the oilers could have won the cup last year but it wouldnt have made a difference if you are ranking the sens above the leafs. it's okay man, not everyone can be knowledgeable about hockey. some people actually know what their talking about, while others like yourself just turn on their XBOX and simulate a season in nhl 14 to see how good teams are.
- sensnucksnocups

Yeah I actually had a bit of a hard time after Philly and Washington...I can see the Leafs finishing ahead of the Sens, and maybe Carolina and Jersey too...but I don't think it matters too much. Clearly a sore spot.

the oilers could have won the cup last year but it wouldnt have made a difference if you are ranking the sens above the leafs. it's okay man, not everyone can be knowledgeable about hockey. some people actually know what their talking about, while others like yourself just turn on their XBOX and simulate a season in nhl 14 to see how good teams are.
- sensnucksnocups

You seem upset. Are you compensating for something?

I agree with most of this but I found those two a bit puzzling, not a big believer in NYR?


Edit: I'd say Philly's a bit low as well but I say that every year so what do I know
- Sabresfan-365

NJ was screwed by shootouts (0-12), more luck there, losing Brodeur, n a sniper in Cammalleri to play with Jagr-Zajac will give them the push they need IMO. Top 5 possession team. Also a big believer in Schneider, think he's a top 5 goalie

Hard time placing NYR. Think they took too big of a blow in Richards, Stralman, Pouliot, Boyle.

Philly was kind of a fringe team last year n the moves they made were terrible. Hartnell>>>Umberger and Macdonald's an absolute anchor. One of the reasons I have NYI doing so much better is losing Macdonald. Also think Mason'll slip

NJ was screwed by shootouts (0-12), more luck there, losing Brodeur, n a sniper in Cammalleri to play with Jagr-Zajac will give them the push they need IMO. Top 5 possession team. Also a big believer in Schneider, think he's a top 5 goalie

Hard time placing NYR. Think they took too big of a blow in Richards, Stralman, Pouliot, Boyle.

Philly was kind of a fringe team last year n the moves they made were terrible. Hartnell>>>Umberger and Macdonald's an absolute anchor. One of the reasons I have NYI doing so much better is losing Macdonald. Also think Mason'll slip
- TheNugeIsHuge

I'm with you in thinking the Islanders will make it. They are way better than they were in lock out year IMO....last year was just a bad season, I think, Tavares injury, Vanek circus,etc.

NJ was screwed by shootouts (0-12), more luck there, losing Brodeur, n a sniper in Cammalleri to play with Jagr-Zajac will give them the push they need IMO. Top 5 possession team. Also a big believer in Schneider, think he's a top 5 goalie

Hard time placing NYR. Think they took too big of a blow in Richards, Stralman, Pouliot, Boyle.

Philly was kind of a fringe team last year n the moves they made were terrible. Hartnell>>>Umberger and Macdonald's an absolute anchor. One of the reasons I have NYI doing so much better is losing Macdonald. Also think Mason'll slip
- TheNugeIsHuge

Forgot about that

I guess I'm sort of banking on one of Philly's young guys having a major break out year kind of like Voracek last year.

I'll be interested in seeing how NYR does without those guys but most of that core is still there. I'd personally have them a bit higher but I see the merit in why other wouldn't rank them as high as I would.

I'm with you in thinking the Islanders will make it. They are way better than they were in lock out year IMO....last year was just a bad season, I think, Tavares injury, Vanek circus,etc.
- Jeropotato

Goalie will make the biggest difference for them IMO


Not a big fan of their depth, but barring any significant injuries, they should contend for a spot.

I'm with you in thinking the Islanders will make it. They are way better than they were in lock out year IMO....last year was just a bad season, I think, Tavares injury, Vanek circus,etc.
- Jeropotato

like EDM their goaltending last year was just so piss poor. Halak-Johnson is solid. Grabo+Kulemin added. Nelson, Strome, n Lee more developed. Their D is underrated too. De Haan-Hamonic is solid

Goalie will make the biggest difference for them IMO


Not a big fan of their depth, but barring any significant injuries, they should contend for a spot.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't spectacular quality among their forwards (with the obvious exceptions)but they have depth.Defense might be an issue, but they all a year older which is good for all but Vis.

I don't spectacular quality among their forwards (with the obvious exceptions)but they have depth.Defense might be an issue, but they all a year older which is good for all but Vis.
- Jeropotato

Yea should've been more specific but I was mainly thinking defence.

To me, goaltending will be the reason they make it, and coaching will be the reason they don't (but i suspect he's got a very short leash going into this season).

Forgot about that

I guess I'm sort of banking on one of Philly's young guys having a major break out year kind of like Voracek last year.

I'll be interested in seeing how NYR does without those guys but most of that core is still there. I'd personally have them a bit higher but I see the merit in why other wouldn't rank them as high as I would.
- Sabresfan-365

I've got a gut feeling NJ n NYI make it so wasn't sure who'd make it of NYR n MTL. Don't know quite as much about the east n don't know how some teams'll do under new coaches.

Like Washington for example under Trotz n their new additions. Say what you will about how badly they overpaid Orpik-Niskanen, their D is deep. Green-Carlson-Alzner-Niskanen-Orpik-Orlov..?

K I'll go

West:
Chicago
LA
St. Louis
San Jose
Anaheim
Dallas
Minnesota
Vancouver
Colorado
Winnipeg
Arizona
Edmonton
Nashville
Calgary

East:
Boston
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Columbus
Detroit
Montreal
New Jersey
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Washington
Carolina
Ottawa
Toronto
Philly
Florida
Buffalo
- TheNugeIsHuge

I can't believe a fan of the basement lottery picking Oilers thinks he knows anything about hockey ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Leafs r das bestezzzzzzzzz!!!!!

My team is not very good. Has zero impact on my knowledge. Your team is slightly better. Has zero impact on your knowledge. I admire the fact that you have faith in your team though, although it may be a bit displaced.
- Jeropotato

A little displaced? He calls the Leafs a contender. And then he has the balls to say someone else doesn't have hockey knowledge. Not too mention his arguments are hypothetical extremes. He's not very good St trolling. And yeah you bet I'm planning a parade through his home town if/when the Sens place better.

I can't believe a fan of the basement lottery picking Oilers thinks he knows anything about hockey ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Leafs r das bestezzzzzzzzz!!!!!
- Nucker101

So...when the Oilers finally do make the playoff's, as fans, do we collectively get a little smarter?

I've got a gut feeling NJ n NYI make it so wasn't sure who'd make it of NYR n MTL. Don't know quite as much about the east n don't know how some teams'll do under new coaches.

Like Washington for example under Trotz n their new additions. Say what you will about how badly they overpaid Orpik-Niskanen, their D is deep. Green-Carlson-Alzner-Niskanen-Orpik-Orlov..?
- TheNugeIsHuge

They make them better on D no question despite the ridiculous contracts they have. My biggest concern with them would be depth at wing. Past the 1st line, I don't have high hopes for guys like Brouwer and Fehr as top 6 forwards.

So...when the Oilers finally do make the playoff's, as fans, do we collectively get a little smarter?
- Jeropotato

Ask SensNucksNoCups, I don't make the rules brah.


LA Kings fans hockey knowledge must be increasing big time these past few years.

They make them better on D no question despite the ridiculous contracts they have. My biggest concern with them would be depth at wing. Past the 1st line, I don't have high hopes for guys like Brouwer and Fehr as top 6 forwards.
- Sabresfan-365

true but Trotz has done good with worse up front

I expect a bounce back from Anderson/Lehner that'll compensate for Spezza leaving. OTT did just finish ahead of TOR.

Again I see instead of adding anything to the discussion you went way off topic to somewhere you thrive, lifeless insults
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's all he does. Good trolls know how to back up an argument.

I can't believe a fan of the basement lottery picking Oilers thinks he knows anything about hockey ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Leafs r das bestezzzzzzzzz!!!!!
- Nucker101

i no. i shud stop postin cuz my teem iz bad. At least the oilers have cupz though ya dum nucks fan

That's all he does. Good trolls know how to back up an argument.
- YzermanIsTheMan

I prefer Prock.

true but Trotz has done good with worse up front
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's true, I'll be curious to see if they buy in to his system. The contrast in coaching styles in DC over the last few years is nuts.

Boudreau-Hunter-Oates-Trotz, not an easy transition.

oh, and since the only thing you can focus on is emoticons since you aren't intelligent enough to argue with, here you go kiddo:


- sensnucksnocups

I can't tell if this guy is just trolling, or actually as stupid as he seems.....

Ask SensNucksNoCups, I don't make the rules brah.


LA Kings fans hockey knowledge must be increasing big time these past few years.
- Nucker101

Well none of them seem too bad on here...but it's hard as hell to visit a Penguins or Blackhawks thread nowadays....I get treated like a Hobo in Beverly Hills over there

I can't tell if this guy is just trolling, or actually as stupid as he seems.....
- hugefemale dog77

C) An "alt"

That's true, I'll be curious to see if they buy in to his system. The contrast in coaching styles in DC over the last few years is nuts.

Boudreau-Hunter-Oates-Trotz, not an easy transition.
- Sabresfan-365

I still don't understand why they let Boudreau go

That's true, I'll be curious to see if they buy in to his system. The contrast in coaching styles in DC over the last few years is nuts.

Boudreau-Hunter-Oates-Trotz, not an easy transition.
- Sabresfan-365

No sh!t. Kinda have to wonder, if it doesn't work out this year with Trotz, if the Caps look at making major changes.