he paid his dues and is a changed man.

he will be the jets QB and him and chris johnson will be scary
- gerbe75pts

That is, until he gets hurt.

Because he will.

It sort if bothers me how some people treat dogs (or animals in general) as if they are as important or even more important than humans.

Let's face it, it's a dog
- sbroads24

You're dead to me.

It sort if bothers me how some people treat dogs (or animals in general) as if they are as important or even more important than humans.

Let's face it, it's a dog
- sbroads24

While owning a pet is like having another child, it should never be more important than your child.


The way people pamper their animals is sickening IMO.

I own two dogs and would be very sad if something happened to them. I value human life more though.

Pets can be replaced, People can't.


That said there are exceptions to this as there are insects I value over a few humans.

You're dead to me.
- grand-magus

I'm a dog person myself. But people go way overboard.

My sister tries to compare her dog to me having a daughter. Makes me laugh

I'm a dog person myself. But people go way overboard.

My sister tries to compare her dog to me having a daughter. Makes me laugh
- sbroads24

The thing is, animals like that can't fight back. Much like children.

I'm a dog person myself. But people go way overboard.

My sister tries to compare her dog to me having a daughter. Makes me laugh
- sbroads24

Having a child.



































Owning a pet.

The thing is, animals like that can't fight back. Much like children.
- grand-magus

Pets can be replace if something unfortunately happens to them.


Children can't.

It sort if bothers me how some people treat dogs (or animals in general) as if they are as important or even more important than humans.

Let's face it, it's a dog
- sbroads24

....... .........

I'm gonna pretend you didn't just say that.

Pets can be replace if something unfortunately happens to them.


Children can't.
- dadeadhead

Yup

....... .........

I'm gonna pretend you didn't just say that.
- gerbe75pts

If/when you have a child, you should feel differently

Unless your dog is Brian from Family Guy

Pets can be replace if something unfortunately happens to them.


Children can't.
- dadeadhead

You got me wrong.

I should have been more concise.

I'm not saying acts against a pet is comparable to acts against a child.

I'm saying they're both despicable because neither a child nor a pet can fight back.

(frank) Vick.

You got me wrong.

I should have been more concise.

I'm not saying acts against a pet is comparable to acts against a child.

I'm saying their both despicable because neither a child nor a pet can fight back.

(frank) Vick.
- grand-magus

A dog has more of a chance(depending on breed) than a child.



Again nothing he did was right.

He served his time and paid his dues. Time to move on.

Something many pro athletes haven't or will never do. And many of those crimes are worse.

You got me wrong.

I should have been more concise.

I'm not saying acts against a pet is comparable to acts against a child.

I'm saying they're both despicable because neither a child nor a pet can fight back.

(frank) Vick.
- grand-magus

Or acts against women.

Ray Rice goes money Mayweather on his fiancée and gets 2 games.... Complete joke

Or acts against women.

Ray Rice goes money Mayweather on his fiancée and gets 2 games.... Complete joke
- sbroads24

People act like Vick was a child toucher for what he did to dogs.



Rapists, murderers, and pedophiles are the only exceptions to the "They served their time, lets forgive and forget" rule.


The rest, they paid their debts to society. It's time to move on.

People act like Vick was a child toucher for what he did to dogs.



Rapists, murderers, and pedophiles are the only exceptions to the "They served their time, lets forgive and forget" rule.


The rest, they paid their debts to society. It's time to move on.
- dadeadhead

Speaking of Rapists, Darren Sharper should get life .

What a twisted dude

A dog has more of a chance(depending on breed) than a child.



Again nothing he did was right.

He served his time and paid his dues. Time to move on.

Something many pro athletes haven't or will never do. And many of those crimes are worse.
- dadeadhead

Keeping this very friendly, DD, it depends. If the dog has been beaten down so badly over time that it's will is broken, then it doesn't matter what breed it is.

Also, a child can speak up and tell someone if given the chance.

Again, both are abhorrent acts and an act against a human being is far and above worse, but as an almost obsessive lover of animals, I have no place in my thoughts for a scumbag such as Vick.

Let's ask the animals that are maimed or dead how they feel about Vick and his scumbag posse.

Just my opinion.

Speaking of Rapists, Darren Sharper should get life .

What a twisted dude
- sbroads24

Was a HOF player and had the world by the balls.


What a waste of human breath.

Keeping this very friendly, DD, it depends. If the dog has been beaten down so badly over time that it's will is broken, then it doesn't matter what breed it is.

Also, a child can speak up and tell someone if given the chance.

Again, both are abhorrent acts and an act against a human being is far and above worse, but as an almost obsessive lover of animals, I have no place in my thoughts for a scumbag such as Vick.

Let's ask the animals that are maimed or dead how they feel about Vick and his scumbag posse.

Just my opinion.
- grand-magus

What he did was awful. IMO, players have done worse and never went to prison or even missed a snap.

Keeping this very friendly, DD, it depends. If the dog has been beaten down so badly over time that it's will is broken, then it doesn't matter what breed it is.

Also, a child can speak up and tell someone if given the chance.

Again, both are abhorrent acts and an act against a human being is far and above worse, but as an almost obsessive lover of animals, I have no place in my thoughts for a scumbag such as Vick.

Let's ask the animals that are maimed or dead how they feel about Vick and his scumbag posse.

Just my opinion.
- grand-magus

Again he served his time and paid for his crime. People go bat sh!t crazy over things that IMO have nothing to do with them. If it were John Smith and not Michael Vick, no one would give a fvck. Gotta love the media.

IMO people should turn their energy into thing that really matter. Mike Vick and his crimes don't matter.



Keep in mind, I own two dogs and would miss them if something happened to them.

What he did was awful. IMO, players have done worse and never went to prison or even missed a snap.
- sbroads24

Agree.

The justice system strikes again.

What he did was awful. IMO, players have done worse and never went to prison or even missed a snap, swing, layup, or slapshot.
- sbroads24

Fixed

That is the point of what started this tangent IMO.


It's a fvcking joke!

Pets can be replace if something unfortunately happens to them.


Children can't.
- dadeadhead

You could never replace the 2 dogs I have now. Such unique personalities. They've made believers out of non believers. Jackson and Dahlia.

Again he served his time and paid for his crime. People go bat sh!t crazy over things that IMO have nothing to do with them. If it were John Smith and not Michael Vick, no one would give a fvck. Gotta love the media.

IMO people should turn their energy into thing that really matter. Mike Vick and his crimes don't matter.



Keep in mind, I own two dogs and would miss them if something happened to them.
- dadeadhead

I got a little guy right now (6 months, Boston Terrier-French Bulldog mix) that just melts my heavy metal heart

Named him Renfield, after the character in Dracula. Yes, he eats bugs...and anything else he can get a hold of.

I'm weak right now when it comes to animal discussions

Fixed

That is the point of what started this tangent IMO.


It's a fvcking joke!
- dadeadhead

True. Mac T killed someone. Granted he did time but still.

I hate to bring race into this but imagine if some random black kid from Buffalo knocked out a woman in an elevator or killed a guy in a DUI accident.... He'd be locked up longer than Aaron Hernandez

You could never replace the 2 dogs I have now. Such unique personalities. They've made believers out of non believers in dogs. Jackson and Dahlia.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Pets can be replaced. When something unfortunately happens to one, you eventually can go and buy another one when the time is right.


The loss of a child doesn't work that way.

With all due respect and not directed at you in any way, anyone that thinks otherwise needs to have their head examined.