Marc will take a little less as a FA to come to Carolina.

disagree

try being non bias to your team and look at it
- jake24242

I am. Brooks Orpik isn't as good as Girardi, Staal or Mcdonagh. Orpik has been on decline for years. He now has almost no foot speed and is 33. Thank you.

Most people throughout hockey figured Staal would make team Canada before he had one season derailed by a concussion and another by the freak eye injury. He was as good as it gets in his own zone and finally starting to jump into the play more and show his skating and stick handling ability. In my opinion he is a top 20 defenseman in the NHL right now if those two events don't occur. He was about 90% back to the Marc Staal we know by the end of this year. He shut down giroux and Crosby in consecutive playoff series. His career will only trend upwards from here on out.
- mjh609

Girardi, McDonagh and Staal is an excellent top 3 guys to have.

Marc will take a little less as a FA to come to Carolina.
- ward30nhl

Strong possibility but I think you guys struggle and they start selling off staals. Jordan first

Most people throughout hockey figured Staal would make team Canada before he had one season derailed by a concussion and another by the freak eye injury. He was as good as it gets in his own zone and finally starting to jump into the play more and show his skating and stick handling ability. In my opinion he is a top 20 defenseman in the NHL right now if those two events don't occur. He was about 90% back to the Marc Staal we know by the end of this year. He shut down giroux and Crosby in consecutive playoff series. His career will only trend upwards from here on out.
- mjh609

Isnt he 29

Isnt he 29
- jake24242

27. Won't turn 29 until January 13th, 2016

I am. Brooks Orpik isn't as good as Girardi, Staal or Mcdonagh. Orpik has been on decline for years. He now has almost no foot speed and is 33. Thank you.
- tomburton99

Disagree on not as good as Girardi and staal but agree on loss of foot speed.

Isnt he 29
- jake24242

27, right in his prime

27. Won't turn 29 until January 13th, 2016
- tomburton99

Knew it was a odd number couldnt remember what one. So ya hes been in his prime now for a year id say.

Isnt he 29
- jake24242

He's 27 actually

He's 27 actually
- mjh609

Yep above posts covered that

Knew it was a odd number couldnt remember what one. So ya hes been in his prime now for a year id say.
- jake24242

Except he lost 2 years of development.

Disagree on not as good as Girardi and staal but agree on loss of foot speed.
- jake24242

Do you want me to use practical stats or advanced stats to prove my case?

Do you want me to use practical stats or advanced stats to prove my case?
- tomburton99

Go for it I already looked need to chill out a lil bud

Go for it I already looked need to chill out a lil bud
- jake24242

So now your just flapping you lips? I have no doubt that Girardi or Staal are not elite, complete defensemen. However, I both are better than Brooks Orpik and it's not really a debate.

So now your just flapping you lips? I have no doubt that Girardi or Staal are not elite, complete defensemen. However, I both are better than Brooks Orpik and it's not really a debate.
- tomburton99

Girardi and M Staal are tweener Number 2/3 dmen depending not he team. Any teams will be lucky to have them and will instantly stabilize the 1st or 2nd pairings. Cant knock those guys

So now your just flapping you lips? I have no doubt that Girardi or Staal are not elite, complete defensemen. However, I both are better than Brooks Orpik and it's not really a debate.
- tomburton99

Well if you could read at more then a grade 2 level you would realize that I said I already looked at the stats and I still stand at what I said the stats prove it.

Clearly is a debat cause your wrong kiddie

Well if you could read at more then a grade 2 level you would realize that I said I already looked at the stats and I still stand at what I said the stats prove it.

Clearly is a debat cause your wrong kiddie
- jake24242

Advanced Stats

Brooks Orpik:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/11/brooks-orpik

Dan Girardi:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/124/dan-girardi
(Better Regular season, worse playoffs)

Mar Staal:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/135/marc-staal
(Self explanitory)

Shall we go into the more traditonal stats to prove my point? We can if you want.

Advanced Stats

Brooks Orpik:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/11/brooks-orpik

Dan Girardi:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/124/dan-girardi
(Better Regular season, worse playoffs)

Mar Staal:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/135/marc-staal
(Self explanitory)

Shall we go into the more traditonal stats to prove my point? We can if you want.
- tomburton99

Again right there proves it

Advanced Stats

Brooks Orpik:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/11/brooks-orpik

Dan Girardi:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/124/dan-girardi
(Better Regular season, worse playoffs)

Mar Staal:
http://www.extraskater.com/player/135/marc-staal
(Self explanitory)

Shall we go into the more traditonal stats to prove my point? We can if you want.
- tomburton99

I dont know what I'm looking at...all i see is this

I dont see 7Mil for a shut down defensmen that contract would be worse then Dion's

Who plays pure shut down D and gets over 5 mil currently in the NHL? I know L. Schenn is up there but id say stall is better but that contract is bad to.

He shouldn't get anymore then Stralman did when he left. Around the same points, hits and blocks.
- jake24242

Then You are saying Stralman is quite overpaid?
Cuz Staal is quite a bit better than Stralman.

I dont know what I'm looking at...all i see is this

- DDM-Coga

gd night all

Don't know if they can afford him. Kreider, Hag, Stepan, Zuccs all do for some rather large raises next year.
Don't think it'd be the end of the world if the Rangers let him walk, but it'd be sad (from a Rangers fan prospective I can imagine) to see a home grown walk.

Again right there proves it
- jake24242

That both Girardi and Staal were better this year, especoially in the regular season.

Then You are saying Stralman is quite overpaid?
Cuz Staal is quite a bit better than Stralman.
- BobbySchmautz

Look at the stats between the 2 and say that.