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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 5 @ 3:15 PM ET
I am SOOOOOOO not starting an AMac discussion. I'm not.

But that's not going to work. We are (frank)ed if that's how that shakes out. Exposing him to those kinds of minutes against that quality of competition...no. It just doesn't work.

Damn it. Damn it.

- AllInForFlyers


I'd go:
Coburn-Schenn
Schenn plays best when he is paired with a mobile partner and plays a ton of minutes. Roll these 2 every other shift and I think they will be a solid top shutdown pair

Streit-Grossmann
Adequate 2nd pair, Streit also QBs the top pp unit

AMac-Alt
Should be ok a a 3rd pair at even strength and can work the point on the 2nd pp unit.

Its far from ideal, but I like it more than rushing Hagg, Morin or Ghost or signing MDZ
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:15 PM ET


holy poop kimmo. nooooooo
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 5 @ 3:16 PM ET
Should I order my Flyers Del Zotto jersey in medium or large? I regularly wear medium clothes. Thanks.
- Streit2ThePoint

Serious question. If the Flyers wanted to sign Del Zotto right now would they get him on a one year cheap deal (I think we have 1.3 available if Pronger is on LTIR before the season) or do we let Kimmo retire and then use that extra 2M? And let's say he is signed is it:

Coburn- Streit
AMAC- Schenn
Grossman- MDZ


???
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 5 @ 3:16 PM ET
I was listening to the MvsW podcast yesterday and they were talking about teams who were tanking for next season and they had the Flyers in the top 5 based solely on their defense. Where do you think they'd have them this afternoon?
- mayorofangrytown


#1 with a bullet; though with their luck the bullet would hit one of their players
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 5 @ 3:16 PM ET
Coburn - Del Zotto
Streit - McDonalds
Grossmann - Schenn
Shultz

- Streit2ThePoint



Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:17 PM ET

- Tomahawk


I thought that would raise some eyebrows.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
I'd go:
Coburn-Schenn
Schenn plays best when he is paired with a mobile partner and plays a ton of minutes. Roll these 2 every other shift and I think they will be a solid top shutdown pair

Streit-Grossmann
Adequate 2nd pair, Streit also QBs the top pp unit

AMac-Alt
Should be ok a a 3rd pair at even strength and can work the point on the 2nd pp unit.

Its far from ideal, but I like it more than rushing Hagg, Morin or Ghost or signing MDZ

- BiggE


Schenn literally played the least amount of minutes then any D man last year on the team. I can't see him given that kind of promotion.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
I'd go:
Coburn-Schenn
Schenn plays best when he is paired with a mobile partner and plays a ton of minutes. Roll these 2 every other shift and I think they will be a solid top shutdown pair

Streit-Grossmann
Adequate 2nd pair, Streit also QBs the top pp unit

AMac-Alt
Should be ok a a 3rd pair at even strength and can work the point on the 2nd pp unit.

Its far from ideal, but I like it more than rushing Hagg, Morin or Ghost or signing MDZ

- BiggE


I'd go:
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
Serious question. If the Flyers wanted to sign Del Zotto right now would they get him on a one year cheap deal (I think we have 1.3 available if Pronger is on LTIR before the season) or do we let Kimmo retire and then use that extra 2M? And let's say he is signed is it:

Coburn- Streit
AMAC- Schenn
Grossman- MDZ


???

- coffee junkie


IF they sign him I'd only want a one year deal for $1 mil
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'd go:
Coburn-Schenn
Schenn plays best when he is paired with a mobile partner and plays a ton of minutes. Roll these 2 every other shift and I think they will be a solid top shutdown pair

Streit-Grossmann
Adequate 2nd pair, Streit also QBs the top pp unit

AMac-Alt
Should be ok a a 3rd pair at even strength and can work the point on the 2nd pp unit.

Its far from ideal, but I like it more than rushing Hagg, Morin or Ghost or signing MDZ

- BiggE


You're right. That's probably the best we can do -- running Del Zotto out there, from what I see, isn't going to solve the Flyers' biggest issue: They need defensemen who can play defense AND skate, not a defensemen who can skate and...not defend.

This poop just gets so old. I just wanted a roster that gives the younger forwards the best opportunity to succeed. So, of course, one of the two best passers on the defense has a serious health condition.


coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
I was listening to the MvsW podcast yesterday and they were talking about teams who were tanking for next season and they had the Flyers in the top 5 based solely on their defense. Where do you think they'd have them this afternoon?
- mayorofangrytown

While I think that saying they are tanking on purpose is a bit too conspiracy theory esque for me I could see it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
I thought that would raise some eyebrows.
- Streit2ThePoint


Best we can hope for now:

Coburn/McBain
AMac/Streit
MDZ/Schenn
Schultz

Adios Grossmann.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 5 @ 3:20 PM ET
IF they sign him I'd only want a one year deal for $1 mil
- Streit2ThePoint


That may be best for him as well. He's pretty much guaranteed PT here.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:23 PM ET
We better hope Morin and Ghost "WOW" in camp.

Del Zotto is not the answer
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:24 PM ET
Best we can hope for now:

Coburn/McBain
AMac/Streit
MDZ/Schenn
Schultz

Adios Grossmann.

- Tomahawk


I'm sorry, but an AMac/Streit pairing terrifies the living hell out of me -- and I like Mark Streit. I think he had a very strong season last year.

But Sweet Mother of God, there's no way that holds up over 82 games for a playoff team. I certainly want Kimmo Timonen to be healthy and to live his life, which is why I'm not discussing him with regard to being on the team.

But yeah. I'm sorry. I want this team to make the effing playoffs. Being in jeopardy of not making the playoffs in August...WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 5 @ 3:26 PM ET
it is his 2nd episode of blood clots

often they put you on blood thinners for life when that happens

and no contact sports on while on blood thinners

he's likely done

- Marc D


tomas Fleischmann played on them.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 3:26 PM ET

Its far from ideal, but I like it more than rushing Hagg, Morin or Ghost or signing MDZ

- BiggE

How are they rushing them if they're ready to play in the NHL?
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 5 @ 3:26 PM ET
bring on del zotto. you people are crazy for not wanting him.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 5 @ 3:27 PM ET
I'm sorry, but an AMac/Streit pairing terrifies the living hell out of me -- and I like Mark Streit. I think he had a very strong season last year.

But Sweet Mother of God, there's no way that holds up over 82 games for a playoff team. I certainly want Kimmo Timonen to be healthy and to live his life, which is why I'm not discussing him with regard to being on the team.

But yeah. I'm sorry. I want this team to make the effing playoffs. Being in jeopardy of not making the playoffs in August...WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF

- AllInForFlyers

I think their playoff chances just took a serious hit
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Aug 5 @ 3:27 PM ET
mooD
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 3:28 PM ET
We better hope Morin and Ghost "WOW" in camp.

Del Zotto is not the answer

- GOA88

GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 5 @ 3:30 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown

Snider already said he "Gotstobehere" that kid is gonna play. Watch. Snider will meddle once again.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 5 @ 3:31 PM ET
That E is looking a little scandalous.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 3:31 PM ET
mooD
- hockeylover

Happy for the opportunity to join the big club...


aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Aug 5 @ 3:31 PM ET
At least Streit will be on #1 PP Unit?

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