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EssuieToutJeune
Nashville Predators
Location: See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknessesblabla
Joined: 03.01.2013

Aug 4 @ 11:50 AM ET
Wouldn't be surprise to see Plekanec traded for some young players or draft choices to make some place of Galchenyuk.
- ShafterBenRaide


Yeah. Did it with Gorges, will do it again if needs be.
mushalain1
Joined: 10.29.2012

Aug 4 @ 11:50 AM ET
If you look at this page:
http://capgeek.com/canadiens/


You see that Bergevin will have to be very creative next season... not a lot of cap space available.

- Pecafan Fan


His own fault. The Briere signing was garbage, should of kept him rather than Parenteau since Briere would of been done at the end of this year while P.A Parenteau is signed untill 15/16. Also need to dump Bourque somehow.
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

Aug 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
Luckily the Habs stepped off of the ledge right before they fell off of it. It's a big contract but it's less than he would get as a free agent in a couple of years.

If you compare it to the most of the UFA contracts handed out this year it looks pretty good. Wait a few years, when you see what other UFA defensemen get after the cap goes up it will probably look like a steal.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Aug 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
His own fault. The Briere signing was garbage, should of kept him rather than Parenteau since Briere would of been done at the end of this year while P.A Parenteau is signed untill 15/16. Also need to dump Bourque somehow.
- mushalain1


We never know, Parenteau could be good on the top 2 lines this year.
EssuieToutJeune
Nashville Predators
Location: See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknessesblabla
Joined: 03.01.2013

Aug 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
IF so, you can expect a similar salary coming back
- WaterBoy


That's what I also thought for Gorges.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
His own fault. The Briere signing was garbage, should of kept him rather than Parenteau since Briere would of been done at the end of this year while P.A Parenteau is signed untill 15/16. Also need to dump Bourque somehow.
- mushalain1

Parenteau will do fine.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
If you look at this page:
http://capgeek.com/canadiens/


You see that Bergevin will have to be very creative next season... not a lot of cap space available.

- Pecafan Fan


Really?
11M, plus if the cap goes up, and we know it will, to sign a few kids seems very easy to me...
elcabong
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm not sure... I lost my GPS, QC
Joined: 07.02.2010

Aug 4 @ 11:54 AM ET
27. But depends how long he signed him for
- mushalain1

Exactly! It cost Montreal 72M plus the bridge contract to ensure Subban plays for Montreal for the better part of his career. Having him UFA at 27 would have been catastrophic if he continues on his ascension to the top.

Again, Bergevin is doing fine, at least in this instance.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
If you look at this page:
http://capgeek.com/canadiens/


You see that Bergevin will have to be very creative next season... not a lot of cap space available.

- Pecafan Fan


Doable with a rising cap and unloading some dead weight. Tight, but doable.
mushalain1
Joined: 10.29.2012

Aug 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
We never know, Parenteau could be good on the top 2 lines this year.
- BashCH


Will be a long shot. Couldn't get it done with guys like O'Reilly, Ducesne, Mackinnon, and Stastny surrounding him. It was simply a trade exchanging each others problems. Except 1 of the problems has an extra year on their contract.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Aug 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
His own fault. The Briere signing was garbage, should of kept him rather than Parenteau since Briere would of been done at the end of this year while P.A Parenteau is signed untill 15/16. Also need to dump Bourque somehow.
- mushalain1

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Will be a long shot. Couldn't get it done with guys like O'Reilly, Ducesne, Mackinnon, and Stastny surrounding him. It was simply a trade exchanging each others problems. Except 1 of the problems has an extra year on their contract.
- mushalain1


Damn Bergevin. That was probably Moslon who told him to do it...
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Aug 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Will be a long shot. Couldn't get it done with guys like O'Reilly, Ducesne, Mackinnon, and Stastny surrounding him. It was simply a trade exchanging each others problems. Except 1 of the problems has an extra year on their contract.
- mushalain1


I wouldn't call 43 pts in 48 games and 33 pts in 55 games "not doing it"....
mushalain1
Joined: 10.29.2012

Aug 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
Exactly! It cost Montreal 72M plus the bridge contract to ensure Subban plays for Montreal for the better part of his career. Having him UFA at 27 would have been catastrophic if he continues on his ascension to the top.

Again, Bergevin is doing fine, at least in this instance.

- elcabong


Well if you look deeper into it, Subban was 23 years old at the time. He wanted I believe a 5 year deal worth 25 million, thus making him a UFA at the age of 28. They could of signed him for longer term as well, but Habs brass was still on the fence, and didnt want to sign him for more than 2 years. Then he won the norris Trophy, the rest his history.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
PK is hitting on Genie, Fred.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
Will be a long shot. Couldn't get it done with guys like O'Reilly, Ducesne, Mackinnon, and Stastny surrounding him. It was simply a trade exchanging each others problems. Except 1 of the problems has an extra year on their contract.
- mushalain1


It was mostly because Paranteau couldn't keep up if you ask me. If he's playing with Pleks or Eller he could be effective, won't be counted on to speed down the ice to stay in the play.

And it's not like he wasn't putting up points, though I don't think Briere's point totals would have been so bad either had he not done whatever he did causing Therrien to despise the very mention of his name.
mushalain1
Joined: 10.29.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
It was mostly because Paranteau couldn't keep up if you ask me. If he's playing with Pleks or Eller he could be effective, won't be counted on to speed down the ice to stay in the play.
- ehabs9


I don't know 1 player who has ever been effective playing with Pleks.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 4 @ 12:03 PM ET
We never know, Parenteau could be good on the top 2 lines this year.
- BashCH


Parenteau produces at a top 6 rate and is paid less than what third liners are getting paid in UFA today. Briere signing was nonsensical but that was a very solid trade.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
I don't know 1 player who has ever been effective playing with Pleks.
- mushalain1


This is true

There was the Kovalev and AK year, but apart from that.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
It was mostly because Paranteau couldn't keep up if you ask me. If he's playing with Pleks or Eller he could be effective, won't be counted on to speed down the ice to stay in the play.

And it's not like he wasn't putting up points, though I don't think Briere's point totals would have been so bad either had he not done whatever he did causing Therrien to despise the very mention of his name.

- ehabs9


the dude scored at a 60-point pace over his 2 years there.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don't know 1 player who has ever been effective playing with Pleks.
- mushalain1


Because he always play with
mushalain1
Joined: 10.29.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
the dude scored at a 60-point pace over his 2 years there.
- DoubleDown


Big deal. We have enough 50-60 point players. Habs are full of 2nd line players. When we going to get the 80-100 point player? Been too long since Mats Naslund.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Aug 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Big deal. We have enough 50-60 point players. Habs are full of 2nd line players. When we going to get the 80-100 point player? Been too long since Mats Naslund.
- mushalain1


Yeah...full of 50-60 pts players (3).

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Big deal. We have enough 50-60 point players. Habs are full of 2nd line players. When we going to get the 80-100 point player? Been too long since Mats Naslund.
- mushalain1



We do?!
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Big deal. We have enough 50-60 point players. Habs are full of 2nd line players. When we going to get the 80-100 point player? Been too long since Mats Naslund.
- mushalain1


this kind of attitude kills me.

Montreal had TWO forwards who scored more than 41 points last year. and you're telling me we have enough 50-60 point guys?
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