Weber is considered great is he not? I wasnt referring to Coburn, nobody would call him great. I just dont agree with your assessment that he is our best defenseman. He is average. Streit being our best OFF D-man and Grossmann being our best DEF D-man. Coburn screws up far too much
- GOA88

Coburn eats the most minutes of ice time on the team. He's likely to start in most if not all of the defensive zone situation ( Pk, defending a lead). He's got great speed for a guy his size. One of the more stronger defenseman we have. Good with the puck regardless of offensive numbers (because he's a freaking defenseman). He's always healthy. He's without question our best defenseman. He's the most reliable defenseman we have.

Unreal
- Giroux_Is_God

And your opinions are made of gold I assume.

Coburn eats the most minutes of ice time on the team. He's likely to start in most if not all of the defensive zone situation ( Pk, defending a lead). He's got great speed for a guy his size. One of the more stronger defenseman we have. Good with the puck regardless of offensive numbers (because he's a freaking defenseman). He's always healthy. He's without question our best defenseman. He's the most reliable defenseman we have.
- SuperSchennBros

That is sad

And your opinions are made of gold I assume.
- GOA88

Nope mine are just correct

That is sad
- GOA88

It may be, but it's true.

Coburn is a solid if unspectacular supplemental top-pairing player, or a solid if unspectacular #3 defenseman. Seeing as we lack a top-pairing player or a player more well-rounded than him, he is our de facto #1. For better or worse.

Nope mine are just correct
- Giroux_Is_God

God is a cop butt grabbber.

Nope mine are just correct
- Giroux_Is_God

Gotcha

God is a cop butt grabbber.
- jmatchett383

/nttawwt

God is a cop butt grabbber.
- jmatchett383

I have no shame in admitting this

It may be, but it's true.

Coburn is a solid if unspectacular supplemental top-pairing player, or a solid if unspectacular #3 defenseman. Seeing as we lack a top-pairing player or a player more well-rounded than him, he is our de facto #1. For better or worse.
- jmatchett383

I understand that. It just hurts. Not his fault I guess. He is just relied upon too heavily.

Prediction: Zepp comes in and wins the Vezina.
- jmatchett383

Vezeppna

That is sad
- GOA88

No one is saying Braydon Coburn is the second coming of Raymond Bourque.

However, if you think Braydon Coburn isn't a guy who would be coveted around the league, were he made available in trade, I think you might want to re-evaluate Cobie's game.

No one is saying Braydon Coburn is the second coming of Raymond Bourque.

However, if you think Braydon Coburn isn't a guy who would be coveted around the league, were he made available in trade, I think you might want to re-evaluate Cobie's game.
- johndewar

Vezeppna
- PhillySportsGuy

That sounds like a made up word because someone was afraid to say "vagina".

No one is saying Braydon Coburn is the second coming of Raymond Bourque.

However, if you think Braydon Coburn isn't a guy who would be coveted around the league, were he made available in trade, I think you might want to re-evaluate Cobie's game.
- johndewar

He is available. Has been available. Nobody is offereing anything good enough in return. Maybe the Flyers overvalue Coby?

/nttawwt
- johndewar

I don't know what this means, so I'm assuming you wish to engage me in fisticuffs.

He is available. Has been available. Nobody is offereing anything good enough in return. Maybe the Flyers overvalue Coby?
- GOA88

He's worth more than two high-2nd round picks.

He is available. Has been available. Nobody is offereing anything good enough in return. Maybe the Flyers overvalue Coby?
- GOA88

I don't think he's been made available.

I think other teams asked about him and the Flyers said no. That probably accounts for the rumors you read on sites like this one, for example.

That is sad
- GOA88

Your argument is sad. You're just downplaying Coburn. Streit isn't better. Grossmann isn't better. Timonen can give him a run for his money but he's in clear decline. You want Luke Schenn to become more like Coburn then you do Grossmann or MacDonald. A guy like Derian Hatcher was very good throughout his career but wasn't an offensive juggernaut, still very well respected by Dallas and around the league.

He is available. Has been available. Nobody is offereing anything good enough in return. Maybe the Flyers overvalue Coby?
- GOA88

He's not available anymore. He was last summer coming off an injury and bad season.

The Flyers can't afford to move him. His value to this team is far greater than his value on the open market. Not to mention he's a bargain at his current cap hit.

I don't know what this means, so I'm assuming you wish to engage me in fisticuffs.
- jmatchett383

It means "not that there's anything wrong with that"....

Marques of Queensbury rules?

I don't think he's been made available.

I think other teams asked about him and the Flyers said no. That probably accounts for the rumors you read on sites like this one, for example.
- johndewar

Yes, just like how Shea Weber was "available" in 2011. Not that Nashville had any intentions of shopping him, but they were listening to any offers if they could possibly make their team better.

He is available. Has been available. Nobody is offereing anything good enough in return. Maybe the Flyers overvalue Coby?
- GOA88

You don't know for a fact Coburn is available. Our defense would be a lot worse without Coburn. A lot worse. We need him, so I wouldn't say he's available at all.

It means "not that there's anything wrong with that"....

Marques of Queensbury rules?


- johndewar

James the Gentleman Masher Corcoran style

You don't know for a fact Coburn is available. Our defense would be a lot worse without Coburn. A lot worse. We need him, so I wouldn't say he's available at all.
- SuperSchennBros

Well, for the right price...but yes, I think that the terms "available" and "shopped" are being confused here.