it a 1-way deal?
- sensarmy_11

sadly... yes
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
sadly... yes
- riceroni


so then who's being traded?

1, 2, 3,.........speculate.

p.s. - if they extend boro and then trade wiercioch, i'm no longer a sens fan.
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:38 AM ET
so then who's being traded?

1, 2, 3,.........speculate.

p.s. - if they extend boro and then trade wiercioch, i'm no longer a sens fan.

- sensarmy_11

Try being a full season ticket holder!

Not going to be easy selling my friends on coming to games!
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 18 @ 9:46 AM ET
Try being a full season ticket holder!

Not going to be easy selling my friends on coming to games!

- riceroni


if this is the philosophy of the team now, then consider me having the same philosophy.

i'll be a sens fan, while spending the least amount of my money on them as possible. watch games on tv.....and that's it.
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