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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
a rolling stone may be faster than the flyers D
- vejim

They just replaced the slowest Dman we have with a fairly speedy guy. Time for some new material.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
They just replaced the slowest Dman we have with a fairly speedy guy. Time for some new material.
- hereticpride

I am sure Hexy shares your feelings
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:37 PM ET

- ob18


whoever they pick will turnout to be the wrong choice.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Aug 5 @ 7:37 PM ET
Figure Kimmo goes straight to LTIR. This is the second time around with the blood clots. This is pretty serious, these things can kill. Don't count on Kimmo. They may have looked at MDZ, but jumped because of this bad news. No stop gaps. Right now with Del Zotto in at $1.3 M, they're a hair under $3 M in cap space with Kimmo and obviously Pronger on LTIR. Maybe 2 spots to fill, obviously with either a youngster or a bargain.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
I think it's more about flexibility. Do they still have enough to take a run at Hayes? Will they have overages for next season? Will they have the flexibility to make a move in season? Will they have enough room to bring up people if they need to?
- PhillySportsGuy


I agree, it is about flexibility. But as we see here, there's lots of ways of getting flexibility. The only real question now is what happens if Timonen is not out for the entire season.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
I think it's more about flexibility. Do they still have enough to take a run at Hayes? Will they have overages for next season? Will they have the flexibility to make a move in season? Will they have enough room to bring up people if they need to?
- PhillySportsGuy


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 5 @ 7:39 PM ET
a rolling stone may be faster than the flyers D
- vejim


Well believe it or not we got faster
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 5 @ 7:40 PM ET
Streit-PP QB(was better at it than Kimmo last year anyway)
AMac-Solid top 4 two-way Dmen
Coburn & Schenn- Solid Top4 defensive defensemen, fine players when paired with legit puck movers, which they look to be.
Grossmann-Shotblocker, PKer
Del Zotto-Can move and carry a puck well enough to carry the 3rd pair. Upside to maybe do even more

It's far from stellar but it works for me. On paper at least.

- hereticpride


They're made up of a bunch of guys who "need the right partner."

Is it a coincidence that Luke Schenn had his best season in 2012-13 when paired with Timonen and Coburn had a bounce back season in 2013-14 when paired with Timonen?

Who is going to be the guy who steps up and makes his teammates better? I feel the team will miss that as much as they miss his actual play. His ability to make his partner better will be an underrated aspect of his loss.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:43 PM ET
They're made up of a bunch of guys who "need the right partner."

Is it a coincidence that Luke Schenn had his best season in 2012-13 when paired with Timonen and Coburn had a bounce back season in 2013-14 when paired with Timonen?

Who is going to be the guy who steps up and makes his teammates better? I feel the team will miss that as much as they miss his actual play. His ability to make his partner better will be an underrated aspect of his loss.

- PhillySportsGuy


I don't see the problem as so much needing the right partner. The problem is that with Timonen out, every one pretty much has to be moved up. For instance, MacDonald now pretty much becomes a top pair defenseman on this team. He's not really suited for it. Everyone has to play more minutes to replace Timonen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:43 PM ET

- Winning


This was shown during a Erie/Guelph OHL playoff game I was watching in April

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 5 @ 7:43 PM ET
Morin looks like he's even faster
- PhillySportsGuy



he's preparing to be rushed
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
I want to know one thing. There's been numerous debates on here on the Flyers Cap space issue, and I was told by numerous people that the Flyers don't have the money to sign anyone, and they can't add any free agents. Well they've now added Emery, Schultz, and Del Zotto in Free Agency to the tune of 3.55M dollars. Where's that cap space come from?
- MJL

You were right.

There. Happy?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
So the highlights since the season ended are the Capt grabbing a cops ass, and blood clots. Totally awesome! Beats landing a stud free agent or improving the team via trade.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
Del Zotto 1 yr. Done.

Per Flyers FB page.

- hereticpride


Has the potential to be the best value addition of the summer... pretty psyched.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
I don't see the problem as so much needing the right partner. The problem is that with Timonen out, every one pretty much has to be moved up. For instance, MacDonald now pretty much becomes a top pair defenseman on this team. He's not really suited for it. Everyone has to play more minutes to replace Timonen.
- MJL


I just feel Timonen's ability to raise the game of his partner should not be overlooked. Coburn was good for this team last year, but I don't know if we can assume he'll be just as good when paired with Amac instead of Timonen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
whoever they pick will turnout to be the wrong choice.
- wilsonecho91


I'm going with the belief they'll be in the middle of the round & I'm thinking of putting an early list of prospects together.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well believe it or not we got faster
- Just5


And younger. MDZ is only 24, almost 8 months younger than LSchenn.

It'll be a good time for each of these guys to finally figure it out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:48 PM ET
I just feel Timonen's ability to raise the game of his partner should not be overlooked. Coburn was good for this team last year, but I don't know if we can assume he'll be just as good when paired with Amac instead of Timonen.
- PhillySportsGuy


I think that it's safe to assume that not having Timonen for however long is going to affect the team in a lot of ways. Things like this create opportunity for others. Time to step up.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 5 @ 7:48 PM ET
I like anyone else hopes Kimmo Timonen has a safe and speedy recovery.

I hope this doesn't come off heartless because I'm speaking from a place that came from before we re-signed Timonen and a place that thought he was going to retire at season's end. I personally wouldn't have re-signed Timonen to begin with and I voiced such. I think many of us view him as a number one defenseman still. I think so much is made about age, except when it comes to Kimmo Timonen. I think it was only a matter of time until age and injuries caught up with him. I love the guy and I would love nothing more then to see him raise a Cup ANYWHERE but how surprising is this news really? Apart of you has to be shocked and feel for the guy but on the other hand, looking over his recent history, it's shocking this hasn't happened sooner. Ready or not, there was always going to be a time when this guy couldn't come back.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 5 @ 7:49 PM ET
So the highlights since the season ended are the Capt grabbing a cops ass, and blood clots. Totally awesome! Beats landing a stud free agent or improving the team via trade.
- PLindbergh31

And by stud free agent, you mean shelling out a contract to a player that will expire in his late 30s along with its 7+ mil cap hit.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 5 @ 7:50 PM ET
Has the potential to be the best value addition of the summer... pretty psyched.
- Tomahawk

he did have 2 points more than Grossman
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Aug 5 @ 7:51 PM ET
Well, Del Zotto wasn't my first choice, but honestly, at this stage of the game, anyone they signed has flaws.

I hope he plays well and maybe finds a home here -- Lord knows there is opportunity -- and becomes a good result after a pretty tough news day.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 5 @ 7:51 PM ET
So the highlights since the season ended are the Capt grabbing a cops ass, and blood clots. Totally awesome! Beats landing a stud free agent or improving the team via trade.
- PLindbergh31


stud free agents ?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
I like anyone else hopes Kimmo Timonen has a safe and speedy recovery.

I hope this doesn't come off heartless because I'm speaking from a place that came from before we re-signed Timonen and a place that thought he was going to retire at season's end. I personally wouldn't have re-signed Timonen to begin with and I voiced such. I think many of us view him as a number one defenseman still. I think so much is made about age, except when it comes to Kimmo Timonen. I think it was only a matter of time until age and injuries caught up with him. I love the guy and I would love nothing more then to see him raise a Cup ANYWHERE but how surprising is this news really? Apart of you has to be shocked and feel for the guy but on the other hand, looking over his recent history, it's shocking this hasn't happened sooner. Ready or not, there was always going to be a time when this guy couldn't come back.


- SuperSchennBros


I didn't have a problem with signing Timmo at all. Risks included.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
And by stud free agent, you mean shelling out a contract to a player that will expire in his late 30s along with its 7+ mil cap hit.
- Giroux_Is_God


Does Niskanen fit this scenario?
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