Quick look I see 2 games in 2012 that I would imagine, from looking at stat lines and that the Ravens made a comeback to win, I can guess that he took over just a bit.

It was interesting to see that last year when he threw for over 300 yards that the team lost every time (3 times)
- stashu

Interesting. I also think that indicates that you don't necessarily need a gun slinging 300+ yard passer on a weekly basis to win

Let's go with Mustang...which can be nice if you build it correctly.
- buffalofan19

Depends on where you are starting from

Interesting. I also think that indicates that you don't necessarily need a gun slinging 300+ yard passer on a weekly basis to win
- sbroads24

Fact.

Edit: you should probably have one that can get you at least 200/game

EJ 2013 - 197

To be Fair, the Bills organization is pretty terrible.
- RynoBull

If all the experts in here are so much smarter why are they not employed in some capacity with an NFL team . The only point here is . That the sample size is too small to draw final conclusions yet.

If all the experts in here are so much smarter why are they not employed in some capacity with an NFL team . The only point here is . That the sample size is too small to draw final conclusions yet.



- Maximum Signal

"It's not what you know. It's who you know".

Fact.

Edit: you should probably have one that can get you at least 200/game

EJ 2013 - 197
- RynoBull

Agreed.

But to think that EJ will not improve on his rookie numbers (which despite what anyone says are not bad, and are average for a rookie) is incredibly naïve

"It's not what you know. It's who you know".
- buffalofan19

You take your own opinion far too seriously sometimes . Glad you have crunched the numbers and pre determined this kid is a failure already . He may be , he may not be . The sample size is just not big enough as far as I am concerned to draw a final conclusion yet.

If all the experts in here are so much smarter why are they not employed in some capacity with an NFL team . The only point here is . That the sample size is too small to draw final conclusions yet.



- Maximum Signal

Do you not have opinions about ANYTHING other than your job? Cuz that's all this is

I think olives are disgusting, but I'm not a farmer

If all the experts in here are so much smarter why are they not employed in some capacity with an NFL team . The only point here is . That the sample size is too small to draw final conclusions yet.



- Maximum Signal

EJ's sample size - yes

Bills organization sample size - not a chance. They have only been good for maybe 8 years out of their entire existence. Ralph Wilson may have been a generous man but he owned a terrible team filled with people who make terrible decisions. The best thing that ever happened to the Bills was the USFL folding because then Kelly was forced to play here.

Agreed.

But to think that EJ will not improve on his rookie numbers (which despite what anyone says are not bad, and are average for a rookie) is incredibly naïve
- sbroads24

Absolutely. The problem again is that he isn't showing anyone that he is improving. You never hear anything positive about his game play so far...

EJ's sample size - yes

Bills organization sample size - not a chance. They have only been good for maybe 8 years out of their entire existence. Ralph Wilson may have been a generous man but he owned a terrible team filled with people who make terrible decisions. The best thing that ever happened to the Bills was the USFL folding because then Kelly was forced to play here.
- RynoBull

The only point I am trying to make the sample size is too small on EJ . The Bills are not even my favorite team. I admit they are a tire fire since the glory years . But somebody there must know something . Our GM was supposed to be one of the real up and comers when they lured him here . Does everyone just lose all their football knowledge when they come here ? Biggest problem is we have is a bean counter running the organization , not a person with a football background.

You take your own opinion far too seriously sometimes . Glad you have crunched the numbers and pre determined this kid is a failure already . He may be , he may not be . The sample size is just not big enough as far as I am concerned to draw a final conclusion yet.


- Maximum Signal

As I've stated before, I couldn't care less how well or poorly you regard my opinion.

However, the notion that one is not qualified to comment on a subject because he's not employed as an "expert" in that field is a false one. There are plenty of people in professional sports, and just about any other profession, that have no business being employed in their jobs, and there are plenty of people outside of it that would probably do very well at it.

Agreed.

But to think that EJ will not improve on his rookie numbers (which despite what anyone says are not bad, and are average for a rookie) is incredibly naïve
- sbroads24

I don't doubt he'll improve on his numbers. I also have little faith that improvement will be enough to help the Bills be a championship team.

The "Cobb is baseball" was more for the Cobb movie lovers.
- dadeadhead

Do you not have opinions about ANYTHING other than your job? Cuz that's all this is

I think olives are disgusting, but I'm not a farmer
- stashu

Opinions are one thing but people here are speaking in absolutes about a kid that has played 10 games.
A bigger sample size is needed to form such a conclusion.

Opinions are one thing but people here are speaking in absolutes about a kid that has played 10 games.
A bigger sample size is needed to form a more informed conclusion.
- Maximum Signal

Fixed

You can come to any conclusion with very little data.

Opinions are one thing but people here are speaking in absolutes about a kid that has played 10 games.
A bigger sample size is needed to form such a conclusion.
- Maximum Signal

meh, they're speaking in absolutes about their opinion, it's people that have to argue with them about their opinion that turns the whole thing upside down.

Someone will be right...yay?

FWIW, I think EJ is a scrub but have no problem waiting another year to see if he's a perma-scrub.

Do you not have opinions about ANYTHING other than your job? Cuz that's all this is

I think olives are disgusting, but I'm not a farmer
- stashu

Hey me too

EJ's sample size - yes

Bills organization sample size - not a chance. They have only been good for maybe 8 years out of their entire existence. Ralph Wilson may have been a generous man but he owned a terrible team filled with people who make terrible decisions. The best thing that ever happened to the Bills was the USFL folding because then Kelly was forced to play here.
- RynoBull

Could a guy like Jamarcus Russel maybe salvaged a career if he had been drafted by a well-oiled machine like New England? Possibly.

I could also see a guy like Wacko Joe Flacco busting had he been drafted by a hot mess like da Raiders.


Does the QB sabalize the organization (Det, Cin), or does the organization stabalize the QB (Balt, Pitt)? Who came first, the chicken or the egg?

EJ's sample size - yes

Bills organization sample size - not a chance. They have only been good for maybe 8 years out of their entire existence. Ralph Wilson may have been a generous man but he owned a terrible team filled with people who make terrible decisions. The best thing that ever happened to the Bills was the USFL folding because then Kelly was forced to play here.
- RynoBull

THIS


This has nothing to do with EJ the athlete and everything to do with the Bills handling of situations and their history. They have zero backup plan which tells me yet again their ego's and being proven right are more important than winning.\


edit: It wont matter soon when loser Russ Brandon is kicked to the curb under Pegula and they hire a real GM.

Do you not have opinions about ANYTHING other than your job? Cuz that's all this is

I think olives are disgusting, but I'm not a farmer
- stashu

I love olives. I am what I am and that's all that I am.

Could a guy like Jamarcus Russel maybe salvaged a career if he had been drafted by a well-oiled machine like New England? Possibly.

I could also see a guy like Wacko Joe Flacco busting had he been drafted by a hot mess like da Raiders.


Does the QB sabalize the organization (Det, Cin), or does the organization stabalize the QB (Balt, Pitt)? Who came first, the chicken or the egg?
- SuperCat

The chicken came first .. eggs can't.

The chicken came first .. eggs can't.
- cabin

god made the first egg.

god made the first egg.
- RynoBull

*gets popcorn ready

The chicken came first .. eggs can't.
- cabin

Eggs make chickens expendable.