He didnt play with Kostka or Holzer all last year.
So Polak is actual NHL caliber ....but Gunnar isnt?
Robidas is only slightly better than both.

Phaneuf simply cannot play 25 mins a night....he needs to be cut back to 20 -21.
- Fakepartofme

kostka and holzer were before, last year it was mainly gunner.

and sorry, let me rephrase for dion's haters.

dion will suck, he will play worse with gardiner or robidas

polak will get sooooooo much ice time with dion its outrageous!!

robidas is 19 years old and has 0 experience

Holzer and Kostka did not play for the Leafs last year
- MTL1

lol it was a joke, considering dion has played with either AHL players or #5d man in gunner for his career in TO.

but god forbid we took any of that into account.

I agree with this post.

But I think Robidas is considerably better than Gunnarson or Polak.
- Scabeh

time will tell

lol it was a joke, considering dion has played with either AHL players or #5d man in gunner for his career in TO.

but god forbid we took any of that into account.
- big_dion

plus he was playing his opposite side

Ah I thought it was next year because of the original bridge contract. Regardless, its clear he wants big money and wants it now
- markmark

Subban's agent's argument.

Two RFA years - 7 milly each (given comparables like Karlsson)
Six UFA years - ?10 milly each (given comparables like Weber and Suter)

Strong argument for 8 years and about 75 million (about 9.5 / year)

The Habs won't mess with this asset. If it goes to Arb and he signs a 1 year deal it gets really trickier going forward. They'll posture until the 11th hour and get the best deal they can. If you're Subban and you like it in Montreal then he'll take term rather than risk an injury or sub-par year.

I agree with this post.

But I think Robidas is considerably better than Gunnarson or Polak.
- Scabeh

way better.. legit top four.. only concern with him is how is his leg

way better.. legit top four.. only concern with him is how is his leg
- Dozzer

And how he will play at the end of his contract. Didn't he sign for like 3-4 years?

But on the short term, it's an upgrade for sure.

lol it was a joke, considering dion has played with either AHL players or #5d man in gunner for his career in TO.

but god forbid we took any of that into account.
- big_dion

you are correct - but the leafs did not address finding him a good partner this offseason - so 1 more year of carousel type partners

Subban's agent's argument.

Two RFA years - 7 milly each (given comparables like Karlsson)
Six UFA years - ?10 milly each (given comparables like Weber and Suter)

Strong argument for 8 years and about 75 million (about 9.5 / year)

The Habs won't mess with this asset. If it goes to Arb and he signs a 1 year deal it gets really trickier going forward. They'll posture until the 11th hour and get the best deal they can. If you're Subban and you like it in Montreal then he'll take term rather than risk an injury or sub-par year.
- The Law

According to Ken Campbell of The Hockey News, the Canadiens submitted an offer of $5.25 million on a one-year contract, while Subban's camp is asking for $8.5 million.

Subban's agent's argument.

Two RFA years - 7 milly each (given comparables like Karlsson)
Six UFA years - ?10 milly each (given comparables like Weber and Suter)

Strong argument for 8 years and about 75 million (about 9.5 / year)

The Habs won't mess with this asset. If it goes to Arb and he signs a 1 year deal it gets really trickier going forward. They'll posture until the 11th hour and get the best deal they can. If you're Subban and you like it in Montreal then he'll take term rather than risk an injury or sub-par year.
- The Law

been saying 75 over 8 years for awhile now

9.375 million per (average)

According to Ken Campbell of The Hockey News, the Canadiens submitted an offer of $5.25 million on a one-year contract, while Subban's camp is asking for $8.5 million.
- PinkSock

Makes sense ....middle ground (RFA year) is probably 6.5 - 7

kostka and holzer were before, last year it was mainly gunner.

and sorry, let me rephrase for dion's haters.

dion will suck, he will play worse with gardiner or robidas

polak will get sooooooo much ice time with dion its outrageous!!

robidas is 19 years old and has 0 experience
- big_dion

Ya.....you need to relax.
Again, I like Dion....just overpaid and overplayed.
Needs a quality 2nd dman to make him look better...or to help carry him.
Cause its obvious that he cannot carry someone

discuss

http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

you are correct - but the leafs did not address finding him a good partner this offseason - so 1 more year of carousel type partners
- MTL1

They said they had somebody in the org. to play him - it's Gardiner. That tells me they're going to 'deploy' Dion a little different this year. Use Gardiner and Phaneuf as the offensive pairing. Having a partner that can skate/pass the puck out of the zone will help Dion a lot.

Ya.....you need to relax.
Again, I like Dion....just overpaid and overplayed.
Needs a quality 2nd dman to make him look better...or to help carry him.
Cause its obvious that he cannot carry someone
- Fakepartofme

didnt know your number 1 dman was suppose to carry the number 2... or that a number 2 is suppose to carry a number 1



btw im a bout to do a number 2

According to Ken Campbell of The Hockey News, the Canadiens submitted an offer of $5.25 million on a one-year contract, while Subban's camp is asking for $8.5 million.
- PinkSock

5.25....are the Canadiens drunk?

Althought, I get they have to submit a low ball introductory off.

Montreal will sign him for 1Y 8M, and then will trade him to Colorado to get Briere back ... cbidzz

been saying 75 over 8 years for awhile now

9.375 million per (average)
- Dozzer

Make it $76MM over 8 years .

Matches his jersey number

didnt know your number 1 dman was suppose to carry the number 2... or that a number 2 is suppose to carry a number 1

btw im a bout to do a number 2
- PinkSock

Well we really have neither.

discuss

http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx
- senstroll

best not get the wild card...hate to play a 1 and done against the Angels and Jered Weaver

5.25....are the Canadiens drunk?

Althought, I get they have to submit a low ball introductory off.
- Fakepartofme

I think its an insult to PK

Make it $76MM over 8 years .

Matches his jersey number
- .HOHO.

or how about 7.6 per for 8 years
that matches his jersey number as well

Ya.....you need to relax.
Again, I like Dion....just overpaid and overplayed.
Needs a quality 2nd dman to make him look better...or to help carry him.
Cause its obvious that he cannot carry someone
- Fakepartofme

relax?

im relaxed, saying "i like dion" doesnt mean that you get a free pass to say stupid things.

polak vs gunnerson?

yeah, thats a worthy debate, and guess what, polak is a third pairing D man, just like gunnerson, difference is, leafs wont be playing polak with dion.

either gardiner or robidas, both upgrades over gunnerson or kostka/holzer. which is my point, but i guess that was hard to grasp.

Well we really have neither.
- Fakepartofme

sure, whos to say Jake isnt a number 2..wont know unless we give it a crack

you are correct - but the leafs did not address finding him a good partner this offseason - so 1 more year of carousel type partners
- MTL1

gardiner will be his partner.

phaneuf will continue to play his off side.. not focus on scoring (leaving that to gardiner) and be the responsible in his own end d-man

robidas and rielly will be the next pairing

franson ((frank) me trade this tool) and polak will be the third pairing.