And that #1 center thingy, plus I think they need a big crusty, mean, offensive winger in that top 6.
- Woderwick

Clarkson fills out one of those 5 things! Being a winger!

he has been great.. will see how he does the rest of the way.

reminds me of when Jaun Guzman cam on the scene he was my fav player at the time... Oh my Guzman RC was worth a bunch the hype was insane... now its worth 15 cents
- senstroll

Guzman was the (frank)ing man...(frank) he was awesome for a bit...thats my dude

Clarkson fills out one of those 5 things! Being a winger!
- markmark

he has been great.. will see how he does the rest of the way.

reminds me of when Jaun Guzman cam on the scene he was my fav player at the time... Oh my Guzman RC was worth a bunch the hype was insane... now its worth 15 cents
- senstroll

I think one of the funniest Jays stories I ever heard was with Luis Leal, he was pulled from a game and proceeded to eat all the post game subs they had waiting for the players.

relax?

im relaxed, saying "i like dion" doesnt mean that you get a free pass to say stupid things.

polak vs gunnerson?

yeah, thats a worthy debate, and guess what, polak is a third pairing D man, just like gunnerson, difference is, leafs wont be playing polak with dion.

either gardiner or robidas, both upgrades over gunnerson or kostka/holzer. which is my point, but i guess that was hard to grasp.
- big_dion

You made the stupid comment that Dion would actually play with "NHL caliber" Dmen now.
Outside of the shorten season, two seasons ago, Dion had played with NHL caliber dmen.....just third/2nd pairing dmen. Robidas is a slight upgrade on Gunnar.
Keep up.

Guzman was the (frank)ing man...(frank) he was awesome for a bit...thats my dude
- PinkSock

I think Sanchez is going to be scary if he stays healthy.

I think one of the funniest Jays stories I ever heard was with Luis Leal, he was pulled from a game and proceeded to eat all the post game subs they had waiting for the players.
- LeafMan

never heard that story

- LeafMan

ooops.... did i let that slip out?

I think Sanchez is going to be scary if he stays healthy.
- Woderwick

hes gonna be the future of the jays, kids unreal (from the 2 innings ive seen of him )

thats what i predict as well.

im just saying that dion will be playing with a legit D man for the first time since coming to Toronto (IMO).
- big_dion

gardiner?

gunnar was way more reliable that Jake "brain lapse" gardiner

You made the stupid comment that Dion would actually play with "NHL caliber" Dmen now.
Outside of the shorten season, two seasons ago, Dion had played with NHL caliber dmen.....just third/2nd pairing dmen. Robidas is a slight upgrade on Gunnar.
Keep up.
- Fakepartofme

keep up with what?
aulie
holzer
kostka
gunnersson

any D man on the team is better than these guys

if you still dont get it, well, im not suprised....

hes gonna be the future of the jays, kids unreal (from the 2 innings ive seen of him )
- PinkSock

That may be a problem.

gardiner?

gunnar was way more reliable that Jake "brain lapse" gardiner
- Dozzer

reliable yes, but he did nothing good, just below avg at everything.

so at least gardiner has either offense, or skating speed, neither of which gunner had.

keep up with what?
aulie
holzer
kostka
gunnersson

any D man on the team is better than these guys

if you still dont get it, well, im not suprised....
- big_dion

You're making me lose my appetite. What an abortion on the back end.

That may be a problem.
- Woderwick

meh I got no doubt hes gonna be great, throwing 99-100mph with sick movement, as long as his arm holds up hes gold

gardiner?

gunnar was way more reliable that Jake "brain lapse" gardiner
- Dozzer

in one game, out another, sit in the presser for a few, sent down, backup, poop coach, horrendous on all acounts...i dont blame him for having a up and down start with the way he was handled...all that being said, he obviously needs to work on his D game.

You're making me lose my appetite. What an abortion on the back end.
- Woderwick

yep, pathetic.

but dont fret, fakepartofme says they are all LEGIT NHL D MEN!

gardiner?

gunnar was way more reliable that Jake "brain lapse" gardiner
- Dozzer

Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?

yeah, dion isnt a number 1 or 2 dman.



what happend since i left, did HH touch you with saliva and give you ebola and you are whimpering away your last week with tears?

winner/gagnon
- big_dion

IMO
Dion isnt a number 1 that can carry a number 2.
He's not a number 2 that can help improve a number 1.
That's all Im saying.

He's playing a number 1....should be a number 2. If he didnt have to worry about helping others and just concentrate on his own work...he would be a great number 2.
If he is going to succeed as our number 1....then he needs a quality defensive number 2 to absorb some of his minutes and give him the space to only worry about his space on the ice.
I dont think Nonis has gotten that player yet for him.

Dont get your panties in a knot....
He's a good player....be he has many limits
The HH/saliva joke was just dumb.....try harder.

Mobile guys with not so mobile guys makes sense.

Flat footed tandems should be avoided this year.
- Woderwick

honestly.. we could have bobby orr, coffey, lidstrom, salming, bourque, and robinson on D and so long as they continued playing Carlyle's sit back and let the play come to you system the leafs D would still suck

yep, pathetic.

but dont fret, fakepartofme says they are all LEGIT NHL D MEN!
- big_dion

They are all LEGIT NHL D MEN, except of course when they are playing in the AHL. Then they are LEGIT AHL D MEN.

Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?
- Atomic Wedgie

Somebody lamented the trading of Gunnar!?

meh I got no doubt hes gonna be great, throwing 99-100mph with sick movement, as long as his arm holds up hes gold
- PinkSock

I think so too.

Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?
- Atomic Wedgie

Tape to tape passes to the opposition forwards waiting just inside our blue-line.

Here's a little game I like to play with Leafs fans who lament the trading of Gunnarson:

What aspect of his play will you miss?
- Atomic Wedgie

his "cover the captains ass when he (frank)s up routinely" aspect