and the what for, is the bigger ?
- Flyfreaky

Depends when they trade him. They will not get full value for him right now. Maybe they will wait until some of the season has passed. Maybe the Islanders are struggling. They need to finish as high as possible so yet don't give a good draft pick in this draft class.

Maybe the Trade deadline. Teams are desperate.

Maybe next years free agency period. With a very weak d class teams will be looking to trade for d men.

The odd thing about this "report/speculation" is the line Leddy COULD START the season a Hawk and later get traded.

The hawks must get under by 2.2 mil before game one so the move is pointless.

I will not try to convince anyone about Leddy.

I will say if you match his presnet age with the number of games played you might see you are judging his present resume against players that didn't even make the NHL until later, starting their on the job training at 23.

Leddy is a mailman, so wherever he goes, he carries the puck. Tremendous leg drive and burst.

He has gotten heavier and stronger and has gradually improved his physical work against attackers.
Sure, he is not a finished product, but there is upside, and youth.

You don't get guys this young and experienced in trades unless they are their team's Cap casualty.

There was a reason he was elevated so young, and the idea is to continue up the ladder to replace a top four pair player.
Look at the guys in front and you see why he hasn't.

I wouldn't get too excited yet....unless his agent has himasking 5 million when his deal ends in Spring 2015.
- wiz1901

what's a reasonable asking price for leddy

He's been on the market for a few months now. Sometimes it takes a long time to get a trade. They aren't getting full value trades for him right now. The leafs won't trade him unless they do get a serious offer. We do need him this year. Gardiner and Rielly aren't ready to take on the mins Dion does. I believe he will get traded. Just when is the ?.
- JVR_42_PK81

I agree w/u on him being on the market, but unless Dion lights it up defensively, you will continue to receive bad offers, do you agree on that? Besides his play, his contract does have much to do as well.

The jury is still out on that one bc Bailey was not developed properly and forced onto roster when he should of been in juniors or AHL, etc. A change of scenery would probably regain his confidence bc the kid has skills....
Also Bailey is still young too.
- Ur Not Me

He's been told he is no longer in the isles plans...and have put him on the market.

He's been told he is no longer in the isles plans...and have put him on the market.
- wiz1901

Correct bc of the depth the Isles have now, and that maybe a change of scenery could benefit him...

I agree w/u on him being on the market, but unless Dion lights it up defensively, you will continue to receive bad offers, do you agree on that? Besides his play, his contract does have much to do as well.
- Ur Not Me

Dion was actually putting up a career year defensivly before the meltdown. With Gunnarason as his partner he was practically alone each shift. He played the toughest mins in the NHL and exeled. The last 20 games he played bad defensivly as well as the rest of the team. That really plummeted his value.

He's not a captain. Dion can't lead for poop. But he is a good defensmen. If he had a good partner and he wasn't the captain Dion would exel.

If 30 GM's would disagree then he would of been moved already??? Don't ya think so?? Teams might want to acquire Dion, yes even my team, but with an exception of what is going back, do you agree on that? No team will take on his entire salary plus give up something of high end, sorry but he's not in the upper echelon class of Dmen for teams to go crazy about.
- Ur Not Me

Is an attempt to move him even being made?

Dion to the islanders makes sense. If the price is right.

Nobody is trashing Leddy the reason why no islander would want him is bc the roster and/or prospects that the isles have are very similar style of play to leddy so in fact its not upgrading what the isles really need, a defensive Dman.
Well that's my take on it, I cant speak for my other fans..
- Ur Not Me

Sorry. The "mediocre" comment was from another poster. Not meant to paint you with the same brush.

I see where you are coming from BUT I would also say "similar style" does not always translate into production - which Nick Leddy has already shown. I would not hesitate to add a guy like Leddy to the mix - only makes you richer. I am hoping the Hawks find a way to keep him.

What you could really use is the leadership of a Patrick Sharp!

Is an attempt to move him even being made?
- RogerRoeper

Really????


He's been on the market for a few months now. - a line from 1 of your fellow mates
Lets not turn a deaf ear when most knew that the Leafs were trying to move him bc stripping him of his C while still being on team doesn't bold well for a player & organization.

The odd thing about this "report/speculation" is the line Leddy COULD START the season a Hawk and later get traded.

The hawks must get under by 2.2 mil before game one so the move is pointless.

I will not try to convince anyone about Leddy.

I will say if you match his presnet age with the number of games played you might see you are judging his present resume against players that didn't even make the NHL until later, starting their on the job training at 23.

Leddy is a mailman, so wherever he goes, he carries the puck. Tremendous leg drive and burst.

He has gotten heavier and stronger and has gradually improved his physical work against attackers.
Sure, he is not a finished product, but there is upside, and youth.

You don't get guys this young and experienced in trades unless they are their team's Cap casualty.

There was a reason he was elevated so young, and the idea is to continue up the ladder to replace a top four pair player.
Look at the guys in front and you see why he hasn't.

I wouldn't get too excited yet....unless his agent has himasking 5 million when his deal ends in Spring 2015.
- wiz1901

Thank Wiz. Put it far better than I have.

Dion was actually putting up a career year defensivly before the meltdown. With Gunnarason as his partner he was practically alone each shift. He played the toughest mins in the NHL and exeled. The last 20 games he played bad defensivly as well as the rest of the team. That really plummeted his value.

He's not a captain. Dion can't lead for poop. But he is a good defensmen. If he had a good partner and he wasn't the captain Dion would exel.
- JVR_42_PK81

Your whole team was on fire, but don't know what happened as the season prolonged but regardless if Dion started off great its how you finish what matters most bc the season is long and grueling.

Really????


He's been on the market for a few months now. - a line from 1 of your fellow mates
Lets not turn a deaf ear when most knew that the Leafs were trying to move him bc stripping him of his C while still being on team doesn't bold well for a player & organization.
- Ur Not Me

He's on the market but they are in no rush to trade him.

what's a reasonable asking price for leddy
- Flyfreaky

That's difficult to say because the Blackhawks cannot take in high Cap player, and trading Leddy would mean they are confident the farm prospects can come in and play the minutes but not as the same type of player.

There isn't a defenseman who plays as a regular on the Flyers making as little money, so from that standpoint he adds a up-ice dimension they may not have enough of.

There really isn't a interesting Flyer forward who make less either.

If the hawks don't have a solid run at Lord Stanley's Cup next spring, I think in a year, the hawks may be forced into dumping both Sharp and Leddy in order to bring in youngsters and have Cap flexibility.

Sharp's 5.9 million and Leddy's RFA deal (which will have to exceed the present 2.7 Million by a bit to keep him happy) would allow the hawks to shop are around for a younger player who is signed long term and makes less than Sharp but has upside and maybe a attribute the present club is lacking.

I just think the Toews Kane deals force forward thinking and the idea of getting a return that keeps the line-up strong might take patience and not implusively dumping Leddy for little long term return.

Why ? He signed and he would have to take backward development to have him viewed in the way DelZotto is...a guy who can't understand or handle the defense end with regularity. Leddy can. And the growth shows.

They will get Cap complient with a trade or drop of a lesser light than even Leddy or to someone on waviers and send a vet contract down...if necessary...they did it in the past (Huet) , it is just money.

I don't think there is panic to give away young talent.

Sorry. The "mediocre" comment was from another poster. Not meant to paint you with the same brush.

I see where you are coming from BUT I would also say "similar style" does not always translate into production - which Nick Leddy has already shown. I would not hesitate to add a guy like Leddy to the mix - only makes you richer. I am hoping the Hawks find a way to keep him.

What you could really use is the leadership of a Patrick Sharp!



- tredbrta

I like Sharp but rather have a younger player to play w/JT. Plus I rather not part w/whatever it might cost to get him, sorry just my opinion....

what's a reasonable asking price for leddy
- Flyfreaky

That is one of the difficult things about Leddy - how to value him. He is a 1st rounder and proven at the NHL level but held back by having 4 solid players in front of him. The league knows the Hawks need to shed salary and they hate Leddy's agent (Neil Sheehy).

As a 1st rounder and one of the better skaters in the league he should be worth a 30 year old 2C but you have to account for the other factors. That is why I threw out Leddy and a pick for Nielsen.

I believe the Hawks may regret trading him if he is dealt. He may never be a defensive stopper but a solid PP point and could be a top pairing guy for many teams. See where he is in 3 years.

He's on the market but they are in no rush to trade him.
- JVR_42_PK81

We both agreed on that, and the no rush is bc of probably the bad offers being received?

I like Sharp but rather have a younger player to play w/JT. Plus I rather not part w/whatever it might cost to get him, sorry just my opinion....
- Ur Not Me

Agree on age. He would be a positive factor for your locker room though. He mentored Kane thru his difficulties (among others). Sharp also may end up going for cheap due to the cap need. Nabbing a 40 goal scorer and captain material with 2 rings for say a high pick and prospect would be a steal for Garth.

Really????


He's been on the market for a few months now. - a line from 1 of your fellow mates
Lets not turn a deaf ear when most knew that the Leafs were trying to move him bc stripping him of his C while still being on team doesn't bold well for a player & organization.
- Ur Not Me

Based on Eklund's blogs. Who knows if any of this is true.

again, his decline/lack of passion is just my personal opinion

he might play a more passionate game if he was on a winning team playing for the cup, which would make him a great fit for the islanders
- Flyfreaky

Whaaaaaaat?

That's difficult to say because the Blackhawks cannot take in high Cap player, and trading Leddy would mean they are confident the farm prospects can come in and play the minutes but not as the same type of player.

There isn't a defenseman who plays as a regular on the Flyers making as little money, so from that standpoint he adds a up-ice dimension they may not have enough of.

There really isn't a interesting Flyer forward who make less either.

If the hawks don't have a solid run at Lord Stanley's Cup next spring, I think in a year, the hawks may be forced into dumping both Sharp and Leddy in order to bring in youngsters and have Cap flexibility.

Sharp's 5.9 million and Leddy's RFA deal (which will have to exceed the present 2.7 Million by a bit to keep him happy) would allow the hawks to shop are around for a younger player who is signed long term and makes less than Sharp but has upside and maybe a attribute the present club is lacking.

I just think the Toews Kane deals force forward thinking and the idea of getting a return that keeps the line-up strong might take patience and not implusively dumping Leddy for little long term return.

Why ? He signed and he would have to take backward development to have him viewed in the way DelZotto is...a guy who can't understand or handle the defense end with regularity. Leddy can. And the growth shows.

They will get Cap complient with a trade or drop of a lesser light than even Leddy or to someone on waviers and send a vet contract down...if necessary...they did it in the past (Huet) , it is just money.

I don't think there is panic to give away young talent.
- wiz1901

Hey Wiz, what do you think Leddy warrants in pick/s. Would he bring back a high first rounder at this stage or less?

That's difficult to say because the Blackhawks cannot take in high Cap player, and trading Leddy would mean they are confident the farm prospects can come in and play the minutes but not as the same type of player.

There isn't a defenseman who plays as a regular on the Flyers making as little money, so from that standpoint he adds a up-ice dimension they may not have enough of.

There really isn't a interesting Flyer forward who make less either.

If the hawks don't have a solid run at Lord Stanley's Cup next spring, I think in a year, the hawks may be forced into dumping both Sharp and Leddy in order to bring in youngsters and have Cap flexibility.

Sharp's 5.9 million and Leddy's RFA deal (which will have to exceed the present 2.7 Million by a bit to keep him happy) would allow the hawks to shop are around for a younger player who is signed long term and makes less than Sharp but has upside and maybe a attribute the present club is lacking.

I just think the Toews Kane deals force forward thinking and the idea of getting a return that keeps the line-up strong might take patience and not implusively dumping Leddy for little long term return.

Why ? He signed and he would have to take backward development to have him viewed in the way DelZotto is...a guy who can't understand or handle the defense end with regularity. Leddy can. And the growth shows.

They will get Cap complient with a trade or drop of a lesser light than even Leddy or to someone on waviers and send a vet contract down...if necessary...they did it in the past (Huet) , it is just money.

I don't think there is panic to give away young talent.
- wiz1901

leddy would be a nice pick-up for philly, but too many issues with cap for both teams

Agree on age. He would be a positive factor for your locker room though. He mentored Kane thru his difficulties (among others). Sharp also may end up going for cheap due to the cap need. Nabbing a 40 goal scorer and captain material with 2 rings for say a high pick and prospect would be a steal for Garth.
- tredbrta

The only concern for me about Sharp is that last season started on fire and the 2nd half disappeared. Is he going to continue that trend? Is the real concern on him.

Whaaaaaaat?
- djamon

Is an attempt to move him even being made?
- RogerRoeper

Nonis has been clear on this...he'd move anyone if it improved the team. But he has also said that he has never tried to move Dion, or put him on the market.