I say on my arse and didn't do much of anything.

When does Sabres camp start? Has a preseason game schedule been released. I need some hockey and winter. Work sucks in the summer
- SabresFaninIndiana

The first pre season game is Sept. 21st at Washington.

The first pre season game is Sept. 21st at Washington.
- mhp

Too long of a wait

The first pre season game is Sept. 21st at Washington.
- mhp

Thanks. I hope they televise a game or two of the preseason. I am interested to see how some of these guys are developing.

Thanks. I hope they televise a game or two of the preseason. I am interested to see how some of these guys are developing.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Maybe they'll televise the home and home with Toronto on the 26th and 28th.

Too long of a wait
- Herzeleid

I wonder if the Sabres will extend camp invites to any of the UFA's that haven't signed yet.

I do not understand why a driver would accelerate when a wreck has occurred and be driving toward the wreck instead of to the bottom of the track

2 years from now the blame will be on the driver for walking on the track instead of staying in his car, but geez where does common sense need to happen from the drivers in cars
- homiedclown

I don't know.

I do know that when a crash occurs, and the crash object is moving, race car drivers are supposed to drive directly at the crash because, in theory, it won't be there when you finally get to where the crash is (finally is the wrong word because it happens so fast). I hope I'm making sense. I know the car was stationary, but Ward was moving. Ward looked like he was moving a bit erratically, too, and kinda looked like he didn't know which way he ultimately wanted to go, and he was wearing black.

Perhaps Stewart got into "normal race car crash mode". I mean, Stewart's a d!ck, from what I've heard, but I can't imagine he did it on purpose.

That being said, I feel for Ward's family. That video chilled me to the bone, listening to the reactions from all the spectators. Just horrible.


Edit: re-watching the video, Ward was confronting Stewart and pointing at him, as it was Stewart who hit his vehicle in the first place.

I wonder if the Sabres will extend camp invites to any of the UFA's that haven't signed yet.
- mhp

I wonder if they even have room on their roster.

I wonder if they even have room on their roster.
- grand-magus

I hear what you're saying but they could still invite a few vets to take a look.

edit-looked at the ufa list, not worth it.

Phil!!

I don't know.

I do know that when a crash occurs, and the crash object is moving, race car drivers are supposed to drive directly at the crash because, in theory, it won't be there when you finally get to where the crash is (finally is the wrong word because it happens so fast). I hope I'm making sense. I know the car was stationary, but Ward was moving. Ward looked like he was moving a bit erratically, too, and kinda looked like he didn't know which way he ultimately wanted to go, and he was wearing black.

Perhaps Stewart got into "normal race car crash mode". I mean, Stewart's a d!ck, from what I've heard, but I can't imagine he did it on purpose.

That being said, I feel for Ward's family. That video chilled me to the bone, listening to the reactions from all the spectators. Just horrible.


Edit: re-watching the video, Ward was confronting Stewart and pointing at him, as it was Stewart who hit his vehicle in the first place.
- grand-magus

To me, it seems like there was bad blood between them prior (Stewart forced him into the rail/wall). It makes no sense that Stewart would somehow be unable to avoid Ward. The car in front of Stewart did it with ease, and Stewart had around 2 seconds to do the exact same thing, but instead revved his engine and swerved TOWARD the kid. It just is a nonsensical thing to do, in my eyes.

I really do just feel awful about the whole situation though. Nobody, especially someone who is still practically a kid, should die like that. There is fault on both sides, but Stewart's actions were suspiciously miscalculated IMO.

To me, it seems like there was bad blood between them prior (Stewart forced him into the rail/wall). It makes no sense that Stewart would somehow be unable to avoid Ward. The car in front of Stewart did it with ease, and Stewart had around 2 seconds to do the exact same thing, but instead revved his engine and swerved TOWARD the kid. It just is a nonsensical thing to do, in my eyes.

I really do just feel awful about the whole situation though. Nobody, especially someone who is still practically a kid, should die like that. There is fault on both sides, but Stewart's actions were suspiciously miscalculated IMO.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

Not saying Stewart was in the right. But I don't walk up to a man with a gun and slap him for a reason.

To me, it seems like there was bad blood between them prior (Stewart forced him into the rail/wall). It makes no sense that Stewart would somehow be unable to avoid Ward. The car in front of Stewart did it with ease, and Stewart had around 2 seconds to do the exact same thing, but instead revved his engine and swerved TOWARD the kid. It just is a nonsensical thing to do, in my eyes.

I really do just feel awful about the whole situation though. Nobody, especially someone who is still practically a kid, should die like that. There is fault on both sides, but Stewart's actions were suspiciously miscalculated IMO.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

It's a video of a race, you don't know which car(s) were making the sound of the engine revving.

I've only seen one video of it, and it was pretty poor, but to say Stewart had 2 seconds to react differently than he did is probably not quite accurate.

My guess (again, bad video, but putting it into a "real world" type of scenario) is that when the person in front of him moved to avoid the guy, it opened up a visual of what was ahead and it was a frantic reaction of the wheel.

It's a video of a race, you don't know which car(s) were making the sound of the engine revving.

I've only seen one video of it, and it was pretty poor, but to say Stewart had 2 seconds to react differently than he did is probably not quite accurate.

My guess (again, bad video, but putting it into a "real world" type of scenario) is that when the person in front of him moved to avoid the guy, it opened up a visual of what was ahead and it was a frantic reaction of the wheel.
- stashu

Monday-morning quarterback says different

It's a video of a race, you don't know which car(s) were making the sound of the engine revving.

I've only seen one video of it, and it was pretty poor, but to say Stewart had 2 seconds to react differently than he did is probably not quite accurate.

My guess (again, bad video, but putting it into a "real world" type of scenario) is that when the person in front of him moved to avoid the guy, it opened up a visual of what was ahead and it was a frantic reaction of the wheel.
- stashu

The time between the car in front of Stewart reaching Ward, and Stewart himself reaching Ward was right at 2 seconds, which is actually a quite decent amount of time for a very notable professional driver to react. With the way that the back end kicked out (that's what happens when you gun it in a sprint car), the sound itself, and the fact that all of the other cars were supposed to be slowing down under the caution flag, that tells me pretty clearly that Stewart revved his engine.

Not saying Stewart was in the right. But I don't walk up to a man with a gun and slap him for a reason.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Careful. Someone might accuse you of "blaming the victim".

The time between the car in front of Stewart reaching Ward, and Stewart himself reaching Ward was right at 2 seconds, which is actually a quite decent amount of time for a very notable professional driver to react. With the way that the back end kicked out (that's what happens when you gun it in a sprint car), the sound itself, and the fact that all of the other cars were supposed to be slowing down under the caution flag, that tells me pretty clearly that Stewart revved his engine.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

No way it could have been in a car not in the lens of the camera ? That is an awful harsh accusation . Basically he killed the guy on purpose ? There was a gopro camera supposedly in Stewart's car . Police have impounded the car. I will wait for their findings myself.

Phil!!
- mhp

His eagle putt at 10 (I think) lipping out ended up being the real difference. Rory made his (although it was much easier because of that mammoth 2nd shot).

No way it could have been in a car not in the lens of the camera ? That is an awful harsh accusation . Basically he killed the guy on purpose ? There was a gopro camera supposedly in Stewart's car . Police have impounded the car. I will wait for their findings myself.
- Maximum Signal

I'm not so sure the camera will necessarily tell you anything affirmative or negative. Even if the guy is in plain sight, we have no idea what direction Stewart was looking (even if his head is straight ahead, his eyes theoretically could have been looking in a different direction, and a lawyer would be sure to point that out).

To me, it seems like there was bad blood between them prior (Stewart forced him into the rail/wall). It makes no sense that Stewart would somehow be unable to avoid Ward. The car in front of Stewart did it with ease, and Stewart had around 2 seconds to do the exact same thing, but instead revved his engine and swerved TOWARD the kid. It just is a nonsensical thing to do, in my eyes.

I really do just feel awful about the whole situation though. Nobody, especially someone who is still practically a kid, should die like that. There is fault on both sides, but Stewart's actions were suspiciously miscalculated IMO.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I wonder if he tried to just swerve at him to scare him, perhaps, if there was bad blood? How do you prove it though, ya know?

No way it could have been in a car not in the lens of the camera ? That is an awful harsh accusation . Basically he killed the guy on purpose ? There was a gopro camera supposedly in Stewart's car . Police have impounded the car. I will wait for their findings myself.
- Maximum Signal

I'm not completely dismissing possibilities, just saying what I think.

I wonder if he tried to just swerve at him to scare him, perhaps, if there was bad blood? How do you prove it though, ya know?
- grand-magus

Honestly, that's what I'm leaning toward.

Honestly, that's what I'm leaning toward.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

If they can prove that, I would think they could charge him with involuntary manslaughter, perhaps?

If they can prove that, I would think they could charge him with involuntary manslaughter, perhaps?
- grand-magus

I would think so. Either way, he should be charged with something, at least a minor charge, even if it was an accident.

I am sure Paulina could pass a piss test too.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Yea but she doesn't lose modeling gigs or get suspended from her job or lose sponsorships b/c of it. Also, she's not (frank)ing PGA players wives, or maybe.... nevermind.

"I’m someone whose worked in hockey my entire life that over the past number of years has begun to develop a usefulness for analytics. It’s been a big help to us (in Saulte St. Marie) in reducing uncertainty and just gathering more information.

"You can kind of reach and track a bunch of different things that aren’t really mainstream yet and I think it all has value,” Dubas said. “It’s just a matter of … trying to find out which pieces of data can help us to eliminate uncertainty and which ones are maybe not what we thought they were.”


I find this to be the key value in analytics for hockey. I get that most people are either very against it or so for it to the point where it's nauseating but I like the value it brings in regards to eliminating un certainty.

It's not the end all be all of building a winner, but it can't hurt to gather more valuable info before making a decision.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't think it eliminates much uncertainty about players. The coach and teammates have a very large influence on an individual's performance.

What is necessary for advanced stats to be more useful is constant re-examination and refinement. This is ESPECIALLY true in circumstances where they have failed. It is important to understand why, and adjust the theories and models for that.

Currently, someone who does not believe the current advanced stats tell us very much is simply ridiculed and told they are too stupid to understand. When the stats do fail, the explanation is simply "luck".

The proponents need to do better than that or the stats won't improve or evolve.