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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Aug 7 @ 9:22 PM ET
Geno is a way better PKer than Sid. In his games for Russia he is one of the top guys, he's created havoc every time he's been allowed to do it for us too. Sid doesn't look anywhere near as natural out there as Geno does.
- cygnus41


This is debatable.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 7 @ 9:42 PM ET
When Geno is ON he turns Mario like and looks like the best player in the world.


"debatable" as well lol
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 7 @ 10:16 PM ET
Most centers in history that were considered elite killed penalties.

From what I have seen, 71 is better than 87 on the PK. For whatever reason, 87 looks kind of outta sorts on the PK.

Its kind of a bummer we have 2 elite centers that don't kill penalties consistently.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 10:23 PM ET
Geno is a way better PKer than Sid. In his games for Russia he is one of the top guys, he's created havoc every time he's been allowed to do it for us too. Sid doesn't look anywhere near as natural out there as Geno does.
- cygnus41


Seriously comparing games in Russia to the NHL? Euro isn't nearly as physical as the NHL. Bump Malkin in the corner after a play and he takes a dumb penalty and shuts down.

During the cup years Z and Datsyuk were usually on part of the PK. They were pretty good at it as I recall.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 7 @ 10:36 PM ET
Seriously comparing games in Russia to the NHL? Euro isn't nearly as physical as the NHL. Bump Malkin in the corner after a play and he takes a dumb penalty and shuts down.

During the cup years Z and Datsyuk were usually on part of the PK. They were pretty good at it as I recall.

- sammy87

I'd give Crosby and Malkin some PK time sporadically. I don't wanna see one of them getting shut down for 3-4 months due to a broken foot.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Aug 7 @ 10:50 PM ET
I'd give Crosby and Malkin some PK time sporadically. I don't wanna see one of them getting shut down for 3-4 months due to a broken foot.
- Barnaby36


Screw it, top PP unit is now Crosby Malkin Martin and Letang. We no longer kill penalties in our end.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Aug 7 @ 10:56 PM ET
I did the numbers many blogs ago, but Sid and Geno both played on the PK far more often before Sid had his concussions and before he got hit in the face.

Doesn't mean it wouldn't pay dividends, especially in certain situations, but I understand the fear.

No matter what, Goc/Sutter/Spaling/Dupuis is a pretty nice PK foursome to lean on, and if they're the core group there's less reason to dress Adams.

Interesting Adams stat - he was 34th on the team in even strength time on ice per game, behind call ups like Drazenovic, Ebbett, and Zolnierczyk.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 7 @ 10:57 PM ET
Screw it, top PP unit is now Crosby Malkin Martin and Letang. We no longer kill penalties in our end.
- stackthepads

Damn this thing is boring right now. Not much to talk about.

We should give Ryan sugestions for new blogs..
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 8 @ 12:05 AM ET
I did the numbers many blogs ago, but Sid and Geno both played on the PK far more often before Sid had his concussions and before he got hit in the face.

Doesn't mean it wouldn't pay dividends, especially in certain situations, but I understand the fear.

No matter what, Goc/Sutter/Spaling/Dupuis is a pretty nice PK foursome to lean on, and if they're the core group there's less reason to dress Adams.

Interesting Adams stat - he was 34th on the team in even strength time on ice per game, behind call ups like Drazenovic, Ebbett, and Zolnierczyk.

- hardnosed


Thats even more sad that he was so noticeably bad given he wasnt on the ice for a lot of minutes.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 8 @ 12:07 AM ET
I'm starting to think the joy was lost in it. That team you can see they're out there really enjoying themselves. THe past couple playoffs they've looked so uptight.
Hopefully the fresh faces in the locker room and a new coach can rejuvinate this team.

- stackthepads


I really hope thats the effect of all the change that's happened. Would be nice if he had more guys up from the AHL though. They always play their tails off....we just dont have the talent down there right now..
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 8 @ 12:42 AM ET
Damn this thing is boring right now. Not much to talk about.

We should give Ryan sugestions for new blogs..

- Barnaby36


I enjoy the Q and A blogs. Still able to generate some interesting topics during the off season.

stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Aug 8 @ 1:48 AM ET
Here's something to debate. Whats the pens all time PP look like?

Heres mine:

Crosby Mario Jagr
Coffey Francis
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Aug 8 @ 1:50 AM ET
Also no one mentioned Sids bday today.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 8 @ 1:58 AM ET
Also no one mentioned Sids bday today.
- stackthepads

Huge fail here. 8/7/87.... How could everyone forget about it? And we complain teammates don't stick up for him... Shame on all of you!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 8 @ 2:31 AM ET
Damn this thing is boring right now. Not much to talk about.

We should give Ryan sugestions for new blogs..

- Barnaby36


You're telling me. I'm so bored I just created an all-time Mighty Ducks roster from the trilogy on NHL 14. It was actually somewhat difficult to figure out since they only had three actual defensemen over the course of the trilogy and Bombay only rolls out 3 lines. I had to relegate Russ Tyler to the blue line and use those scrubs from D1 that didn't make the cut for Team U.S.A. in D2 to make it all work. Now, if only I can figure out how to program Dwayne Robertson's lasso into the game...

Anyways, happy birthday Crosby. Stop getting old. You have about three more cups to win before you end your prime.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 8 @ 6:09 AM ET
downie-sid-kunitz
horn-malkin-sutter
duper-goc-bennett
comeau-spaling-payerl/adams

dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Aug 8 @ 7:26 AM ET
Dog days of summer all we get is pens doing the ice bucket challenge
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 8 @ 8:42 AM ET
downie-sid-kunitz
horn-malkin-sutter
duper-goc-bennett
comeau-spaling-payerl/adams

- Grinder47


Switch Bennett and Downie . replace Adams/payerl with liquid hot Megna
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 8 @ 8:48 AM ET
You're telling me. I'm so bored I just created an all-time Mighty Ducks roster from the trilogy on NHL 14. It was actually somewhat difficult to figure out since they only had three actual defensemen over the course of the trilogy and Bombay only rolls out 3 lines. I had to relegate Russ Tyler to the blue line and use those scrubs from D1 that didn't make the cut for Team U.S.A. in D2 to make it all work. Now, if only I can figure out how to program Dwayne Robertson's lasso into the game...

Anyways, happy birthday Crosby. Stop getting old. You have about three more cups to win before you end your prime.

- Victoro311


Not sure about primes...but i think Sid and Geno still have 7 more years of domination, barring injuries. Maybe well get Sid two good wingers by then..
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Aug 8 @ 9:19 AM ET
Switch Bennett and Downie . replace Adams/payerl with liquid hot Megna
- YouMeAndDupuis9

And put the players in their proper positions
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Aug 8 @ 9:44 AM ET
Here's something to debate. Whats the pens all time PP look like?

Heres mine:

Crosby Mario Jagr
Coffey Francis

- stackthepads


Well...who is the net front presence in that group?

Certainly just about the most skilled group - although I might have Malkin in for Francis (as much as I respected and loved Francis as a player) - if I was going for the most skilled set of 5.

I'd probably go with:
Tocchet Crosby Jagr (with Tocchet in front of the net)
Mario Coffey

Mario (in his prime) could certainly play the point...with he and Coffey you have a right and left hand shot back there.

The only downside is you have two left handed shots on the sides (assuming Tocchet in front).
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
I'd give Crosby and Malkin some PK time sporadically. I don't wanna see one of them getting shut down for 3-4 months due to a broken foot.
- Barnaby36


Yeah I remember the Stars of 99' Their D were legendary at the time for blocking shots. Modano, Hull, Lethonen, Neweyndyk, those guys didn't drop to the ice, neither should 87 or 71. Especially during regular season.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
And put the players in their proper positions
- dbell646


This is a good starting spot when making a lineup. I always forget they aren't all ambidextrous.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
Nothing to do so I read an article about players/wives/girlfriends who cheated on their partner It's a long list (but hardly the truth):

Mathieu Schneider Patrick Roy wife

Ted Nolan Dominik Hasek wife

Eric Lindros Rod Brind’amour wife (attacked folding chair causing a concussion)

Shane Corson Alexander Mogilny wife

Jeff Brown Kirk McLean wife

Ryan Kesler Cory Schneider girlfriend

Craig Janney Brendan Shanahan Catherine

Pronger cheated wife weather girl Edmonton

Cristobal Huet sex daughter teammate

Jeff Carter Scott Hartnell wife

Dion Phaneuf Craig Conroy wife
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
This is a good starting spot when making a lineup. I always forget they aren't all ambidextrous.
- kgrpitt

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