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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
Found time in between looking at naked women all day
- PhillySportsGuy


he's a busy man
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
Let's be honest, he's a decent side show but we're wait for Jsaq and MJL to continue their stat discussion. It's the summer of discontent.
- mayorofangrytown

Not happening, Captain Tooth Decay..
How's the teeth
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
i had no idea giroux was old and breaking down
- -davies-

stick a fork in him ma, he's toast
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
i had no idea giroux was old and breaking down
- -davies-

That's why being here day in and day out is the most important thing you do.

knowledge... bringing it to your face.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
I certainly agree about the mix issue. But saying they suck is innacurate in my opinion. If they get the proper support, the Flyers defense is a solid group.
- MJL

Support from whom? The forwards? The forwards are mostly pinned in their own end trying to help the defense and by the time they finally "chip" it out. They are dead tired. Line change!
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:53 PM ET
stick a fork in him ma, he's toast
- aightwebang17


well that bites the big one
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 30 @ 2:54 PM ET
stick a fork in him ma, he's toast
- aightwebang17

is it too late to get those four draft picks?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
Not happening, Captain Tooth Decay..
How's the teeth

- Jsaquella

The broken tooth train continues. It's always a good time because the bone has almost always fused to my teeth so it's not just an extraction it's a surgery and they can rarely get all of it. Follow up x-rays on Monday.

Edit: Apple Pie yogurt is not at all like Apple Pie.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
You might be interested in this one:
http://nhlnumbers.com/201...a-for-the-wild-and-flyers

Edit: Oops, fixed link.

- Tomahawk


Thanks for this. One thing I'm not clear about is dump ins for line changes (1/3 to 1/2 of all changes?). That happens a lot, maybe the last guy on the ice does a half hearted forecheck sweep through the zone and heads to the bench. That's obviously going to bring down that "Shots against per entry w/out possession" stat and it really isn't a play expected to generate offense, it's really more a strategic defensive move.

I see these stats as potentially very useful but still a work in progress. Never liked the current PP/PK stats. Should be goals per 120 seconds, that's the real measure of your special teams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
Support from whom? The forwards? The forwards are mostly pinned in their own end trying to help the defense and by the time they finally "chip" it out. They are dead tired. Line change!
- GOA88



Okay, so far it's the defense sucks and the forwards are tired from helping out the sucky defense. Do I have that right?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 30 @ 3:09 PM ET
is it too late to get those four draft picks?
- BulliesPhan87

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 3:10 PM ET
is it too late to get those four draft picks?
- BulliesPhan87

Isn't it more important that we free up the cap space?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 30 @ 3:17 PM ET
stick a fork in him ma, he's toast
- aightwebang17

Why the (frank) are we sticking toast with a fork? Who does that?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 30 @ 3:18 PM ET
I was hoping for Hextall to make some changes to this team during off season, even if it was just picking up a proven NHL player who could help with speed and 3rd 4th line play.

I hate to say it but the Leafs did quite well in getting Santorelli, Winnik, and Booth all for contracts under 1.5. Any of those guys could have helped to possibly move a B Schenn or whoever else to work on a package for D help or a higher upgrade for first line wing.
Komarov was a high price but another nice addition.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
Isn't it more important that we free up the cap space?
- mayorofangrytown

imagine how many Rinaldos we could have signed with that $8m
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 3:25 PM ET
Isn't it more important that we free up the cap space?
- mayorofangrytown



Absolutely. If we can't win the Cup, maybe we can win the award for best cap situation. "Look, we're 24 M under the cap! We missed the playoffs but who cares, we're 24M under the Cap!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 3:26 PM ET
imagine how many Rinaldos we could have signed with that $8m
- BulliesPhan87

C'mon, you can't find that many Rinaldos.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 30 @ 3:27 PM ET
I was hoping for Hextall to make some changes to this team during off season, even if it was just picking up a proven NHL player who could help with speed and 3rd 4th line play.

I hate to say it but the Leafs did quite well in getting Santorelli, Winnik, and Booth all for contracts under 1.5. Any of those guys could have helped to possibly move a B Schenn or whoever else to work on a package for D help or a higher upgrade for first line wing.
Komarov was a high price but another nice addition.

- 3flyerkids


They added PEB and Umberger and have Laughton to help with speed, penalty killing and 3rd/4th line play. BSchenn will likely get a shot at 1LW, and is cheap.

I'm not sure what kind of player & caphit you expect BSchenn+ to return.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:28 PM ET
imagine how many Rinaldos we could have signed with that $8m
- BulliesPhan87


Not a good fantasy. 6 to 8 players with his corsica corgi Fenwick and fenway stats.i love spell check
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 3:29 PM ET
Absolutely. If we can't win the Cup, maybe we can win the award for best cap situation. "Look, we're 24 M under the cap! We missed the playoffs but who cares, we're 24M under the Cap!
- MJL

Maybe they could give out shirts. That would make a good shirt. THE HEXTALL ERA... Under the Cap in 2015!!!
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 30 @ 3:29 PM ET
Why the (frank) are we sticking toast with a fork? Who does that?
- Giroux_Is_God

i eat everything with a knife and fork

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:32 PM ET
Maybe they could give out shirts. That would make a good shirt. THE HEXTALL ERA... Under the Cap in 2015!!!
- mayorofangrytown

It should be hats. Get it? Under the "cap"?







I'll see myself out.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 3:35 PM ET
Why the (frank) are we sticking toast with a fork? Who does that?
- Giroux_Is_God

Back in the day when the toaster broke you made toast over the gas burner by putting a fork in it like you would a marshmallow at a camp fire.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 3:35 PM ET
It should be hats. Get it? Under the "cap"?







I'll see myself out.

- BulliesPhan87

I thought of that but groaned and went with shirts.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 3:36 PM ET
imagine how many Rinaldos we could have signed with that $8m
- BulliesPhan87


That's like, 9.5 Rinaldos, but I think it's 10 or 11 Rosehills.
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