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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
Agree and it's not like Kruger is going to ask for $5.5 million per season. I could see Krugs signing for around $2.5 million for 4-5 years. Kruger would still be under 30 at the end of the deal and have the opportunity for another big contract.
- DarthKane

Even at 2.5 DK, the savings on a guy on a ELC is roughly 1.6 a year. Again. Its not that I want them to move Kruger. Just that he may be moved
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
You can disagree all you want. I know exactly how old he is. And there is a cap in place and the Hawks will need to move players to save salary. Tough choices will have to be made. And Kruger may be one of those choices.

Especially when Danault has been instructed to be more Kruger like in his play. This isn't a question of whether Kruger is effective in his role or not. Its a question of cost control.

And the whole Kruger getting more physically mature is a fallacy to me. He is 24. Shouldn't he a physically mature by now? This isn't an 18 year old out of juniors.

Paying Kruger 2.5 to 3 mil a year is a luxury they may not be able to afford.

- Elbows15



I'm not saying Kruger is irreplacable, but right now we don't have anyone in the pipleline that can take his spot. Danault isn't ready now, in a year or two..maybe. Kruger offers enough that he deserves serious consideration for a long term contract. Saad and Shaw are probably ahead of Kruger in contract priority but Krugs has his place.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Aug 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
He actually is a very pleasant person. That makes it even more fun to call him cranky.
- Elbows15



I am sure he is. Just not so much here on HB. Especially with Blues fans.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
Even at 2.5 DK, the savings on a guy on a ELC is roughly 1.6 a year. Again. Its not that I want them to move Kruger. Just that he may be moved
- Elbows15



For sure. The only guys that I think are truly safe are Kane, Toew, Keith and Hossa.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
I'm not saying Kruger is irreplacable, but right now we don't have anyone in the pipleline that can take his spot. Danault isn't ready now, in a year or two..maybe. Kruger offers enough that he deserves serious consideration for a long term contract. Saad and Shaw are probably ahead of Kruger in contract priority but Krugs has his place.
- DarthKane

The question as to whether Danault is ready or not is unknown. 4th liners don't get long term contracts on cap teams.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 6 @ 5:55 PM ET


I am sure he is. Just not so much here on HB. Especially with Blues fans.

- carcus

Well you are Blues fans. No one here will hold that against him.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
He actually is a very pleasant person. That makes it even more fun to call him cranky.
- Elbows15


As long as you avoid the futbol thing, lol
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Aug 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
Well you are Blues fans. No one here will hold that against him.
- Elbows15

Understandable.

Is there still time to sign Kevin Hayes?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
Understandable.

Is there still time to sign Kevin Hayes?

- carcus



on August 16th he's all yours.
Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Aug 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
For sure. The only guys that I think are truly safe are Kane, Toew, Keith and Hossa.
- DarthKane

Add Saad to that list. He's going nowhere.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 6:20 PM ET
Add Saad to that list. He's going nowhere.
- Sandus



He's not as untouchable as those guys, but he's getting there. JJ wrote a blog not long ago about the various levels of "untouchablity" (for lack of a better term) and summed it up well.

IMO Saad isn't on the same level as Kane, Toews, Keith and Hossa but he is in the next group.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 6 @ 6:36 PM ET
For sure. The only guys that I think are truly safe are Kane, Toew, Keith and Hossa.
- DarthKane


I'd add Saad to that list - don't think they'd move him unless the return was INSANE.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 6 @ 6:37 PM ET
Understandable.

Is there still time to sign Kevin Hayes?

- carcus

No - but still enough time to trade his rights.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
Understandable.

Is there still time to sign Kevin Hayes?

- carcus


I bet Hayes is waiting for them to trade Sharp to free up a desired roster spot and money
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
No - but still enough time to trade his rights.
- StLBravesFan


The compensatory pick will be better than anything they can get for trading his rights.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 6:46 PM ET
on August 16th he's all yours.
- DarthKane


Right, because there are so many top 6/9 forward spots open on the Blues roster
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 6 @ 6:47 PM ET
The compensatory pick will be better than anything they can get for trading his rights.
- stljam


Jammer - I know - the discussion has been going on for months.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 6 @ 7:13 PM ET
Understandable.

Is there still time to sign Kevin Hayes?

- carcus

I couldn't care less about Kevin Hayes. He isn't anything special. Someone is going to be very disappointed after signing him.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 6 @ 8:10 PM ET


Saad steps in to fill the void huh? So Saad is gonna play LW for the 1st line AND the 2nd line? WRONG. I keep seeing this thrown around, that "Saad replaces Sharp". Makes no sense. We need TWO capable elite top 6 LW's. Not 1 and then a question mark in Bickell. How come so many seem iffy about having Leddy hypothetically replace Oduya(or keeping Oduya and using someone like Rundblad to replace Leddy) and at the same time think Bickell is a permanent top 6 winger? Sharp would NOT be easy to replace, someone like Rozy or Leddy would be much easier.

- SimpleJack

It's ok, your Sharp jersey will still be cool after he's traded, no need to get so defensive.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 6 @ 8:13 PM ET


I am sure he is. Just not so much here on HB. Especially with Blues fans.

- carcus

(frank) you, OK?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 6 @ 8:20 PM ET
He actually is a very pleasant person. That makes it even more fun to call him cranky.
- Elbows15

I'm Captain (frank)ing Sunshine.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 6 @ 8:28 PM ET
I'm Captain (frank)ing Sunshine.
- Ogilthorpe2

I said pleasant. I didn't say anything about happy. Huge difference.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Aug 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
The compensatory pick will be better than anything they can get for trading his rights.
- stljam



Please tell me you were kidding.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Aug 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
(frank) you, OK?
- Ogilthorpe2

hawks2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 6 @ 9:21 PM ET
I'm not saying Kruger is irreplaceable, but right now we don't have anyone in the pipleline that can take his spot. Danault isn't ready now, in a year or two..maybe. Kruger offers enough that he deserves serious consideration for a long term contract. Saad and Shaw are probably ahead of Kruger in contract priority but Krugs has his place.
- DarthKane

Nordstrom, and potentially Rasmussen come to mind. I also happen to believe, besides Kruger, Shaw and Smith are likely gone when their deals are up next, too.
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