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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 30 @ 11:30 AM ET
Dion will hopefully learn from what Robidas says, not get better because of him playing with him... His biggest flaws are foot speed and coverage, I'm not sure how any d man in the league is gonna make dion cover his man in front when they are dealing with the guy in the corner. I don't see how said guy is all the sudden gonna make it harder for guys to blow by him wide - whats he gonna do cut across and leave his own side open?... Dions problems will be with him until HE does something about it, not anyone else...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 30 @ 11:30 AM ET
IMO
Dion isnt a number 1 that can carry a number 2.
He's not a number 2 that can help improve a number 1.
That's all Im saying.

He's playing a number 1....should be a number 2. If he didnt have to worry about helping others and just concentrate on his own work...he would be a great number 2.
If he is going to succeed as our number 1....then he needs a quality defensive number 2 to absorb some of his minutes and give him the space to only worry about his space on the ice.
I dont think Nonis has gotten that player yet for him.

Dont get your panties in a knot....
He's a good player....be he has many limits
The HH/saliva joke was just dumb.....try harder.

- Fakepartofme

I agree with the bolded sentences above.

That's about it.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:30 AM ET
Somebody lamented the trading of Gunnar!?
- 1979AD

Certainly not I.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
reliable yes, but he did nothing good, just below avg at everything.

so at least gardiner has either offense, or skating speed, neither of which gunner had.

- big_dion


gunnar is a solid second pairing guy

i dont mind the move for polak tho, basically gave up a left for a right
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
IMO
Dion isnt a number 1 that can carry a number 2.
He's not a number 2 that can help improve a number 1.
That's all Im saying.

He's playing a number 1....should be a number 2. If he didnt have to worry about helping others and just concentrate on his own work...he would be a great number 2.
If he is going to succeed as our number 1....then he needs a quality defensive number 2 to absorb some of his minutes and give him the space to only worry about his space on the ice.
I dont think Nonis has gotten that player yet for him.

Dont get your panties in a knot....
He's a good player....be he has many limits
The HH/saliva joke was just dumb.....try harder.

- Fakepartofme


so you have no idea what you are getting at, great points, thanks for coming out.

maybe the HH comment was off, must be cause you havnt used that kickstand between you legs in a decade, something along those lines.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
Travis Yost ‏@TravisHeHateMe 9m

EK65 starting to look like a bodybuilder.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
keep up with what?
aulie
holzer
kostka
gunnersson

any D man on the team is better than these guys

if you still dont get it, well, im not suprised....

- big_dion

Last year, he played with an NHL dman.....third pairing sure.
This year he will play with Gardiner or another third pairing dman.
Not a huge difference.
Who cares about the year before.

Funny thing, the half season, was one of Dion's better seasons.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
honestly.. we could have bobby orr, coffey, lidstrom, salming, bourque, and robinson on D and so long as they continued playing Carlyle's sit back and let the play come to you system the leafs D would still suck
- Dozzer

Just need a better goalie.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:32 AM ET
gunnar is a solid second pairing guy

i dont mind the move for polak tho, basically gave up a left for a right

- Dozzer


yeah and polak hasnt blown his hip out yet...key word
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:32 AM ET
Last year, he played with an NHL dman.....third pairing sure.
This year he will play with Gardiner or another third pairing dman.
Not a huge difference.
Who cares about the year before.

Funny thing, the half season, was one of Dion's better seasons.

- Fakepartofme


grabovski does wonders
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:33 AM ET
discuss

http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

- senstroll


MIL has a better record than PIT, but PIT has better odds of winning the WS (1.9% vs 3.9%)

What up with that?

PS - The Jays have better odds than both of them
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 30 @ 11:33 AM ET
Last year, he played with an NHL dman.....third pairing sure.
This year he will play with Gardiner or another third pairing dman.
Not a huge difference.
Who cares about the year before.

Funny thing, the half season, was one of Dion's better seasons.

- Fakepartofme

Because the shortened season wasn't as taxing on him, as we can all agree he is asked to play too many minutes.

Funny thing about that.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:33 AM ET
Im important, I just got a call from the Ministry of Finance..very pleasant lady on the phone- just kidding she was a total (frank)ing female dog. and since Im a huge ray of sunshine, id say the who convo went, "well" Im such an bumhole
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
gunnar is a solid second pairing guy

i dont mind the move for polak tho, basically gave up a left for a right

- Dozzer

Fans are going to like Polak's play - he's a wiener, something we can all relate to. Life won't be as easy in front of the net for opposition this year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
so you have no idea what you are getting at, great points, thanks for coming out.

maybe the HH comment was off, must be cause you havnt used that kickstand between you legs in a decade, something along those lines.

- big_dion

Your are now getting into the Ug realm of stupidity.
Falling back to lame insults in an argument, because someone called you out on a foolish comment you made about your lover boy.

moving along.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?

- Atomic Wedgie

Fanning on a clearing attempt.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Because the shortened season wasn't as taxing on him, as we can all agree he is asked to play too many minutes.

Funny thing about that.

- Atomic Wedgie


The best way to help the d is to reduce his minutes, have 3 pairings that can handle close to 20 mins each...
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Why do I expect Robidas to play about as well as Beauchemin did as a Leaf?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
yeah and polak hasnt blown his hip out yet...key word
- big_dion


no, he only has (frank)ed up his knee and broken his ankle

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?

- Atomic Wedgie



what if you just think he was better than what they got back?
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
Im important, I just got a call from the Ministry of Finance..very pleasant lady on the phone- just kidding she was a total (frank)ing female dog. and since Im a huge ray of sunshine, id say the who convo went, "well" Im such an bumhole
- PinkSock


They found your offshore accounts? I hate when that happens.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
Because the shortened season wasn't as taxing on him, as we can all agree he is asked to play too many minutes.

Funny thing about that.

- Atomic Wedgie

Exactly.
A decent dman that plays simply too much in a role that may not be exactly suited to him.

But it is what it is.
Nonis job this summer was to get him proper support...no matter the cost to help him succeed.
I dont feel he did that....unless Gardiner becomes defensively stronger.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
Posted a couple of times yesterday, but for your benefit here goes.

Via HH's twitter:

"Better be a sign and trade or it's the worst day ever to be a leaf fan."


- lumlums

Wait.

You actually follow that clown (frank)?

You're so much better than that, Lumsy boy!










... At least I thought you were.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
Your are now getting into the Ug realm of stupitity.
Falling back to lame insults in an argument, because someone called you out on a foolish comment you made about your lover boy.

moving along.

- Fakepartofme


Not getting involved but... I had to laugh.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
what if you just think he was better than what they got back?
- senstroll


Then you've been watching too many STL games and need to get a life.
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