Dats is still rated as the 4th best center in the league, and Zetterberg as the 2nd best left winger.
Babcock will be resigned by Oct 1st.
The prospects pool is great as well.
If they made the playoffs last year with 2nd most games lost to injuries to top 6
forwards, I am not worried about your predictions.
After all, you think the Leafs and Islanders are moving up.
- StargateSG1

Everybodies prospect pool /young nhl tallent is the greatest except ottawa they are finishing last

Just asking..... Cause I don't want this to turn into a debate

But u putting the Leafs 5th & Isles 8th
So you think that if the season started tomm, the Leafs have a better roster? If so, why u think that?
- Ur Not Me

Leafs got better from top to bottom IMO. their going to roll 4 lines instead of 3 so top 2 lines wont be gassed by the end of season. They upgraded their bottom 6 with santorelli booth komarov winnink and more they got rid of players like kuli and gunner who were fan fav but havent produced. I hope kuli comes into form with grabo andother fan fav.

Their D has vastly imroved just because of the additions of a Robidas a vet which can steer gards and Reilly in the right direction and maybe even steady Phanef. Added a polak who adds a bit of toughness in the d which theyve been lacking. They have hired some anylitics guys which can only be a good thing going forward also. Changed the coaching staff by adding the assistant coaches that can take over Carlyles job if he doesnt smarten up.

Also if you read my statement i wrote the 4-10 but shouldve been 4-11 can switch bc the east is that even i can see NYI, PHI, CBJ moving up and having a team like NYR TOR, WAS dropping but I dont feel det will crack the top 8 and washington hovering around 7-10 deending on the late season push

Leafs got better from top to bottom IMO. their going to roll 4 lines instead of 3 so top 2 lines wont be gassed by the end of season. They upgraded their bottom 6 with santorelli booth komarov winnink and more they got rid of players like kuli and gunner who were fan fav but havent produced. I hope kuli comes into form with grabo andother fan fav.

Their D has vastly imroved just because of the additions of a Robidas a vet which can steer gards and Reilly in the right direction and maybe even steady Phanef. Added a polak who adds a bit of toughness in the d which theyve been lacking. They have hired some anylitics guys which can only be a good thing going forward also. Changed the coaching staff by adding the assistant coaches that can take over Carlyles job if he doesnt smarten up.

Also if you read my statement i wrote the 4-10 but shouldve been 4-11 can switch bc the east is that even i can see NYI, PHI, CBJ moving up and having a team like NYR TOR, WAS dropping but I dont feel det will crack the top 8 and washington hovering around 7-10 deending on the late season push
- lupul4captain

4 lines huh ill put ottawa,s bottom 6 against yours any day of the week

Everybodies prospect pool /young nhl tallent is the greatest except ottawa they are finishing last

- top shelf 15

Ott should be tanking to get Mcdavid or Eichel both are franchise players that don't come along often. With the prospects OTT already have which are good ones they will be a team not to mess with for years to come

Ott should be tanking to get Mcdavid or Eichel both are franchise players that don't come along often. With the prospects OTT already have which are good ones they will be a team not to mess with for years to come
- lupul4captain

Thats the problem how are we going to tank with the team we have ,it is a 4 line team already .Legwand is slated to be our number 3 center ,our forwards are young in some areas but not tallentless .The defense has some great pieces as well .Cowen ,Ceci,Wiercoch and Ek .Our very young and inexperienced defense took some lumps but should be better for it

4 lines huh ill put ottawa,s bottom 6 against yours any day of the week

- top shelf 15

that's about the only way ottawa would have a chance at making the playoffs...

"come on guys, no top six forwards, it's not faaaaaiiiiiirrrrrrr"

Dats is still rated as the 4th best center in the league, and Zetterberg as the 2nd best left winger.
Babcock will be resigned by Oct 1st.
The prospects pool is great as well.
If they made the playoffs last year with 2nd most games lost to injuries to top 6
forwards, I am not worried about your predictions.
After all, you think the Leafs and Islanders are moving up.
- StargateSG1

Crosby Malkin Toews Getzlaf Seguin Tavares Giroux Kopitar Pavelski and Thornton bergeron all better then Datsyuk and dont get me started with the lw to please

Thats the problem how are we going to tank with the team we have ,it is a 4 line team already .Legwand is slated to be our number 3 center ,our forwards are young in some areas but not tallentless .The defense has some great pieces as well .Cowen ,Ceci,Wiercoch and Ek .Our very young and inexperienced defense took some lumps but should be better for it
- top shelf 15

your team keeps losing players and getting not enough in return. They draft fairly well, but you're in the same spot we've been forever with ownership unwilling/unable to spend the money necessary to compete. You have good goaltending, some nice pieces on defense and up front...you have what can be described as a hot mess.

The only thing that's a sure thing up front is that Bobby Ryan will score 25-30 goals. After that...you could end up with some guys with 60 points, or your next highest could be mid 40's.

There are some good young players there, but expecting them to all step up at the same time and contribute is asking way too much.

that's about the only way ottawa would have a chance at making the playoffs...

"come on guys, no top six forwards, it's not faaaaaiiiiiirrrrrrr"
- Isles_since_6

You ilses fans kill me ,do you not think out of guys like chaisson,stone, zbad,lazar we wont see any growth from these young players??Add in guys like cowen, ceci, wiercoch and EK all of whom are 24 or younger .Plus Lehner .Come on you guys are light years ahead of us no matter how much home you have in you

Crosby Malkin Toews Getzlaf Seguin Tavares Giroux Kopitar Pavelski and Thornton bergeron all better then Datsyuk and dont get me started with the lw to please
- lupul4captain

pavelski? I wouldn't trade datsyuk for him straight up even taking age into account. Thornton isn't better, Bergeron is an all around center but if I'm looking for a top line center between the two I take datsyuk. You should have stopped at Giroux, everyone you listed after him IMO is not as good as datsyuk.

You ilses fans kill me ,do you not think out of guys like chaisson,stone, zbad,lazar we wont see any growth from these young players??Add in guys like cowen, ceci, wiercoch and EK all of whom are 24 or younger .Plus Lehner .Come on you guys are light years ahead of us no matter how much home you have in you
- top shelf 15

In order for you to be competitive you need growth from ALL OF THEM at once. Good luck with that...it almost never happens.

your team keeps losing players and getting not enough in return. They draft fairly well, but you're in the same spot we've been forever with ownership unwilling/unable to spend the money necessary to compete. You have good goaltending, some nice pieces on defense and up front...you have what can be described as a hot mess.

The only thing that's a sure thing up front is that Bobby Ryan will score 25-30 goals. After that...you could end up with some guys with 60 points, or your next highest could be mid 40's.

There are some good young players there, but expecting them to all step up at the same time and contribute is asking way too much.
- Isles_since_6

What players ??Alfie was in his 40,s when he left ,Spezza was a -29 on the very same team Turris facing tougher mins was a +16 .Add to this we added chaisson and legwand 37 and 51 points combined.This spending nonesense will sort itself out ,BM has stated he will resign all three of Macarther,Ryan and methot

What players ??Alfie was in his 40,s when he left ,Spezza was a -29 on the very same team Turris facing tougher mins was a +16 .Add to this we added chaisson and legwand 37 and 51 points combined.This spending nonesense will sort itself out ,BM has stated he will resign all three of Macarther,Ryan and methot

- top shelf 15

In order for you to be competitive you need growth from ALL OF THEM at once. Good luck with that...it almost never happens.
- Isles_since_6

Excuse me ,you are forgetting Turris ,ryan macarther,michalek,legwand ,thats 5, 40 point or better players right there

Leafs got better from top to bottom IMO. their going to roll 4 lines instead of 3 so top 2 lines wont be gassed by the end of season. They upgraded their bottom 6 with santorelli booth komarov winnink and more they got rid of players like kuli and gunner who were fan fav but havent produced. I hope kuli comes into form with grabo andother fan fav.

Their D has vastly imroved just because of the additions of a Robidas a vet which can steer gards and Reilly in the right direction and maybe even steady Phanef. Added a polak who adds a bit of toughness in the d which theyve been lacking. They have hired some anylitics guys which can only be a good thing going forward also. Changed the coaching staff by adding the assistant coaches that can take over Carlyles job if he doesnt smarten up.

Also if you read my statement i wrote the 4-10 but shouldve been 4-11 can switch bc the east is that even i can see NYI, PHI, CBJ moving up and having a team like NYR TOR, WAS dropping but I dont feel det will crack the top 8 and washington hovering around 7-10 deending on the late season push
- lupul4captain

I'll say this....
The Leafs did get better defensively for sure, but still question marks bout F's. Just my opinion but your top 6 is better than avg bc you have JVR & Kessel and the rest depends on health issues? I like lupol but you don't know what your getting year in and year out. Bozak is good but not an ideal 1 or 2C. So besides those extra's I don't know who else is on top 6.

Now your bottom 6 is all question marks. You might have added some players but again depends on health and gelling w/new team also.

The G position is gold, Bernier is a stud. So to me, the leafs are a bubble team like isles. Now that's my opinion, that's all.....

- Isles_since_6

The ilses are going to be a playoff team for sure now

pavelski? I wouldn't trade datsyuk for him straight up even taking age into account. Thornton isn't better, Bergeron is an all around center but if I'm looking for a top line center between the two I take datsyuk. You should have stopped at Giroux, everyone you listed after him IMO is not as good as datsyuk.
- Isles_since_6

Pavelski is 30 and had 79 points you wouldnt trade him for a a 37 year old Bergeron is a beast and the type of heart and soul player you win championships with and is only 29 youd be lucky to trade zett and datsyk to get him

I'll say this....
The Leafs did get better defensively for sure, but still question marks bout F's. Just my opinion but your top 6 is better than avg bc you have JVR & Kessel and the rest depends on health issues? I like lupol but you don't know what your getting year in and year out. Bozak is good but not an ideal 1 or 2C. So besides those extra's I don't know who else is on top 6.

Now your bottom 6 is all question marks. You might have added some players but again depends on health and gelling w/new team also.

The G position is gold, Bernier is a stud. So to me, the leafs are a bubble team like isles. Now that's my opinion, that's all.....
- Ur Not Me

Lets see greening condra smith as our 4th line ,each of then should be good for around 10 to 15 goals each.3rd line has Legwand with a combo of potential wingers such as michalek,stone, chaisson,hoffman or lazar.Yep looks pretty bad to me

Excuse me ,you are forgetting Turris ,ryan macarther,michalek,legwand ,thats 5, 40 point or better players right there
- top shelf 15

Whoa man! Those are some seriously talented top 6 forwards!

Excuse me ,you are forgetting Turris ,ryan macarther,michalek,legwand ,thats 5, 40 point or better players right there
- top shelf 15

Whats the story w/Ryan? Are Sens going to give him his huge payday or be traded bc its his last year? That's a big question mark for your team.

With Spezza gone, Turris will attract the most attention (meaning the whole 1st line). Grant it, I do like your kids and think that Zibby will be very good, but the Sens have health issues with most of there relied upon roster.

Whoa man! Those are some seriously talented top 6 forwards!
- Dgmilazz

You forget that we have a 75 point norris contending defense man along with those decent forwards .

What players ??Alfie was in his 40,s when he left ,Spezza was a -29 on the very same team Turris facing tougher mins was a +16 .Add to this we added chaisson and legwand 37 and 51 points combined.This spending nonesense will sort itself out ,BM has stated he will resign all three of Macarther,Ryan and methot

- top shelf 15

Ott loses top end players thats the problem with your team if you kept all your players Would probably be best team in the league Chara heatly hossa spezza add in the players you have now top team in the east

Whats the story w/Ryan? Are Sens going to give him his huge payday or be traded bc its his last year? That's a big question mark for your team.

With Spezza gone, Turris will attract the most attention (meaning the whole 1st line). Grant it, I do like your kids and think that Zibby will be very good, but the Sens have health issues with most of there relied upon roster.
- Ur Not Me

Like whom ?? Last season Cowen , Ryan ,EK had some issues But they should be good to go now .And as per BM we are in talks with all 3 of our ufa,s .Turris did play as our number 1 last season

Ott loses top end players thats the problem with your team if you kept all your players Would probably be best team in the league Chara heatly hossa spezza add in the players you have now top team in the east
- lupul4captain

Cap was also 39 million a season back then bud

Like whom ?? Last season Cowen , Ryan ,EK had some issues But they should be good to go now .And as per BM we are in talks with all 3 of our ufa,s

- top shelf 15

If I remember correctly, most of your D was injured, G, even Michalek has health issues. That's just off the top of my head?

I def know Karllson was bc he sucked for me last year in fantasy, pissed


U have to keep in mind that losing Spezza and to me not fetching a better return hindered your scoring depth.