Wothout looking at the numbers, I'm pretty sure Ovechkin scored just about half his goals on the power play too.

Role player!
- Giroux_Is_God

47%

It's the same tunnel vision with you. Why was he a poor preformer this season? Simply because he plays one position and effective in one area of the ice? He's been this player his entire career. He's capable of bouncing back and he was hurt for most of the season.

I think the situation is much more complicated then fans choose to believe. Either he plays well and ups his value for a trade, if this is possible because his age, length of the deal and cap hit or things get worse because he knows the team doesn't want him anymore, he plays poorly again, fans turns on him and he sees limited time. If Lecavalier plays bad, this summer will be nothing compared to the next four years and this is on the Flyers for allowing this to get out. It's on the Flyers for bringing him here to begin with.

He's never been in this situation before.
- SuperSchennBros

Who cares if he's been in this situation before?

He's getting paid a ton of cash, by 2 NHL teams. Sure he's probably unhappy, but it is what it is. There's things about everyone's job they hate & he has to learn to deal with it. Not many teams seemed that interested in his services, so he might be stuck here.

At that point he's got to make the best of it. If he's playing poorly or being a distraction that's partly on him. It's called maturity and professionalism. You make the best of a bad situation.

47%
- Streit2ThePoint

Ergo, he is 47% role player

In 9 career NHL games, he has 5 points. 7 of those games came against a very strong defensive team.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yep, he played well for the most part in those 9 games. He'll have to keep that up.

Who cares if he's been in this situation before?

He's getting paid a ton of cash, by 2 NHL teams. Sure he's probably unhappy, but it is what it is. There's things about everyone's job they hate & he has to learn to deal with it. Not many teams seemed that interested in his services, so he might be stuck here.

At that point he's got to make the best of it. If he's playing poorly or being a distraction that's partly on him. It's called maturity and professionalism. You make the best of a bad situation.
- Jsaquella

Lecavalier has been nothing but professional as a Flyer in my opinion.

Yep, he played well for the most part in those 9 games. He'll have to keep that up.
- MJL

Kid has a good NHL game, in my opinion. I'm anxious to see what he brings this year.

thanks hexy ??
- -davies-

Kid has a good NHL game, in my opinion. I'm anxious to see what he brings this year.
- Giroux_Is_God

In 9 games he's had one bad moment. That's a small sample, but it's enough for me to say give the kid a shot

Kid has a good NHL game, in my opinion. I'm anxious to see what he brings this year.
- Giroux_Is_God

I don't know that he has a good NHL game. I think he has NHL hands and NHL skill level. The question is can he compete in other ways needed to use that skill level to produce enough at the NHL level to stay there. Because there isn't much else to his game. Unless he remakes himself as a player. He deserves a legitimate chance to show that he can play in the NHL. Time will tell.

Hate




Just reminding you its still there, even in the dog days of summer.
- nbartley9

the feeling is mutual.

- Crimsoninja

Think about how much worse it will be in 2-3 years when these guys actually start contributing

Kid has a good NHL game, in my opinion. I'm anxious to see what he brings this year.
- Giroux_Is_God

I liked what I saw from him. His offensive game definitely looks NHL level.

Top center
Top Winger
Shut down C
Goalie
Franchise D/legit #1 pair D

They are missing a very big key piece.

Also the best teams go 12-13 forwards deep... guys they can use in a playoff series
flyers still a bit short on depth IMO.

I do like the direction they are going. I hope one of Morin/Ghost/Hagg/Sanheim realizes their potential, but still not sure any of them become the top dog they need on the D. We will see.
- Marc D

don't worry. rosemont can step in as that 13th guy when called upon in those important playoff games.

quote Ek:
"Don't be shocked if Ville Leino ends up back with Philadelphia on a one-year contract. I am hearing there is mutual interest in seeing if Ville can revive his career where he had his best success."

I'd be shocked
- Marc D

i wouldn't.

In 9 career NHL games, he has 5 points. 7 of those games came against a very strong defensive team.
- PhillySportsGuy

I see him as a Andrew Shaw/Brendan Gallagher kind of guy... point totals won't knock your socks off, but he'll really help keep the puck in your team's hands and that alone has immense value.

I see him as a Andrew Shaw/Brendan Gallagher kind of guy... point totals won't knock your socks off, but he'll really help keep the puck in your team's hands and that alone has immense value.
- Tomahawk

I agree. I think Gallagher may be a decent skater though. Could be wrong. Habs fans really do love him though.

I see him as a Andrew Shaw/Brendan Gallagher kind of guy... point totals won't knock your socks off, but he'll really help keep the puck in your team's hands and that alone has immense value.
- Tomahawk

He would have to be a strong checker, strong on the forecheck, and a solid defender in order to do that. It remains to be seen if he has that element to his game over the long haul.

In 9 games he's had one bad moment. That's a small sample, but it's enough for me to say give the kid a shot
- Jsaquella

And to be honest.. that bad moment was him going a little hard, and probably a direct result of trying to do too much.

And to be honest.. that bad moment was him going a little hard, and probably a direct result of trying to do too much.
- jak521

I thought it was just really some bad luck, and didn't really see it as an undisciplined or careless play.

He would have to be a strong checker, strong on the forecheck, and a solid defender in order to do that. It remains to be seen if he has that element to his game over the long haul.
- MJL

I know the sample size was small, but in those 9 games he has played, I dont think he looked bad with out the puck. Actually I was a bit surprised (pleasantly) with how he played away from the puck.

He would have to be a strong checker, strong on the forecheck, and a solid defender in order to do that. It remains to be seen if he has that element to his game over the long haul.
- MJL

Kings used Justin Williams on the 3rd-line for much of the PO's... his lack of strength, speed and average defensive game didn't hurt them there... at all.

There's a whole world in between guys who score, and guys who check. Akeson doesn't have to do either, or... he can just be himself and still be valuable.

And to be honest.. that bad moment was him going a little hard, and probably a direct result of trying to do too much.
- jak521

It would have been insignificant if they killed it off. He came off as the culprit as if allowing 2 goals on a 4 minute PK is acceptable in the playoffs.

Bill compared 2010-11 to current prospects... I looked back at the rosters during that time, and the current line up (vs previous counter-part, ie. the 'replacements'). I'm leaning towards the 2010-11 team, but 2013-14 team has better future (esp. as Bill noted the prospects are much better).;

2010-11 2013-14 (2014-15)
28 Claude Giroux 82 25 51 76 +20 47 Claude Giroux 82 28 58 86 7 46
48 Danny Briere 77 34 34 68 +20 87 Jakub Voracek 82 23 39 62 11 22
17 Jeff Carter 80 36 30 66 +27 39 Wayne Simmonds 82 29 31 60 -4 106
18 Mike Richards 81 23 43 66 +11 62 Brayden Schenn 82 20 21 41 0 54
22 Ville Leino 81 19 34 53 +14 22 Maxime Talbot‡ 11 1 1 2 1 2
19 Scott Hartnell 82 24 25 49 +14 142 Scott Hartnell 78 20 32 52 11 103
21 J. van Riemsdyk 75 21 19 40 +15 35 Sean Couturier 82 13 26 39 1 45
15 Andreas Nodl 67 11 11 22 +14 16 Michael Raffl 68 9 13 22 2 28
93 Nikolay Zherdev 56 16 6 22 +5 22 Steve Downie† 51 3 14 17 -3 70
36 Darroll Powe 81 7 10 17 -6 41 Matt Read 75 22 18 40 -4 16
11 Blair Betts 75 5 7 12 -3 8 Adam Hall 80 4 5 9 -15 23
10 Kris Versteeg† 27 7 4 11 +4 24 Vincent Lecavalier 69 20 17 37 -16 44
13 Daniel Carcillo 57 4 2 6 -14 127 Zac Rinaldo 67 2 2 4 -13 153
45 Jody Shelley 58 2 2 4 0 127 Jay Rosehill 34 2 0 2 -8 90
47 Eric Wellwood 3 0 1 1 +1 2 Jason Akeson 1 0 1 1 1 0

44 Kimmo Timonen 82 6 31 37 +11 36 Kimmo Timonen 77 6 29 35 5 32
41 Andrej Meszaros 81 8 24 32 +30 42 Andrej Meszaros‡ 38 5 12 17 1 34
20 Chris Pronger 50 4 21 25 +7 44 Mark Streit 82 10 34 44 3 44
6 Sean O'Donnell 81 1 17 18 +8 87 Nicklas Grossmann 78 1 13 14 -6 55
5 Braydon Coburn 82 2 14 16 +15 53 Braydon Coburn 82 5 12 17 -6 63
3 Oskars Bartulis 13 0 0 0 -4 4 Luke Schenn 79 4 8 12 0 58
27 Erik Gustafsson 3 0 0 0 -3 4 Erik Gustafsson 31 2 8 10 7 6
8 Matt Walker 4 0 0 0 0 4 Hal Gill 6 0 0 0 0 2
25 Matt Carle 82 1 39 40 +30 23 Andrew MacDonald† 19 0 4 4 -3 16

35 Sergei Bobrovsky (G) 54 0 2 2 N/A 2 Steve Mason (G) 61 0 1 1 N/A 10
33 Brian Boucher (G) 34 0 0 0 N/A 0 Ray Emery (G) 28 0 0 0 N/A 31
49 Michael Leighton (G) 1 0 0 0 N/A 0 Calvin Heeter (G) 1 0 0 0 N/A 0

I thought it was just really some bad luck, and didn't really see it as an undisciplined or careless play.
- MJL

He was trying to throw the hit, but didnt have his body ready for when (Haglund?) the Ranger player turned. Lost his balance a bit and his stick came up. Tough play. Sucks that they scored on it, because he really only made that one mistake, and it ended up being costly.

It would have been insignificant if they killed it off. He came off as the culprit as if allowing 2 goals on a 4 minute PK is acceptable in the playoffs.
- PhillySportsGuy

But at the time it was a crushing blow.