Kyle also showed a lot more effort even when he wasn't scoring. Bailey is invisible.
- Isles_since_6

True there were a lot of games I did not even hear his name mentioned, it just seems like he don't care

Like I said if those "maybes" work out it's a different story. DeHaan continues to improve, Strome, etc. and we get a solid year from Hamonic/Lubo and no serious injuries to our blue line then we are a playoff team probably even without an addition of a top 4. I just think that's hoping for the stars to align. Never works out that way and it's unrealistic for someone to think it will IMO.
- Cptmjl

no

Kyle also showed a lot more effort even when he wasn't scoring. Bailey is invisible.
- Isles_since_6

And Kyle rules at Call of Duty! #gamer

Kyle also showed a lot more effort even when he wasn't scoring. Bailey is invisible.
- Isles_since_6

Kyle showed more effort even when he was tripping over his own skates along the boards!

What are you talking about? Toews would make a good third line center on our team.
- Cptmjl

IM telling you the best two way center in game scored 68points last year.
Bailey will never be a Toews but its not all about putting up 40 goals and 50 assists.

Bailey might be disappointing till now but at 24 years old you don't give up. He not short skill, he short confidence. Too bad he has Capuano that cant extract anything out of his players.

I Can tell you give a Bailey to a Ken Hitchcock or Joel Quenville and be like wow, this kid can play.

No basically he just sucks!! I mean I don't expect him to score 40 goals at all 20 would be nice putting up 40 points or close to 50. Not making stupid passes would help as well. I just think it is time to move on from the trash. He only puts up numbers when the Islanders are way out of the playoffs. Maybe he cant play with pressure. He would look awesome in a Winnipeg jersey though
- kasperrko

You mean you would super pleased if he scored 2 more Points than last year 38 points?

True there were a lot of games I did not even hear his name mentioned, it just seems like he don't care
- kasperrko

hit the "mute" button

You mean you would super pleased if he scored 2 more Points than last year 38 points?
- Spartiarti

dude seriously Bailey is not as great as you think. You have loved the guy the minute he stepped on the ice. He has done nothing to even be considered a NHL player. I will say any other team he would be in the AHL where he belongs

hit the "mute" button
- LetsGoIsles

Still no sign of him

Bailey scored 8 goals playing mostly top six. This is why he's being referred to as a bust. Perspective, you need it.
- Isles_since_6

So you I guess I should brace myself for when you hate Grabovski. He scored 13 last year. Kumelin scored 9.

Bailey played 15mins a night and was asked to be a Board Grinder by Capuano. End of year when Tavares when down, Bailey was allowed to control the play. He did great. If bailey spent 2 seasons in juniors and AHL and was 24 yr old on this team. We wouldn't been discussing him as a bust.

So you I guess I should brace myself for when you hate Grabovski. He scored 13 last year. Kumelin scored 9.

Bailey played 15mins a night and was asked to be a Board Grinder by Capuano. End of year when Tavares when down, Bailey was allowed to control the play. He did great. If bailey spent 2 seasons in juniors and AHL and was 24 yr old (soon to be 25) on this team. We wouldn't been discussing him as a bust.
- Spartiarti

If a top ten pick, projected to be your second line center spends two full seasons in the AHL and still isn't producing/improving by 24...yeah...I'm still calling him a bust.
The kid has been put in virtually every forward role there is to give him a chance to succeed and has been pedestrian at best. In fact, the AHL is precisely where he should be at this point. Lump him in with the Tambellini's of the world. Guys with plenty of skill who simply could never find their NHL self.

Consider that Matt Martin was showing more of a scoring touch in his limited ice time than Bailey.

So you I guess I should brace myself for when you hate Grabovski. He scored 13 last year. Kumelin scored 9.

Bailey played 15mins a night and was asked to be a Board Grinder by Capuano. End of year when Tavares when down, Bailey was allowed to control the play. He did great. If bailey spent 2 seasons in juniors and AHL and was 24 yr old on this team. We wouldn't been discussing him as a bust.
- Spartiarti

since when does any player listen to Capuano?? Right there he is a bust

Bailey only has less points than Stamkos, Doughty, Karlson and Jordan Eberle in his draft class.

The fact that Bailey was thrown in the fire rookie season is irrelevant. The reality is he is 24. So what if he played more games. those other players with less game weren't in the NHL.

You know who was a bust. A hockeybuzz favorite Filatov that many of you at open arms that we passed on in draft.

Remember these exchanges if Bailey gets traded and you all change your tune to why we only got some scrub dman or gritty 4th line forward for him. Punting on Young players is what can set us back.

Bailey only has less points than Stamkos, Doughty, Karlson and Jordan Eberle in his draft class.

The fact that Bailey was thrown in the fire rookie season is irrelevant. The reality is he is 24. So what if he played more games. those other players with less game weren't in the NHL.

You know who was a bust. A hockeybuzz favorite Filatov that many of you at open arms that we passed on in draft.

Remember these exchanges if Bailey gets traded and you all change your tune to why we only got some scrub dman or gritty 4th line forward for him. Punting on Young players is what can set us back.
- Spartiarti

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? What does Filatov have to do with Bailey? While 24/25 may be young, 6-7 years in the NHL is NOT young. Especially when those years have shown virtually no improvement. Now is precisely the time you should consider trading Josh, since there may actually be a GM out there who like's him 1/1000th as much as you.

The bottom line is that Josh got his lofty draft spot based on ONE good season in the OHL. Since that one season, he's done NOTHING. Yet he's expected to occupy a top six spot? I'd gladly take a gritty 4th line forward for him if it means opening space in the top six for a kid like Anders Lee. A kid who actually produces.

Bailey only has less points than Stamkos, Doughty, Karlson and Jordan Eberle in his draft class.

The fact that Bailey was thrown in the fire rookie season is irrelevant. The reality is he is 24. So what if he played more games. those other players with less game weren't in the NHL.

You know who was a bust. A hockeybuzz favorite Filatov that many of you at open arms that we passed on in draft.

Remember these exchanges if Bailey gets traded and you all change your tune to why we only got some scrub dman or gritty 4th line forward for him. Punting on Young players is what can set us back.
- Spartiarti

And Stepan.

Stepan and Eberle in over 100 less games, also. It turned out to be a pretty weak draft class. Moot point.

Also, Pieterangelo is next on the list, right behind Bailey by only 5pts in 101 less games. As a defenseman. Ennis is behind Pieterangelo around 140 less games and only 11pts behind Bailey.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? What does Filatov have to do with Bailey? While 24/25 may be young, 6-7 years in the NHL is NOT young. Especially when those years have shown virtually no improvement. Now is precisely the time you should consider trading Josh, since there may actually be a GM out there who like's him 1/1000th as much as you.

The bottom line is that Josh got his lofty draft spot based on ONE good season in the OHL. Since that one season, he's done NOTHING. Yet he's expected to occupy a top six spot? I'd gladly take a gritty 4th line forward for him if it means opening space in the top six for a kid like Anders Lee. A kid who actually produces.
- keaner17

IM telling you the best two way center in game scored 68points last year.
Bailey will never be a Toews but its not all about putting up 40 goals and 50 assists.

Bailey might be disappointing till now but at 24 years old you don't give up. He not short skill, he short confidence. Too bad he has Capuano that cant extract anything out of his players.

I Can tell you give a Bailey to a Ken Hitchcock or Joel Quenville and be like wow, this kid can play.
- Spartiarti

Here’s the thing. You don’t give up on Bailey if you can’t put someone better in your lineup. This year we’re looking at Lee possibly having to start in the ahl due to the numbers ahead of him on the depth chart. Is Bailey better than Lee? Lee scored more goals in 22 games than Bailey did all year. Lee drove to the net, did Bailey?

The job of the GM and coach is to put the best players you have on the ice, if Bailey’s on the third line sending Lee to Bridgeport, is this icing the best team we have? I don’t think so. When not giving up on a player means you’re not putting your best lineup on the ice then I have a problem with that.

At some point, after 6 years you need to be able to make a decision on a player. His career high was 16 goals in his second season. You could make the argument he’s regressed almost every year since. He may well develop somewhere else, but here, right now, he’s blocking a better player. Time to go.

So you I guess I should brace myself for when you hate Grabovski. He scored 13 last year. Kumelin scored 9.

Bailey played 15mins a night and was asked to be a Board Grinder by Capuano. End of year when Tavares when down, Bailey was allowed to control the play. He did great. If bailey spent 2 seasons in juniors and AHL and was 24 yr old on this team. We wouldn't been discussing him as a bust.
- Spartiarti

13 goals in 58 games is a bit different than 8 goals in 77, no?

Kulemin is a player who we signed that has massive risk attached to him, and in a horrible year still scored more goals than Josh Bailey.

You cannot keep every young player indefinitely hoping some day they'll figure it out. Fact is that 6 years is an awfully long time to keep hoping someone figures it out. I'm far more willing to give Kulemin an opportunity because he actually has produced before, something Bailey has not yet done.

God I used to get slammed for defending the Okposo "Im a power forward" comment.

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God I used to get slammed for defending the Okposo "Im a power forward" comment.

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- XxNYIxX

for the record, I defended Okposo and didn't want him traded. Bailey is an entirely different player and shows a heck of a lot less drive and effort.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? What does Filatov have to do with Bailey? While 24/25 may be young, 6-7 years in the NHL is NOT young. Especially when those years have shown virtually no improvement. Now is precisely the time you should consider trading Josh, since there may actually be a GM out there who like's him 1/1000th as much as you.

The bottom line is that Josh got his lofty draft spot based on ONE good season in the OHL. Since that one season, he's done NOTHING. Yet he's expected to occupy a top six spot? I'd gladly take a gritty 4th line forward for him if it means opening space in the top six for a kid like Anders Lee. A kid who actually produces.
- keaner17

So u happy about getting clutterbuck then for nino. Nino didn't produce. We showed Minnesota up nicely on that one.

If bailey keeps putting up points guess what. Ennis won't pass him.
Lee needs some refining. Love his atheletism and nose for net. But he doesn't play complete game. Bailey disappointing till now but I wouldn't say he is a bust.

So u happy about getting clutterbuck then for nino. Nino didn't produce. We showed Minnesota up nicely on that one.

If bailey keeps putting up points guess what. Ennis won't pass him.
Lee needs some refining. Love his atheletism and nose for net. But he doesn't play complete game. Bailey disappointing till now but I wouldn't say he is a bust.
- Spartiarti

I don't think Lubo will play more than 60 games.
- JimmyP

Definitely a possibility.

So u happy about getting clutterbuck then for nino. Nino didn't produce. We showed Minnesota up nicely on that one.

If bailey keeps putting up points guess what. Ennis won't pass him.
Lee needs some refining. Love his atheletism and nose for net. But he doesn't play complete game. Bailey disappointing till now but I wouldn't say he is a bust.
- Spartiarti

The fact of the matter is, there are players coming up behind Bailey that are producing better then Bailey. At some point they are going to push him out of the way... I agree maybe not right now.... but by mid season if he isnt producing... move him, move him for anything that helps us elsewhere and let those players nipping at his heals show what they can do. If josh moves on and begins producing elsewhere... good for him... i highly doubt anyone will be kicking themself. It just didnt work here.

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- eichiefs9

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