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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 31 @ 3:45 PM ET
This is a really (frank)ing cool picture. Richie has won everywhere he can. Incredible.
- Giroux_Is_God

That's Carter's haul although I don't think Richards would be much different.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 3:46 PM ET
That's Carter's haul although I don't think Richards would be much different.
- mayorofangrytown


They're the same, essentially -- they won WJC gold together

(For the record, that WJC team they won with has long been noted as the best WJC team ever, with these notables):
Shea Weber
Braydon Coburn
Dion Phaneuf
Brent Seabrook
Jeff Carter
Mike Richards
Patrice Bergeron
Sidney Crosby
Ryan Getzlaf
Corey Perry
Andrew Ladd
Clarke MacArthur
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
They're the same, essentially -- they won WJC gold together
- AllInForFlyers

I think the difference is Carter has a U18 that Richie doesn't have, while Richie has a Memorial Cup that Carter doesn't have
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 31 @ 3:48 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown

Is this Carter again? Didn't know he had a tattoo....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 31 @ 3:54 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown


Ok, the first picture was cool.

This is the single, douchiest picture ever.

Right up to and including the tattoo, which I believe is the ancient Asian symbol for "bag filled with douche".
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
Damn...doing a little research, here are a few of the guys who got cut from that WJC team:
Mike Green
Dave Bolland
Kyle Quincey
Eric Fehr
and, one-time Flyers defenseman...Alexandre Picard
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 3:59 PM ET
Damn...David Price just got flipped to the Tigers in a three-way deal with Seattle

I'll post details in a second

EDIT: Looks like it's this:
Austin Jackson will go to the Mariners, per a tweet from Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com, with Nick Franklin and Drew Smyly heading to Tampa, according to Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune (via Twitter).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 31 @ 4:00 PM ET
Price to the Tigers....yowza

Arms race (litrilly) between the A's and Tigers, methinks
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 4:02 PM ET
OUCH

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 2m

No trades for #Phillies.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 4:03 PM ET
I like Recchi but the ease in which players make it into the HOF is pretty weak.
- Flyersgod


Just unbelievable the amount of HOF that have graced the ice in Philly.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 31 @ 4:05 PM ET
OUCH

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 2m

No trades for #Phillies.

- AllInForFlyers

Ruin Tomorrow Junior is on the case!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 31 @ 4:05 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Giroux, Draft Re-Entries and More
- bmeltzer


ahhh...good old any "delorme". one of gary thorne's more egregious mispronunciations.

i have high hopes for pitbull. just have a good feeling about him.

insert GIF here.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Jul 31 @ 4:05 PM ET
Last season the Cap was 64.3M. This season it is 69M. You call it a MJL hypothetical, well I'll educate you on something here. Whenever you're dealing with the Cap in the future, it is a hypothetical. Because so much is unknown. With the biggest unknown being what the Upper limit will be for the 15/16 season. Clearly what is being seen here is a common case of cap panic among the fanbase.
- MJL


The only really tricky part with the cap is figuring out how much the owners will try to claw back when the next CBA expires. When that happens again, teams will have their couple compliance buyouts again. Otherwise, it's really not tough to predict that it's going up roughly $4-5 M per year until then and be close to being spot on. We've got about 10 years under the cap system now, so there's plenty of data to base reasonable projections on. A par player, the cap divided by 22 roster spots, is a bit over $3 M . . . and that's about what 15 goal a year guys are getting.

I'm certainly not cap panicked because I think this is a transition year anyway. My biggest concern is the team is built sort of backwards. The top scorers up front will have peaked out offensively by the time the prospect defensemen will be up to speed. That means we're likely some ways away from serious cup contention.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 4:06 PM ET
OUCH

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 2m

No trades for #Phillies.

- AllInForFlyers


Stay the course
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 31 @ 4:07 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint


it's funny every time, particularly the 3rd carcillo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 31 @ 4:10 PM ET
The only really tricky part with the cap is figuring out how much the owners will try to claw back when the next CBA expires. When that happens again, teams will have their couple compliance buyouts again. Otherwise, it's really not tough to predict that it's going up roughly $4-5 M per year until then and be close to being spot on. We've got about 10 years under the cap system now, so there's plenty of data to base reasonable projections on. A par player, the cap divided by 22 roster spots, is a bit over $3 M . . . and that's about what 15 goal a year guys are getting.


- fls13


Yea, another lockout is inevitable. I think that's spot on. But I could see it going up even more then that as the full effects of the new tv contract kicks in.


I'm certainly not cap panicked because I think this is a transition year anyway. My biggest concern is the team is built sort of backwards. The top scorers up front will have peaked out offensively by the time the prospect defensemen will be up to speed. That means we're likely some ways away from serious cup contention.

- fls13



That discussion was about Chicago and their situation. As far as the Flyers are concerned. If the right move to trade for a defenseman, or as a UFA presents itself, they have to make it. They can't afford to sit back and wait.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 31 @ 4:11 PM ET
Sell! Sell!


- wolfhounds


"YOU IDIOT!!!"
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
Ruin Tomorrow Junior is on the case!
- Giroux_Is_God


They won a title so the players get slack, but that guy has got to go
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 31 @ 4:14 PM ET
Ruin Tomorrow Junior is on the case!
- Giroux_Is_God


Holmgren Jr.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 31 @ 4:16 PM ET
This is a really (frank)ing cool picture. Richie has won everywhere he can. Incredible.
- Giroux_Is_God


he's won everywhere, except the place that matters.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 31 @ 4:16 PM ET
They won a title so the players get slack, but that guy has got to go
- AllInForFlyers

Exactly. Gillick was the mastermind there.

Amaro....all I can think of when McCrosky has the mic still on, so Striker can still hear him, and he says to his partner in the air traffic control tower, "Just route em into Lake Michigan! ...avoid killing innocent people..."

JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jul 31 @ 4:16 PM ET
Amaro
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 31 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 4m
Numerous reports say #Astros have traded Jarred Cosart to #Marlins.

Phillies traded him as part of package for Pence. Now he will torment us for years.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 31 @ 4:18 PM ET
Holmgren Jr.
- PLindbergh31

twittily dee and twittily dum
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