IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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I think Nonis should call up Ken Holland
Offer Franson for Kindl +.
We could then play Rielly with Robidas, and Kindl with Polak (Czech-mate!)
thoughts? - GardinerExpress
I wish I could find a way to get my wife to stop watching "house" |
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A few questions:
A. Is this a fair deal for both sides? yes. Gardiner gets a bit more the first couple years, but this deal will seem like a steal after a year or 2.
B. Does Jake's contract improve his trade value? I dont think it changes much
C. Has this deal made Jake a more valuable asset to the organization? yes
D. Does this deal make Jake more attractive to other teams? see B - As_I_See_It
Jake might be the only 4 million D-man we had in a while that is actually worth it.
Guys like Komisarek, Liles, and Gleason were handsomely paid, but ineffective. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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You're correct about PK not signing for 8. If that's the case, ouch. I'm assuming he will. Could Montreal have signed him for 8 years 2 years ago? Sure. But let's remember that this is pre-Norris PK. He's a far better, more complete player now that he was 2 years ago. Signing him 8 years (assuming he wanted that) would have been a huge leap of faith. You see that very very rarely. - DoubleDown
I think there is no sense debating what Montreal did with Subban. It is very easy to criticize with 20/20 hindsight. I think they probably cost themselves in the long run but they really had no choice. It would have been absurd to give him 8 for 8 at the time. |
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I wish I could find a way to get my wife to stop watching "house" - IRON.MAIDEN
get her to play doctor with you instead. problem solved |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I think there is no sense debating what Montreal did with Subban. It is very easy to criticize with 20/20 hindsight. I think they probably cost themselves in the long run but they really had no choice. It would have been absurd to give him 8 for 8 at the time. - Aetherial
I think SUBBAN was looking for like 6.5 which would have been a steal for them. |
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IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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get her to play doctor with you instead. problem solved - GardinerExpress
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Micah is very ban happy.
Especially against Leaf fans.
I got a few days if I recall for posting this:
- lumlums
Micah banned my alt for 3 years and now I cannot access the account. It was going to be active next August I think. |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I wish I could find a way to get my wife to stop watching "house" - IRON.MAIDEN
Break the TV. |
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IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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I think SUBBAN was looking for like 6.5 which would have been a steal for them. - Yeti1181
I stopped reading at the bolded part. |
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IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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Break the TV. - Yeti1181
And listen to Leaf games on the radio? (frank) that noise. |
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I think there is no sense debating what Montreal did with Subban. It is very easy to criticize with 20/20 hindsight. I think they probably cost themselves in the long run but they really had no choice. It would have been absurd to give him 8 for 8 at the time. - Aetherial
I doubt they would have had to pay over 6, but I agree its a risk.
I just think Bergevin low balled PK last time, I remember being shocked at how low he signed for. If they had agreed on a more reasonable salary, say 3.5 x 2, maybe PK would take Karlsson money. Who knows. I still remember him working as a broadcaster as the season started and proceeded to win the Norris. Bergevin has no leverage this time |
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I think SUBBAN was looking for like 6.5 which would have been a steal for them. - Yeti1181
I think he was willing to sign for 5 per over 5-6 years. That would have been brilliant in hindsight |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I stopped reading at the bolded part. - IRON.MAIDEN
Don't act like you can read. |
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Kinggilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: tecumseh, ON Joined: 01.23.2014
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My first thought was "Why would Detroit do this?" We have all seen the very best Franson has to offer. - Jeropotato
Kindl is not very good, and not high on Detroit's list as far as D-Men....in my opnion, The Wings would jump on a deal involving Franson....Holland is taking a lot of slack as of late, and having a hard time signing veteran players (because of Babcock)
FA used to take pay cuts to play in Detroit, now even if they over pay, FA wont sign there. Look to Detroit to target some very aged D-Men....even someone like Jovonovski.
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Micah banned my alt for 3 years and now I cannot access the account. It was going to be active next August I think. - Aetherial
After a Canucks loss, I got banned for posting nothing more than a...
Anyone else ever banned for not saying a single (frank)in' word? |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I think he was willing to sign for 5 per over 5-6 years. That would have been brilliant in hindsight - GardinerExpress
Amazing deal in hindsight. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I doubt they would have had to pay over 6, but I agree its a risk.
I just think Bergevin low balled PK last time, I remember being shocked at how low he signed for. If they had agreed on a more reasonable salary, say 3.5 x 2, maybe PK would take Karlsson money. Who knows. I still remember him working as a broadcaster as the season started and proceeded to win the Norris. Bergevin has no leverage this time - GardinerExpress
PK is gonna get paid. I don't believe that his previous contract is going to make him ask for more now.
If the Leafs were in the same situation we would be applauding the bridge contract. It just isn't realistic to criticize the Habs now.
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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After a Canucks loss, I got banned for posting nothing more than a...
Anyone else ever banned for not saying a single (frank)in' word? - As_I_See_It
I can see why you got that ha ha. |
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IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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Don't act like you can read. - Yeti1181
I'm sure I'm not missing much in your posts anyway...
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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After a Canucks loss, I got banned for posting nothing more than a...
Anyone else ever banned for not saying a single (frank)in' word? - As_I_See_It
Mine was for telling one of the posters that I won't be surprised when he ends up being wrong and mysteriously disappears when it is time to man up, or something like that. No swearing, no name calling... just a simple and true fact.
The*reason* according to Micah was that I had multiple accounts and the account username was offensive to him.
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PK is gonna get paid. I don't believe that his previous contract is going to make him ask for more now.
If the Leafs were in the same situation we would be applauding the bridge contract. It just isn't realistic to criticize the Habs now. - Aetherial
its not just the contract, it was the way he was handled. Remember him on TSN while the season started? man gonna get paid this time! |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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A few questions:
A. Is this a fair deal for both sides?
B. Does Jake's contract improve his trade value?
C. Has this deal made Jake a more valuable asset to the organization?
D. Does this deal make Jake more attractive to other teams? - As_I_See_It
Similar contract to Voynov, Faulk and Fowler. Only time will tell if he's worth it. |
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I can see why you got that ha ha. - Yeti1181
C'mon MAAAAAAN, seriously?
You have to admit that it's a little douchey.
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IRON.MAIDEN
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Location: Budweiser Gardens, ON Joined: 01.14.2012
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That's kind of how I feel when youre not here. - Yeti1181
You're spelling an end to our friendship bud. |
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