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StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 1 @ 4:56 PM ET
Be a better option than dan (frank)ing ellis.
- Elbows15


There is no good option if Crawford goes down.

Raanta, Carruth, Simpson, Ellis, some other old, almost-minimum-wage has been (or never was) - if Crawford misses the tournament, the Hawks are out in the first round. Unfortunately, the system will not provide a good solution for that.

What they need to be looking for is the best option to give Crawford sufficient rest so he can go into the play-offs in his best condition, mentally and physically - and Q is going to have to play that option without regard to regular season wins and losses.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 1 @ 5:06 PM ET
There is no good option if Crawford goes down.

Raanta, Carruth, Simpson, Ellis, some other old, almost-minimum-wage has been (or never was) - if Crawford misses the tournament, the Hawks are out in the first round. Unfortunately, the system will not provide a good solution for that.

What they need to be looking for is the best option to give Crawford sufficient rest so he can go into the play-offs in his best condition, mentally and physically - and Q is going to have to play that option without regard to regular season wins and losses.

- StLBravesFan



I remember people saying that any goalie could play well behind our defense (I never agreed). It's nice to see we've finally moved past that.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Aug 1 @ 5:33 PM ET
There is no good option if Crawford goes down.

Raanta, Carruth, Simpson, Ellis, some other old, almost-minimum-wage has been (or never was) - if Crawford misses the tournament, the Hawks are out in the first round. Unfortunately, the system will not provide a good solution for that.

What they need to be looking for is the best option to give Crawford sufficient rest so he can go into the play-offs in his best condition, mentally and physically - and Q is going to have to play that option without regard to regular season wins and losses.

- StLBravesFan


That last line all day long
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 5:33 PM ET
I would expect a older veteran goalie to be signed too. Even if Crawford gets hurt and Raanta is ok as the temporary #1 we'll still need a back-up. Unfortunately there isn't a lot to choose from in the UFA market.
- DarthKane


Khoudobin i feel like was an after thought last season but he ended up being ok. Carter freakin Hutton had a nice season last year. Never know what guys can do until they get a chance
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 1 @ 6:47 PM ET
Both of those kids. Crawford wasn't exactly prime material at their age either. The whole league knows Ellis is terrible. Why bother with him. And him playing in Rockford just further limits any possible development that Simpson or Carruth can gain. Goalies are funny. Some develop right away and others take more time. I would rather invest the time in their development than having a hanger on like Elllis.
- Elbows15

Might one also say the same of very young puck moving defensemen?
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 1 @ 6:50 PM ET
Might one also say the same of very young puck moving defensemen?
- Ogilthorpe2


Troublemaker.

Pot stirrer.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 1 @ 7:01 PM ET
There is no good option if Crawford goes down.

Raanta, Carruth, Simpson, Ellis, some other old, almost-minimum-wage has been (or never was) - if Crawford misses the tournament, the Hawks are out in the first round. Unfortunately, the system will not provide a good solution for that.

What they need to be looking for is the best option to give Crawford sufficient rest so he can go into the play-offs in his best condition, mentally and physically - and Q is going to have to play that option without regard to regular season wins and losses.

- StLBravesFan


Cue the Brodeur speculation
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 1 @ 8:39 PM ET
all time

1. Roy
2. Dryden
3. Brodeur
4. Hasek
5. Sawchuk
6. Plante
7. Parent
8. Broda
9. Tretiak
10. Hall

present

1. Quick
2. Lundqvist
3. Rinne
4. Price
5. Luongo
6. Niemi
7. Rask
8. Howard
9. Bobrovsky
10. Schneider
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 1 @ 8:46 PM ET
all time

1. Roy
2. Dryden
3. Brodeur
4. Hasek
5. Sawchuk
6. Plante
7. Parent
8. Broda
9. Tretiak
10. Hall

present

1. Quick
2. Lundqvist
3. Rinne
4. Price
5. Luongo
6. Niemi
7. Rask
8. Howard
9. Bobrovsky
10. Schneider

- mhp


Surprised to see Howard there. I'd rank him with Mason and Pavalec.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 1 @ 8:52 PM ET
Surprised to see Howard there. I'd rank him with Mason and Pavalec.
- DarthKane



He didn't have a great year statistically but in the previous 2 years he had 11 shutouts and a 2.13 in each of those years.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 1 @ 9:19 PM ET
ugh work went worse than I thought and now I can't find the eilliott work I did when someone asked before.....

will take more time to answer you JJ....

I do know this... In the playoffs, with the Blues he has a 91.1% save percentage and a 2.16 goals against average. If you exclude the two games where we was definitely injured (could argue to exclude one more but not doing that for this), his numbers improve to 92.8% and 1.76 gaa. Don't read more into that statement than the stats line looks good. More to come later.

Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:00 PM ET
all time

1. Roy
2. Dryden
3. Brodeur
4. Hasek
5. Sawchuk
6. Plante
7. Parent
8. Broda
9. Tretiak
10. Hall

present

1. Quick
2. Lundqvist
3. Rinne
4. Price
5. Luongo
6. Niemi
7. Rask
8. Howard
9. Bobrovsky
10. Schneider

- mhp


Again with the Niemi love.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 1 @ 11:21 PM ET
but there's nothing really happening
and the place is dead as Heaven on a Saturday night
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 1 @ 11:24 PM ET
Bad looking injury for Paul George with Team USA in Vegas.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:28 PM ET
Mmmkay.
- Ogilthorpe2

Whateva. you asked.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Aug 2 @ 12:09 AM ET
Bad looking injury for Paul George with Team USA in Vegas.
- StLBravesFan


Like Kevin Ware all over again. Just sickening.....Hope he makes a full recovery.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 2 @ 12:27 AM ET
Bad looking injury for Paul George with Team USA in Vegas.
- StLBravesFan

What's a Paul George?
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 2 @ 2:20 AM ET
What's a Paul George?
- Ogilthorpe2


Indiana Pacer forward playing for the USA national team.

His shinbone snapped, after a defensive play - gruesome picture on you-tube.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Aug 2 @ 2:54 AM ET
Niemi sucks...ECHL goalies have better rebound control
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 2 @ 3:30 AM ET
Niemi sucks...ECHL goalies have better rebound control
- EnzoD

Whom is going to be the designated fighter: no one, tbd, Johns once he gets here, someone through trade?

Bollig is gone and so too is anyone whom would engage in or answer for his team when rough play caused temper to flare.
dpard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: My preferred gender pronoun is "Corn Pop"
Joined: 04.18.2011

Aug 2 @ 8:33 AM ET
mornin kids - back from a brief respite - I think its a bad move by the habs to go to arb with PK.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Aug 2 @ 9:21 AM ET
ugh work went worse than I thought and now I can't find the eilliott work I did when someone asked before.....

will take more time to answer you JJ....

I do know this... In the playoffs, with the Blues he has a 91.1% save percentage and a 2.16 goals against average. If you exclude the two games where we was definitely injured (could argue to exclude one more but not doing that for this), his numbers improve to 92.8% and 1.76 gaa. Don't read more into that statement than the stats line looks good. More to come later.

- stljam

Forget about stats for a minute.

When he has played, there have been so many times where he looks really bad and it has been a great thing that the Blues have limited the number of chances. He has given up some bad goals late, He doesn't give me any confidence going into a series against the Hawks or Kings. We have to badly outplay either team to win. Like a huge margin, and that is asking a lot.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Aug 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
Rinnie better than Price.... lol.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:42 AM ET
Rinnie better than Price.... lol.
- Oilers4Life14

Oilers...lol.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Rinnie better than Price.... lol.
- Oilers4Life14


Not last year.

I don't think Rinne will ever be the goal tender we saw in 10-11-12.

That labral tear will probably lead to other issues. Maybe the worst injury a goalie can have. The chances he fully recovers are slim. That is the risk with committing that sort of money long term. For a budget team like the Preds - already messed with by the OS on Weber - the contract of Rinne will be a killer if he doesn't make it back close to 100%.

Of course, in Europe he has access to blood oxygenation and other treatments not available here so that may make a difference.
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