Karlsson makes 6.5. Chara 6.9. Mcdonaugh 4.7. Pietrangelo 6.5
- GardinerExpress

Chara was pre lockout
McDonough -25 yrs old
Karlsson -24 yrs old
Alex p - 24 years old

Teams bought ufa years on all these players

ok so you are bringing up a guy that has been retired 15 years to make your point? pretty dumb.
How about Pietrangelo, Karlsson and Mcdonaugh. They make 4.7-6.5. no cap circumventing.

I hope PK wrangles every cent out of the habs. 9, 9.5 whatever. Highest paid d-man in league history and the guy is top 10 at best
- GardinerExpress

PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?

PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?
- elcabong

"Hey Marty your'e on Subby Cam..hey Pricey, say something!"

Chara was pre lockout
McDonough -25 yrs old
Karlsson -24 yrs old
Alex p - 24 years old

Teams bought ufa years on all these players
- MTL1

PK 25 years old. team planning to buy UFA years. so why is it gonna cost 2-2.5 mil more per year?

"Hey Marty your'e on Subby Cam..hey Pricey, say something!"
- GardinerExpress

livid.

PK 25 years old. team planning to buy UFA years. so why is it gonna cost 2-2.5 mil more per year?
- GardinerExpress

That's their current ages - they have played a year or 2 already off their deals at 24/25

Pk at 25 is about to sign a new deal

Once people can understand that then the pk bridge contract will make more sense

That's their current ages - they have played a year or 2 already off their deals
25 at 25 is about to sign a new deal

Once people can understand that then the pk bridge contract will make more sense
- MTL1

yeah awesome. Cant wait to here about how the habs are actually gonna save money in 2020

Watch out could get banned for that. I'm pretty sure some people got banned yesterday for making clitsome jokes.
- JVR_42_PK81

It's about staying on topic. Nowhere in Ek's blog was Reimer or any Leaf mentioned.

all this talk of Subban getting 9 million plus a year is crazy.

He should end up with a contract like Doughty has, something like 7 million a year. If he wants to be like Crosby, give him 7.6 million a year so it matches his number.

PK does get into your heads, doesn't he?
- elcabong

I wonder what the leafs record was after the jvr jersey tug mocking pk

ok so you are bringing up a guy that has been retired 15 years to make your point? pretty dumb.
How about Pietrangelo, Karlsson and Mcdonaugh. They make 4.7-6.5. no cap circumventing.

I hope PK wrangles every cent out of the habs. 9, 9.5 whatever. Highest paid d-man in league history and the guy is top 10 at best
- GardinerExpress

All 3 players you just named signed straight out of entry level, resulting in 4 of their 7 year contracts being RFA years. PK's last contract was essentially what he signed when in the same position as those players.

Now he's only 2 years away from UFA.


The point I've been making for 3 posts, and the reason I went to the extreme measure of bringing up Gretzky to try and drive home a point, is you're comparing contracts that aren't being signed in the same career or monetary situations, it's useless.

A TV used to cost $200, now they're $1000.

Thanks for the update. Never have really got why you can't trade players on the LTIR.
- JVR_42_PK81

Would you go buy a new car with no engine or doors on the car
Similar to that

all this talk of Subban getting 9 million plus a year is crazy.

He should end up with a contract like Doughty has, something like 7 million a year. If he wants to be like Crosby, give him 7.6 million a year so it matches his number.
- jimbro83

Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?

Great player. So dynamic. But imo one cant be considered a top 5 defenceman unless theyre just as dominant in their own end.
He isnt that just yet
- hugefemale dog77

top 5 is a stretch and i don't think he's in there.
you're right about being dominant in his own zone--he's not, at all. but i do get a kick out of people talking about him being a defensive liability.

Another issue is coaching and how PK feels about the current coaching situation Montreal. We saw last year and the plows how PK grew frustrated by his playing time or situation she was being put into

um, what?

holy smokes this is brutal writing.
- mark_laforest

yeah that was embarrassing. even by this site's standards. it's like Ek was having a stroke as he wrote it.

"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.

Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?
- BashCH

don't bother with these explanations. basic economics are lost on the majority of this crowd.

don't bother with these explanations. basic economics are lost on the majority of this crowd.
- DoubleDown

I'm losing my mind with all the people comparing contracts at face value with no regard to context or situation.

Those contracts were given in different situations. How much do you think Tavares will make in his next contract ? Less than Crosby?
- BashCH

Tavares will be a UFA his next contract, not still an RFA

"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.
- NugentHallberle

Karlsson... i don't think you can really compare Karlsson to any other defencemen. but OEL and Seabrook over Subban? you're going to be alone on that one.

Tavares will be a UFA his next contract, not still an RFA
- jimbro83

Doughty had 4 years of RFA left, Subban only has 2, and it's a different CBA and higher cap

"I know it is it is a debatable point, but in my opinion he's one of the top five defenseman the NHL" - Eklund

Chara
Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
Suter

All substantially better d-men than Subban... You could even throw in Karlsson, OEL, and Seabrook who I'd take over PK. I'd say he's in the Top 10 at the most.

That said, he's still worth $8MM/yr at this point.
- NugentHallberle

So according to you, he's not worthy to be in their company but should get paid more than they do?

Karlsson... i don't think you can really compare Karlsson to any other defencemen. but OEL and Seabrook over Subban? you're going to be alone on that one.

- DoubleDown

Even Chara. He's still good but starting to get pretty old.

I'm losing my mind with all the people comparing contracts at face value, with no regard to context or situation.
- ehabs9

Words of wisdom from one of the greatest poster on HB

They are haters of the Habs. They will always exist, because any team with the history that the Habs have, regardless of their struggles since 1993, will promote jealousy. These comments and such, are the result of that.