Most of those guys have been in the league for how many years now?

Let me put it easier for you. We have had very little turnover in our foward group for years.
And keeping players like pevs and Kelly with the money we gave them for the third line is a dumb move.
Krug was forced into the lineup two yrs ago in the playoffs after an injury.
Not by choice.
Smith was moved up, and thankfully so, due to an injury.

And Hamilton was arguable there best d man after Chara last year. IMO.

Point I'm trying to make is that we have no idea how good koko and spooner and Florek may be in the nhl, but we are all assuming they will just jump right in an fit nicely on this team.

And why is that? Because we had to play Thorton, Campbell, Kelly, etc.

Would have liked to see spooner and koko center the fourth line, maybe with Florek on a wing for a half dozen games last yr.

What would we have had to loss, the presidents trophy? Who cares.
- JIwasinskiJr

The baby B's play the exact same system as the big boys, that helps. But really, it speaks to their depth. One Stanley Cup on, One loss
,.. one Presidents Trophy, ,(nice but who cares in big picture) so we're worried about how our 4th line is gonna shape up, 18 other teams in the league would love to that that as one of the big problems in the off season.

Most of those guys have been in the league for how many years now?

Let me put it easier for you. We have had very little turnover in our foward group for years.
And keeping players like pevs and Kelly with the money we gave them for the third line is a dumb move.
Krug was forced into the lineup two yrs ago in the playoffs after an injury.
Not by choice.
Smith was moved up, and thankfully so, due to an injury.

And Hamilton was arguable there best d man after Chara last year. IMO.

Point I'm trying to make is that we have no idea how good koko and spooner and Florek may be in the nhl, but we are all assuming they will just jump right in an fit nicely on this team.

And why is that? Because we had to play Thorton, Campbell, Kelly, etc.

Would have liked to see spooner and koko center the fourth line, maybe with Florek on a wing for a half dozen games last yr.

What would we have had to loss, the presidents trophy? Who cares.
- JIwasinskiJr

Point is they were rookies at one point in time with Julien and PC running the ship and they had zero problem giving them an opportunity. Instead of Koko and Spooner and Florek we had Smith and Soderberg and Miller and Krug and Bartkowski and Hamilton playing key roles. Not sure what you'd prefer aside from having an entire roster full of 1st or 2nd year players which you're right wouldn't get you a presidents trophy. Probably wouldn't get you to the playoffs either.

They moved our right wing third base?

Theres a plan in place... no one gets promoted ahead of Caron
- 77emac77

Who was the last RW we developed or young one we traded for before smith, that looked to have potential? Neely.....kidding.

Sounds about right!
Again.....why not play someone else?

Campbell, Thorton, Kelly, Caron, etc. Sit those old or useless turds down 20 games and plop spooner, Florek, koko, Fraser, robins, lindblad, etc. In the line up.

Clearly I am retarded because I do not understand why or what is so difficult to grasp about that point that we have not had a developed top six prospect since brad Marchand FIVE YEARS AGO!

And you are correct, he has let them play in the past, HENCE, why bergy, Lucic,Krejic, Marchand are all core players that WE DRAFTED AND DEVELOPED again, FIVE YEARS AGO!

Where did those players start, what lines did they start playing on?

The third and fourth lines.

But instead of giving our kids a chance AS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST we play Thorton, Kelly, pevs, Campbell, etc!

And you are also correct, when he is FORCED to play the young guys......

Ex., Seguin when Bergy got concussed and missed two games in the playoffs and he was in no way going to be a be pulled after the games against the lightning.

Krug two playoffs ago after an injury and krug single handed made the PP a weapon, can't pull krug out of the line up then.

Bartkowski and miller after seindenberg and Mcquaid got hurt last year.

And what did playing our young d man show us.......?

That if we in deed lets our prospects play, as we have done in the past, maybe we have a few stars in our prospect pool!!!!

But, it's been five years since we have had a relevant top six player from our prospect pool.

And saying that if we play our young guys it would have cost us the presidents trophy seems kinda ironic........half our defense was young guys that were FORCED TO PLAY DUE TO INJURY!!!

BUT...it is different for the forward crop?
Sitting Campbell, Thorton, Kelly, for a handful of games wasn't going to sink the ship last year, IMO!

So....what is our problem this off season?
We have NO IDEA who is going to fill TWO spots in our roster.
Spooner, koko, can they play wing?
Need cap space, could we trade Campbell and slot one of the young guys on the fourth?
Floreck or robins, can they take Thortons spot?

Clearly I am retarded because I do not understand why or what is so difficult to grasp about that point that we have not had a developed top six prospect since brad Marchand FIVE YEARS AGO!

And you are correct, he has let them play in the past, HENCE, why bergy, Lucic,Krejic, Marchand are all core players that WE DRAFTED AND DEVELOPED again, FIVE YEARS AGO!

Where did those players start, what lines did they start playing on?

The third and fourth lines.

But instead of giving our kids a chance AS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST we play Thorton, Kelly, pevs, Campbell, etc!

And you are also correct, when he is FORCED to play the young guys......

Ex., Seguin when Bergy got concussed and missed two games in the playoffs and he was in no way going to be a be pulled after the games against the lightning.

Krug two playoffs ago after an injury and krug single handed made the PP a weapon, can't pull krug out of the line up then.

Bartkowski and miller after seindenberg and Mcquaid got hurt last year.

And what did playing our young d man show us.......?

That if we in deed lets our prospects play, as we have done in the past, maybe we have a few stars in our prospect pool!!!!

But, it's been five years since we have had a relevant top six player from our prospect pool.

And saying that if we play our young guys it would have cost us the presidents trophy seems kinda ironic........half our defense was young guys that were FORCED TO PLAY DUE TO INJURY!!!

BUT...it is different for the forward crop?
Sitting Campbell, Thorton, Kelly, for a handful of games wasn't going to sink the ship last year, IMO!

So....what is our problem this off season?
We have NO IDEA who is going to fill TWO spots in our roster.
Spooner, koko, can they play wing?
Need cap space, could we trade Campbell and slot one of the young guys on the fourth?
Floreck or robins, can they take Thortons spot?

- JIwasinskiJr

And Smith, Soderberg, Krug, and Hamilton, Miller are all rookies who are currently getting their chance to develop. Just because they aren't the kids you want to see play doesn't mean it isn't happening. Florek, Spooner, Fraser all had extended opportunities last season and will probably be called on this season. So much like Smith last year the ONE available forward spot of concern will likely be taken by a young player and Julien will give him the opportunity. Once again dispelling the myth that the club has some sort of bias against young players.

And Smith, Soderberg, Krug, and Hamilton, Miller are all rookies who are currently getting their chance to develop. Just because they aren't the kids you want to see play doesn't mean it isn't happening. Florek, Spooner, Fraser all had extended opportunities last season and will probably be called on this season. So much like Smith last year the ONE available forward spot of concern will likely be taken by a young player and Julien will give him the opportunity. Once again dispelling the myth that the club has some sort of bias against young players.
- Double_A

I don't consider solderberg a rookie with the yrs played in the Swiss league. He is as old as Krejic and Bergy. 28.

Miller and krug are now on the team and considered starters, BUT again, it's due to injury that we got to see them.
That that's what scares me, if Mcquaid didn't get hurt would we even have seen krug?

That's my question......we saw him in the playoffs two yrs ago, he has changed the PP.....BUT would Julien have given him a chance if Mcquaid didn't get hurt?

Miller is a champ, but, would he have scratched boychuck or Mcquaid, maybe Chara and Seindenberg for rest, and played miller?
So would we know we have a potential boychuck/Seindenberg replacement if not for two injuries last yr?

Smith was a great pick up and earned his spot so I concede that, but we didn't draft him.

Smith making 2.5, Krug making 2.75
Kelly, bartkowski traded
Hayes signed @ 900k

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FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($2.500m)
Ryan Spooner ($0.760m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Kevin Hayes ($0.900m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Matt Fraser ($0.688m)
Jordan Caron ($0.600m) /
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Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($2.750m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
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What do you guys think of P.K. Subban and his contract?

I hope he rakes them over the coals BUT I don't think he is worth 7-8 mil a yr IMO.

At least not like the d men that I would prefer to have on the bruins anyways. He is in the Karlsson, Letang camp and seem to be more in line with a fourth foward over a great shut down two way d man.

Who was the last RW we developed or young one we traded for before smith, that looked to have potential? Neely.....kidding.

Sounds about right!
Again.....why not play someone else?

Campbell, Thorton, Kelly, Caron, etc. Sit those old or useless turds down 20 games and plop spooner, Florek, koko, Fraser, robins, lindblad, etc. In the line up.
- JIwasinskiJr

That was looch, I get your point, but look at the results.

except last year

And next year, based on what they've done.. we're gonna see some of these kids,

and we're all holding our breath waiting for a Kelly/cambell trade.

That was looch, I get your point, but look at the results.

except last year
- 77emac77

Looch is great. But he is a LW .

We haven't had a RW top six drafted and in our top six in awhile.
Horton from Florida. Recchi from Tampa. Iggy FA.

Have trouble in that position. Maybe Pastrnak will be the guy.

holy F##k, Jersey just signed greene for 5 mil a year.. 8 goals.. +3..

Johnny rocket is gonna make a fortune as a free agent

Looch is great. But he is a LW .

We haven't had a RW top six drafted and in our top six in awhile.
Horton from Florida. Recchi from Tampa. Iggy FA.

Have trouble in that position. Maybe Pastrnak will be the guy.
- JIwasinskiJr

Bruins have drafted very low except for picks they got in trade. Neely was a trade too, since he's your comparison, but he doesn't count?

ty must have a pants tentelone with as active as his blog has been in the off season.

Bruins have drafted very low except for picks they got in trade. Neely was a trade too, since he's your comparison, but he doesn't count?
- 77emac77

The Neely point was a extreme sarcastic joke.

Bruins have drafted very low except for picks they got in trade. Neely was a trade too, since he's your comparison, but he doesn't count?
- 77emac77

Krejic 63 pick
Lucic 50 pick
Marchand 71 pick
Bergy 45 pick

Cough cough....maybe you hit on something. Maybe the b s haven't been doing so good on drafting foward since chia took over.

But we drafted our top forwards later. None are first rounders.

Which is why we seem built more like the wings of lore than the other teams in the league, as our team isn't built by sucking and getting a bunch of top ten or even three picks like the black hawks and penguins.

Who was the last RW we developed or young one we traded for before smith, that looked to have potential? Neely.....kidding.

Sounds about right!
Again.....why not play someone else?

Campbell, Thorton, Kelly, Caron, etc. Sit those old or useless turds down 20 games and plop spooner, Florek, koko, Fraser, robins, lindblad, etc. In the line up.
- JIwasinskiJr

and I truly do not understand the hate for caron. played a perfect 4th line game. hes not gunna get points if hes not being given the minutes. cant ask for a better energy player at that kind of money

and I truly do not understand the hate for caron. played a perfect 4th line game. hes not gunna get points if hes not being given the minutes. cant ask for a better energy player at that kind of money
- TylerSeguin19

Personally I agree. He is better than Thorton and has more up side than campbell.

We needed to get younger on the third and fourth lines and on top of that he is over half the money.

Win win on the fourth. People think every new player needs to be a potential top liner, and he was drafted to be one, but at the price he is better than going out and over paying another old vet that had hit his peak.

and I truly do not understand the hate for caron. played a perfect 4th line game. hes not gunna get points if hes not being given the minutes. cant ask for a better energy player at that kind of money
- TylerSeguin19

Its not hate, its just disappointment. Much more was expected of him. And don't knock thorton, he played his role well and wasn't a liability on the ice.

Password is changed and It will only be me on here NOW, not a bunch of goofs sounding like idiots at work.
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAS A MAN CRUSH ON DOUBLE A tho, wow

Personally I agree. He is better than Thorton and has more up side than campbell.

We needed to get younger on the third and fourth lines and on top of that he is over half the money.

Win win on the fourth. People think every new player needs to be a potential top liner, and he was drafted to be one, but at the price he is better than going out and over paying another old vet that had hit his peak.
- JIwasinskiJr

Wat? The kid is a(frank)ing disaster. At least Campbell is a PK guy. WHAT DOES CARON DO BESIDES TAKE UP SPACE?! He sucks, disappointment of Hamill and Suave levels.

and I truly do not understand the hate for caron. played a perfect 4th line game. hes not gunna get points if hes not being given the minutes. cant ask for a better energy player at that kind of money
- TylerSeguin19

yes actually I can and will ask for a better energy player. Bust city. Kid sucks. He's Chris Borque.

Marchand 5yrs. Bergy 10yrs. Smith 1.5yrs
Lucic 7yrs. Krejic 7yrs. Horton 6yrs.(before he arrived here) Iggy 16yrs

Those four Marchand, Bergy, Lucic, and Krejic were given a chance on fourth and third lines and are now considered our core.

My only problem is who s the next Marchand? Who is the next Krejic?

Why has it taken soooo long, five years, since we have had a young impact player?

Either we are not giving guys a chance OR we are not drafting and developing top six talent very well. (Seguin and Hamilton were impossible to miss on draft picks in the top ten, everyone of the other 29 teams would have taken those players at those spots.)

That five years is my sticking point. That's all I am trying to say.

And why is it that RW is like our SS for the Sox?
- JIwasinskiJr

you're making my head hurt

Password is changed and It will only be me on here NOW, not a bunch of goofs sounding like idiots at work.
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAS A MAN CRUSH ON DOUBLE A tho, wow
- cscbloggin

oh ok.

you're making my head hurt
- Fountain-San

They won a cup, challenged for another, and were the best team in league last season. Were was the need exactly?