I don't think so. I think they'll run with the kids.
- Michael_Stuart

fair enough, whats the call up situation down in the AHL? Still lots of depth?

I don't think so. I think they'll run with the kids.
- Michael_Stuart

Preach it preacher!!!!!'

fair enough, whats the call up situation down in the AHL? Still lots of depth?
- DDM-Coga

Namestnikov, Gourde, Ikonen.

Namestnikov, Gourde, Ikonen.
- Artyukhin76

ah just was wondering bc I was looking at the 2014 draft and noticed you guys went with 3 D for your 1st and 2nds. I like what you are building down south

ah just was wondering bc I was looking at the 2014 draft and noticed you guys went with 3 D for your 1st and 2nds. I like what you are building down south
- DDM-Coga

Namestnikov is a good third line center. Ikonen, in my opinion could be Palat 2.0

Namestnikov is a good third line center. Ikonen, in my opinion could be Palat 2.0
- Artyukhin76

Paquette also played good at the end of last year. He's a good 4th line guy. Kunyk, Paradis could also be call ups in my opinion

Paquette also played good at the end of last year. He's a good 4th line guy. Kunyk, Paradis could also be call ups in my opinion
- TBolts4

Yep.

Take it from a Rangers fan, if youre relying on Boyle to score for you, then youre missing the point. However on the defensive end, especially in special teams, youre getting a guy that can win faceoffs and will throw his body in front of everything. Hes a frustrating player to watch as he has no possession skills, and plays with the body of someone who is 5'6, but he will leave it all on the ice, and you might want his head as some point, but youll learn to love the guy for being suicidal.
- aecliptic

I hope no NHL team has to rely on a 4th line center to score for them

I like that. We need some more of those guys. Having Callahan last year even for not even 1/2 a season you could tell his attitude spread around a lot. By the years end, guys like alex killorn and tyler johnson were sticking up for each other and getting into peoples faces when they started bullpoop after whistles or whatever it may be. I loved every second of it, and I hope boyle can spread some more of that. We lacked it last season until callahan came, then you could really see a difference..

I mean I'm not someone who is for unnessesary fighting or anything, but there were a few too many (way too many) times last season where nobody had a set of balls to do anything that really did need to be adressed. For instance when prust and bishop got into it, are you serious hedman? you grab prust? thats it? congratulations man, (frank) that.. Kick that (frank)ers ass, he just messed with your goalie ! I don't know where you guys played or if you played but it doesn't even matter, everyone knows the goalie is not to be (frank)ed with ! Or you are going to get messed up!

With Ohlund on LTIR I get it to fit without any problems.

Something like...

Drouin-Stamkos-Callahan
Palat-Filppula-Connolly
Killorn-Johnson-Brown
Morrow-Boyle-Panik
Kucherov

Hedman-Garrison
Carle-Stralman
Brewer-Gudas
Barberio

Bishop
Nabokov
- Michael_Stuart

Pretty similar, but a few tweeks.

2014-2015 Lightning

Drouin-3.194 Stamkos-7.5 Connolly-.851
Palat-3.334 Filppula-5 Callahan-5.8
Killorn-2.55Johnson-3.334 Kucherov-.9
Morrow-1.55 Boyle-2 Panik-.735
Brown-.95
37.689

Hedman-4 Garrison-4.6
Carle-5.5 Stralman-4.5
Brewer-3.875 Gudas-.993
Barberio-.874 Sustr-.874
25.216

Bishop-2.3
Nabokov-1.55
3.85

Other
Buyout 1.167
LTIR 3.607
Retained 1.6
6.367

73.122

Boyle said he talked to Callahan prior to signing here. His wife being from Orlando area probably helped as well.
- TBolts4

Ya I have to thing Callahan was a major factor in getting Boyle and stralman

I hope no NHL team has to rely on a 4th line center to score for them

I like that. We need some more of those guys. Having Callahan last year even for not even 1/2 a season you could tell his attitude spread around a lot. By the years end, guys like alex killorn and tyler johnson were sticking up for each other and getting into peoples faces when they started bullpoop after whistles or whatever it may be. I loved every second of it, and I hope boyle can spread some more of that. We lacked it last season until callahan came, then you could really see a difference..

I mean I'm not someone who is for unnessesary fighting or anything, but there were a few too many (way too many) times last season where nobody had a set of balls to do anything that really did need to be adressed. For instance when prust and bishop got into it, are you serious hedman? you grab prust? thats it? congratulations man, (frank) that.. Kick that (frank)ers ass, he just messed with your goalie ! I don't know where you guys played or if you played but it doesn't even matter, everyone knows the goalie is not to be (frank)ed with ! Or you are going to get messed up!
- RileyB77

Boyle will push back. The issue is if his gloves fall off he ends up turning into a 6'7'' skating punching bag.

Someone said it a few posts earlier, you will love Boyle for what he is (a shot-blocking machine that wins a ton of defensive zone faceoffs). If you expect anything else, he will frustrate you to the worlds end. For such a big guy, you would want him plastering people to the boards; but he just doesn't do it enough. He will hit, but as hard as one his size should. He has some shooting skills and strength to the net, but he just doesn't use it enough.

Boyle is a confusing player to root for, but if you accept him as a 4th liner that will stop as many shots as your goalie, then you are in for a treat.

Wish him the best.

Boyle will push back. The issue is if his gloves fall off he ends up turning into a 6'7'' skating punching bag.

Someone said it a few posts earlier, you will love Boyle for what he is (a shot-blocking machine that wins a ton of defensive zone faceoffs). If you expect anything else, he will frustrate you to the worlds end. For such a big guy, you would want him plastering people to the boards; but he just doesn't do it enough. He will hit, but as hard as one his size should. He has some shooting skills and strength to the net, but he just doesn't use it enough.

Boyle is a confusing player to root for, but if you accept him as a 4th liner that will stop as many shots as your goalie, then you are in for a treat.

Wish him the best.
- mames11

That's all I expect from him. I was just sad to see Thompson go

Elliotte Friedman had him 5th. Wasn't just the local guys who liked him.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports-...ryan-getzlaf-for-mvp.html

I don't think he deserved to win it, but I was just trying to highlight that he's far from a defensive liability.
- Michael_Stuart

This

Boyle said he wanted a larger role with the rangers in the 2014-2015 season. next thing he does is sign with tampa where he will be...a 4th line center who can win faceoffs and kill penalties?
- Why So Serious

Rags had serious cap issues which I'm sure played a role. They had so many RFA and UFA with a high priced core already there that the depth/role player portion of the roster was certainly going to see significant turnover. Sather did fairly well to manage but there was no way everyone was coming back.

I'm not sure Boyle's role played a role whatsoever in this decision. If I had to venture a guess I would say the Bolts going 3 years was the deciding factor but that is purely my opinion

No thye didn't. I can't use that for the Rangers side of things either. Tampa got both Boyle are Stralman because they were willing to pay them most
- tomburton99

Umm actually both Boyle and Stralman talked with Calahan before making the decision to sign in Tampa.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=725690

Boyle will push back. The issue is if his gloves fall off he ends up turning into a 6'7'' skating punching bag.

Someone said it a few posts earlier, you will love Boyle for what he is (a shot-blocking machine that wins a ton of defensive zone faceoffs). If you expect anything else, he will frustrate you to the worlds end. For such a big guy, you would want him plastering people to the boards; but he just doesn't do it enough. He will hit, but as hard as one his size should. He has some shooting skills and strength to the net, but he just doesn't use it enough.

Boyle is a confusing player to root for, but if you accept him as a 4th liner that will stop as many shots as your goalie, then you are in for a treat.

Wish him the best.
- mames11

We had Crombeen for a few years so we are more than used to seeing a punching bag posing as a hockey fighter

Umm actually both Boyle and Stralman talked with Calahan before making the decision to sign in Tampa.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=725690
- uf1910

Facts are not welcome here.

Rags had serious cap issues which I'm sure played a role. They had so many RFA and UFA with a high priced core already there that the depth/role player portion of the roster was certainly going to see significant turnover. Sather did fairly well to manage but there was no way everyone was coming back.

I'm not sure Boyle's role played a role whatsoever in this decision. If I had to venture a guess I would say the Bolts going 3 years was the deciding factor but that is purely my opinion
- uf1910

you're right: the bottom line is "who is going to pay me more and how long will they continue to pay me?" boyle ran his course in NY and the rangers gave him a contract based on one 20+ goal season. i wish they would have traded him when his value was at its highest, even though he did have a few playoff moments.

Facts are not welcome here.
- Michael_Stuart

My bad Mike. I'll try to do better next time

Umm actually both Boyle and Stralman talked with Calahan before making the decision to sign in Tampa.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=725690
- uf1910

Any player would do this. There is nothing special or unique about this situation. Most players will do their due diligence when moving on from their current team. No where in this article did Boyle or Stralman say "I chose the Lihi for the chance to play with Callahan again"

It was was dollars and term that determined where they were going to sign

Any player would do this. There is nothing special or unique about this situation. Most players will do their due diligence when moving on from their current team. No where in this article did Boyle or Stralman say "I chose the Lihi for the chance to play with Callahan again"

It was was dollars and term that determined where they were going to sign
- climbdenali12

So are you arguing that Calahan's choice to re-sign in Tampa BEFORE free agency had nothing to do with the Lightning organization? Consequently are you then arguing that Boyle and/or Stralman didn't respect their once captain's advice when they asked him not only about his choice to sign in Tampa?

I wasn't arguing that they chose to sign in Tampa b/c of Calahan, or maybe you missed that. I merely said it was a factor which is exactly what the article was pointing out.

Of course they got $ they are happy with. First off they CHOSE to sign the contract. I won't even argue to "highest offer" crap b/c you nor anyone outside of Yzerman, the agents, or the players know who offered what to who so please don't pretend that you do. Free agents have the right to choose where they sign, that is what the basis of free agency is. Some players don't necessarily take the highest $ b/c they want to go to a winning organization. Others choose based on location. In some cases the market dictates as players don't get the deal they are looking for and end up taking 1 year flier type deals to try and build up a better market the following season. Basically each situation is different. Again, I'm not going to argue the monetary facet of each player's decision to sign in Tampa. Nor am I trying to draw a comparison between NY and Tampa. But don't be stupid and try and invent an argument that each player didn't respect the advice of a leader they respected during their time in NY who himself had chosen (BEFORE FREE AGENCY AND THUS QUITE POSSIBLY BEFORE HE RECEIVED THE HIGHEST OFFER) to sign in Tampa. First off that is doing a disservice to Calahan and also a disservice to his time with the Rangers, after all he was their captain and he didn't get to wear the C b/c they didn't respect him

Any player would do this. There is nothing special or unique about this situation. Most players will do their due diligence when moving on from their current team. No where in this article did Boyle or Stralman say "I chose the Lihi for the chance to play with Callahan again"

It was was dollars and term that determined where they were going to sign
- climbdenali12

I disagree you know they called callahan and asked about the city owner coaches etc.. this is the nhl players can get term and money with a lot of teams.

So are you arguing that Calahan's choice to re-sign in Tampa BEFORE free agency had nothing to do with the Lightning organization? Consequently are you then arguing that Boyle and/or Stralman didn't respect their once captain's advice when they asked him not only about his choice to sign in Tampa?

I wasn't arguing that they chose to sign in Tampa b/c of Calahan, or maybe you missed that. I merely said it was a factor which is exactly what the article was pointing out.

Of course they got $ they are happy with. First off they CHOSE to sign the contract. I won't even argue to "highest offer" crap b/c you nor anyone outside of Yzerman, the agents, or the players know who offered what to who so please don't pretend that you do. Free agents have the right to choose where they sign, that is what the basis of free agency is. Some players don't necessarily take the highest $ b/c they want to go to a winning organization. Others choose based on location. In some cases the market dictates as players don't get the deal they are looking for and end up taking 1 year flier type deals to try and build up a better market the following season. Basically each situation is different. Again, I'm not going to argue the monetary facet of each player's decision to sign in Tampa. Nor am I trying to draw a comparison between NY and Tampa. But don't be stupid and try and invent an argument that each player didn't respect the advice of a leader they respected during their time in NY who himself had chosen (BEFORE FREE AGENCY AND THUS QUITE POSSIBLY BEFORE HE RECEIVED THE HIGHEST OFFER) to sign in Tampa. First off that is doing a disservice to Calahan and also a disservice to his time with the Rangers, after all he was their captain and he didn't get to wear the C b/c they didn't respect him
- uf1910

So are you arguing that Calahan's choice to re-sign in Tampa BEFORE free agency had nothing to do with the Lightning organization? Consequently are you then arguing that Boyle and/or Stralman didn't respect their once captain's advice when they asked him not only about his choice to sign in Tampa?

I wasn't arguing that they chose to sign in Tampa b/c of Calahan, or maybe you missed that. I merely said it was a factor which is exactly what the article was pointing out.

Of course they got $ they are happy with. First off they CHOSE to sign the contract. I won't even argue to "highest offer" crap b/c you nor anyone outside of Yzerman, the agents, or the players know who offered what to who so please don't pretend that you do. Free agents have the right to choose where they sign, that is what the basis of free agency is. Some players don't necessarily take the highest $ b/c they want to go to a winning organization. Others choose based on location. In some cases the market dictates as players don't get the deal they are looking for and end up taking 1 year flier type deals to try and build up a better market the following season. Basically each situation is different. Again, I'm not going to argue the monetary facet of each player's decision to sign in Tampa. Nor am I trying to draw a comparison between NY and Tampa. But don't be stupid and try and invent an argument that each player didn't respect the advice of a leader they respected during their time in NY who himself had chosen (BEFORE FREE AGENCY AND THUS QUITE POSSIBLY BEFORE HE RECEIVED THE HIGHEST OFFER) to sign in Tampa. First off that is doing a disservice to Calahan and also a disservice to his time with the Rangers, after all he was their captain and he didn't get to wear the C b/c they didn't respect him
- uf1910

Nope, simply stated that this situation is neither special nor unique. Imo this type of interaction between players is commonplace and is not something that adds to or detracts from an 'argument.' Also, no need to call me stupid.

I disagree you know they called callahan and asked about the city owner coaches etc.. this is the nhl players can get term and money with a lot of teams.
- todd1a

Boyle probably talked to Prust in Montreal and Dubinsky in Columbus. From what I saw as a fan he was much tighter with those guys. If all things were equal (and I'm well aware they are not) I bet he would have chosen to play with Prust again.