Fixed.
- MidnightMarauder

the problem is that when Kreider went down, he went down skates up

ALL TIME

1) Patrick Roy
The ultimate competitor, fantastic glove. You love(d) to hate him but he was the best.
2) Dominik Hasek
Completely unorthodox, broke all the rules of the position and many opponents’ hearts.
3) Jacques Plante
Stand up netminder, succeeded Hall, preceded Esposito/Dryden as the NHL’s best in his era.
4) Ken Dryden
Came out of Cornell University in the early 70’s to dominate for some great Canadien teams. Huge netminder, also technically brilliant.
5) Martin Brodeur
Brilliant butterfly goaltender has anchored some great New Jersey Devil clubs.
6) Terry Sawchuk
Held together with stitches and gauze, Sawchuk battled through multiple injuries to put together an awesome set of career stats for 5 teams over 21 years.
7) Tony Esposito
Hard to argue with the results of this rangy, left handed goaltender
8) Glenn Hall
Rock solid ‘keeper for three teams in the 50’s and 60’s.
9) Bernie Parent
Stylistically similar to his mentor Plante, Parent was best known for his amazing kick saves.
10) Charlie Gardiner/Bill Durnan (tie)
Two goaltenders of the NHL’s earlier years, both with great credentials, both whose careers were cut short

Have to say that Roy doesn't rate as number one. I'd put Broduer, Hasek Plante, Sawchuk, Hall, Durnan ahead of him. Dryden is also not up there as high as 4th. Maybe not even top 10. You're also leaving out Hainsworth, Brimsek, Rayner, guys who played on awful teams at times and have been widely acknowledged as excellent goalies by their peers of the day. And where do you rate Broda, Joseph, Lumley, Chabot, Connell, Bower, Worsley?

Will make for a fun debate. But Roy #1, nope, not in my mind.

the problem is that when Kreider went down, he went down skates up
- FourFeathers773

Didn't know there was an etiquette to falling after you get blatantly tripped when going full speed towards a goaltender.

Kreider is one of the five fastest skaters in the league; it's kind of insane that people think that he tried to hurt Price. He was actually trying to score; Emelin used his stick as a slingslot in order to slow Kreider down.

The amount of time, between Kreider falling and hitting into Price, was at best one second. Hard to fault a player in not thinking how he could avoid injury, to he or Price, in the amount of time he had to brace himself.

Whats that have to do with how things changed after game 1??

Taking away a teams best player obviously changes the whole scope of the series and how it is won and lost

MTL was cooked once Price went down
- FourFeathers773

Series change, that's why you play the games. But before the series started Habs were favord to win, don't say they were. I can make excuses too.

Didn't know there was an etiquette to falling after you get blatantly tripped when going full speed towards a goaltender.

Kreider is one of the five fastest skaters in the league; it's kind of insane that people think that he tried to hurt Price. He was actually trying to score; Emelin used his stick as a slingslot in order to slow Kreider down.

The amount of time, between Kreider falling and hitting into Price, was at best one second. Hard to fault a player in not thinking how he could avoid injury, to he or Price, in the amount of time he had to brace himself.
- MidnightMarauder

Lets be honest, most of us play/played hockey and know how to fall. 99 times out of a 100, when a player falls, they dont go skates up, especially when crashing into others and/or the boards. Most players either turtle up or tuck their knees in and let the shin pads take the brunt of the impact

Series change, that's why you play the games. But before the series started Habs were favord to win, don't say they were. I can make excuses too.
- tomburton99

Montreal was another marginal favorite especially since they just beat BOS, and NYR just beat PIT, lets also not forget MTL was not the favorite at all anymore once Price went down

reading comprehension is fun, i clearly stated MTL was favored before the series

Lets be honest, most of us play/played hockey and know how to fall. 99 times out of a 100, when a player falls, they dont go skates up, especially when crashing into others and/or the boards. Most players either turtle up or tuck their knees in and let the shin pads take the brunt of the impact
- FourFeathers773

Most of us that played, myself included, skated at half the speed Kreider does. It makes a big difference when the reaction time is increased. Kreider literally turned Emelin inside out and was on the verge of scoring on Price before he got chopped at his legs while going full speed.

Us going full speed is one thing; one of the fastest skaters, in the best hockey league in the world, is an entirely different level.

Brodeur also played on a great New Jersey team. His save percentage was good but not top quality. He won so many games because of New Jersey's system and the low scoring era he played in is why he has so many shutouts. Nice to have Niedermeyer, Stevens, Rafalski, etc. in front of you too, especially with a high scoring offence. I think Brodeur is behind both Roy (2) and Hasek (1). I haven't had the luxury to see any of the others play so he would be third on my list.
- Peterg

Right and Roy had the opportunity to play on very good Montreal and Colorado teams. Point being what?? Those teams were on par or better than them Devils teams that Brodeur played on. Don't forget that Roy and Hasek played during the same time period as Brodeur and only Roy is close to the numbers that Brodeur put up. How can you say that it was a low scoring era, but the Devils had a high scoring offence?? So they were the only team that had both.....Hmmmm..

Now Brodeur isn't my favorite goaltender of all time, but you can't argue what he has accomplished.

Hasek was a beast and as if Chicago traded him for what became Christian Ruuttu. Belfour should have went, but hindsight is 20/20..Hasek is the all time best in my opinion. Imagine what he could have done if he was in the league earlier than he was, and if he had of stayed in Chicago.

Blues don't allow a lot of goals his numbers are going to be good. He already has 16 SO's in the last three years starting like 30 games per year.
- Yeah Boyes

Yes you are correct. If the Blues do not allow a lot of goals his numbers will be good. But I believe they will let more goals in than you think.

Just busting balls, I know you meant shots.

Montreal was another marginal favorite especially since they just beat BOS, and NYR just beat PIT, lets also not forget MTL was not the favorite at all anymore once Price went down

reading comprehension is fun, i clearly stated MTL was favored before the series
- FourFeathers773

then you made an excuse. The series changes after every game.

Wanna know how I know you're wrong about Brodeur?
He's not a butterfly goaltender

Whats that have to do with how things changed after game 1??

Taking away a teams best player obviously changes the whole scope of the series and how it is won and lost

MTL was cooked once Price went down
- FourFeathers773

I really don't think we were considered favorite in any series. The Philly series was deemed a toss up at best. At worst, Philly was the favorite because the Rangers struggled all year at home and were too soft for playoff Philly hockey. Also, Ryan McDonagh was injured badly.

Against Pitt, we were seen as the infinitely less skilled team.

Against Montreal, we were the underdog where Lundqvist was about to play in his house of horrors. He hadn't won in Montreal since 2009 and PK Subban is coming off a series where he could be put in the conversation as the best player remaining in the playoffs. Yes Price was injured but we kind of dominated Montreal besides that and Tokarski stuffed us plenty.

All I remember is articles upon articles being posted in our board before every series clamoring how we had overachieved and how we were going to get destroyed in the next series. Ken Campbell anyone?

Yeah sure...I like being a utensil.....I like your blogs John. Especially these blogs where you give your perspective. I much rather that then getting scoup's from the sources...Ha.

What's debatable about Brodeur owning the records. That's fact..

No mention of Hardy Åström??
- _diatribe_

K, so like when I get a scoop like the Hawks being in the Winter Classic, for example, I should just not . . . publish . . . because . . . ?

Further, regardless of the records, which have to be teased out of the quality of the teams he and others played behind, what's debatable is who really was the best when all else is equal.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

Goalies can go from awesome to poop so fast in the NHL we need to see at least 2-3 years of awesomeness before being included in any sort of top 10 lists. I'm looking at you Bishop!
- 1979AD

Guess I don't need to post my thoughts.. They're right here ^

Brian Elliott will sneak onto this top ten after this year.
- Yeah Boyes

Funny, i like Elliott a lot too.

Wanna know how I know you're wrong about Brodeur?
He's not a butterfly goaltender
- newjerseypaul

Correct, he is really hybrid. As is Anderson for that matter. Good catch.

I can't take this list seriously if Jocelyn Thibault is not on the All-Time Top 10! and how could you leave off Ondrej Pavelec and Ray Emery on the current Top 10?? blasphemy.

Fixed.
- MidnightMarauder

I was just (frank)ing around. Didnt mean to hit a sore spot for Rangers fans

King Henrik, Rask, Quick and maybe Nemo I could understand but I must defend Crawfish, Obviously bias opinion, I will take a goalie with hardware rather than a goalie who preforms very well in the regular season. Crawfish earned my ultimate respect when he bounced back from that terrible goal in game six at the Joe during the second cup run.

Funny, i like Elliott a lot too.
- John Jaeckel

I think he's in a good position to put up big numbers this year. Time will tell.

I think he's in a good position to put up big numbers this year. Time will tell.
- Yeah Boyes

Big goals against numbers, HA!

Didn't know there was an etiquette to falling after you get blatantly tripped when going full speed towards a goaltender.

Kreider is one of the five fastest skaters in the league; it's kind of insane that people think that he tried to hurt Price. He was actually trying to score; Emelin used his stick as a slingslot in order to slow Kreider down.

The amount of time, between Kreider falling and hitting into Price, was at best one second. Hard to fault a player in not thinking how he could avoid injury, to he or Price, in the amount of time he had to brace himself.
- MidnightMarauder

I'll give Kreider the benefit of the doubt.

the only issue is Price was his 3rd victim in his career. He is a fast skater, crashes the net and sticks get in the way. However, it's not looking good for him.

It's interesting how Ryan Miller has fallen completely out of the discussion. On a terrible Buffalo team, he was facing a ton of high quality scoring chances a night and played stellar. His entire career he's been consistently an elite goalie. He got traded and had a bad 2 months to end the season and all of a sudden the first 75% of the regular season and his entire career don't matter? This really is a "what have you done for me lately" kind of league.

I'll give Kreider the benefit of the doubt.

the only issue is Price was his 3rd victim in his career. He is a fast skater, crashes the net and sticks get in the way. However, it's not looking good for him.
- l3ig_l2ecl

I don't think he cares how it's looking for him.

It's interesting how Ryan Miller has fallen completely out of the discussion. On a terrible Buffalo team, he was facing a ton of high quality scoring chances a night and played stellar. His entire career he's been consistently an elite goalie. He got traded and had a bad 2 months to end the season and all of a sudden the first 75% of the regular season and his entire career don't matter? This really is a "what have you done for me lately" kind of league.
- rangerdanger94

Meh, (frank) Miller. Loser cant even win a gold medal.