We can argue all night, with a min to go down by a goal I'm going with Crosby over Lindross.

I don't recall Eric Lindros winning the Stanley Cup.....which is something generational players do. Bottom line Lindros was an exceptional hockey player and played a style not many could, but when he took the flyers to the cup finals he was non existent. "Generational players" carry teams on their backs.
- kindlyrick

I never said Crosby didnt deserve the "generational" tag.. Just that Lindros deserves it just as much.
You don't recall him winning the cup, well i recall his career being cut very short. Gretzky was non-existent in the 93 finals.. it happens.

In the clutch and grab 90's.. Lindros was unstoppable. He was heads and shoulders better then everyone. He would OWN the game as it is being played right now.

If i had to choose between the two... Eric the great

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I never said Crosby didnt deserve the "generational" tag.. Just that Lindros deserves it just as much.
You don't recall him winning the cup, well i recall his career being cut very short. Gretzky was non-existent in the 93 finals.. it happens.

In the clutch and grab 90's.. Lindros was unstoppable. He was heads and shoulders better then everyone. He would OWN the game as it is being played right now.

If i had to choose between the two... Eric the great

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- XxNYIxX

Lindros' career was cut short, yes, but he NEVER won the Stanley cup.
Generational players carry their team to victory. Lindros did not get to that level.

When Lindros took the flyers to the finals, Nicky lidstrom and I believe Larry Murphy shut them down. I can look it up but I don't even think Lindoros scored a goal.

Did you really just reference #99 getting shut down in the 93 playoffs???

I never said Crosby didnt deserve the "generational" tag.. Just that Lindros deserves it just as much.
You don't recall him winning the cup, well i recall his career being cut very short. Gretzky was non-existent in the 93 finals.. it happens.

In the clutch and grab 90's.. Lindros was unstoppable. He was heads and shoulders better then everyone. He would OWN the game as it is being played right now.

If i had to choose between the two... Eric the great

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- XxNYIxX

Eric Lindros was a special player because he was elite talent with an enormous frame, who could fight anyone. But skill wise, I liken him to another elite player who never won the cup in Mats Sundin. Both were special players, but neither would I choose over Crosby.

Lindros' career was cut short, yes, but he NEVER won the Stanley cup.
Generational players carry their team to victory. Lindros did not get to that level.

When Lindros took the flyers to the finals, Nicky lidstrom and I believe Larry Murphy shut them down. I can look it up but I don't even think Lindoros scored a goal.

Did you really just reference #99 getting shut down in the 93 playoffs???
- kindlyrick

Yes, he was shut down in his first and last cup appearance... now i Dont know about anyone else.. but he is THE generational player... it happens to the best of them, he was not able to put the team on his shoulders and win either of those cups... it doesn't make him any less

Also.. i never saw the stipulation that a generational player has to have won a cup.

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Yes, he was shut down in his first and last cup appearance... now i Dont know about anyone else.. but he is THE generational player... it happens to the best of them, he was not able to put the team on his shoulders and win either of those cups... it doesn't make him any less

Also.. i never saw the stipulation that a generational player has to have won a cup.

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- XxNYIxX

I guess your definition of generational player is different than mine. I think you might be confusing player of the decade with generational player. If we're picking centers from the 90s, im taking Stevie Yzerman over Lindros. To me you can't be a once in a lifetime type player if you've never won "the big game".

How is it even considered that Crosby is not a generational talent? He's currently the best player in the world in this sport. He has been since he entered the league, and I don't see anyone surpassing his skill level anytime soon. He has hands down made the biggest impact on today's nhl.

8 years 9 million AAV for Subban. Wow

How is it even considered that Crosby is not a generational talent? He's currently the best player in the world in this sport. He has been since he entered the league, and I don't see anyone surpassing his skill level anytime soon. He has hands down made the biggest impact on today's nhl.
- Dedshark

Agreed 100%. I think sometimes on here people are more into debating and who they are debating with.....or plain and simple they just don't have a clue. These are all my opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

8 years 9 million AAV for Subban. Wow
- NYI44

Crazy cash.....
I like P.K. and stuff but I think its slight overpayment. Montreal's GM did a lousy job on trying to get him signed prior, grant it, I know that players salaries are going up every year and so is the cap but when crappy players make an avg of $5-6M, we all know another lockout will come in the next several years.

I know this has been passed but Crosby's avg salary contract should have set a precedent on the ceiling of what a player should make, just my opinion...

8 years 9 million AAV for Subban. Wow
- NYI44

I'm sure some will cry bloody murder of that conny. But I guessed 6-8 years at 9 shmill per. PK Subban is great. I'm really surprise no team sent him an offer sheet. Then again other than maybe two teams noone really offer sheets players. I guess it's considered dirty.....but I for one have no problem with it.

I'd love to know the actual rule on this. Being that the isles don't have a first rounder in 2015 could they have sent an offer sheet and differed those first round picks to 2016, 2017, and 2018?

Crazy cash.....
I like P.K. and stuff but I think its slight overpayment. Montreal's GM did a lousy job on trying to get him signed prior, grant it, I know that players salaries are going up every year and so is the cap but when crappy players make an avg of $5-6M, we all know another lockout will come in the next several years.

I know this has been passed but Crosby's avg salary contract should have set a precedent on the ceiling of what a player should make, just my opinion...
- Ur Not Me

We've had this discussion on here and I think the bottom line is.....someone's value is what someone is willing to pay.

Agreed 100%. I think sometimes on here people are more into debating and who they are debating with.....or pain and simple they just don't have a clue. These are all my opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
- kindlyrick

Like you have mentioned, people have there opinions on who's a generational talent but 1 name I believe is that I don't think I saw on your list is Jagr. You and others could disagree but since he entered the league ( not suggesting the backend of his career), he has dominated and maybe was the best player in the sport for some time?

We've had this discussion on here and I think the bottom line is.....someone's value is what someone is willing to pay.
- kindlyrick

I know that, I'm just pointing out that maybe the NHL should have some type of ceiling on contracts.

I know that, I'm just pointing out that maybe the NHL should have some type of ceiling on contracts.
- Ur Not Me

Nope, that's the salary cap. If a GM thinks it's worth it to spend that much on a single player then have at it. I would like to see a ceiling on the number of years allowed. Personally I'd like it to be three years, but five years may be more realistic.

Nope, that's the salary cap. If a GM thinks it's worth it to spend that much on a single player then have at it. I would like to see a ceiling on the number of years allowed. Personally I'd like it to be three years, but five years may be more realistic.
- JimmyP

Isn't there a 7-year max...eight if it's with the current team?

Isn't there a 7-year max...eight if it's with the current team?
- UIF

Believe youre right. Happy pk got signed so the "generational talent" debate could come to an end.

Agreed 100%. I think sometimes on here people are more into debating and who they are debating with.....or plain and simple they just don't have a clue. These are all my opinions and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
- kindlyrick

Id like to debate that

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Isn't there a 7-year max...eight if it's with the current team?
- UIF

Ok, then I'd like to see the ceiling lowered.

7-8 years is too much.

Id like to debate that

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- XxNYIxX

No you wouldn't!

Nope, that's the salary cap. If a GM thinks it's worth it to spend that much on a single player then have at it. I would like to see a ceiling on the number of years allowed. Personally I'd like it to be three years, but five years may be more realistic.
- JimmyP

I think 8 years is perfect. In 5 years most teams can rebuild and by the time they're ready to compete their stars cant up and leave to the highest bidder.

No you wouldn't!
- JimmyP

I want to debate why you think I shouldn't debate that other thing.

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Nope, that's the salary cap. If a GM thinks it's worth it to spend that much on a single player then have at it. I would like to see a ceiling on the number of years allowed. Personally I'd like it to be three years, but five years may be more realistic.
- JimmyP

I wasn't talking about length in contract bc that was set-up by the league, I meant by salary ceiling. In all honesty, as much as Toews & Kane are great players but they both are not worth $12M a year and are not better than Crosby was my point.

I wasn't talking about length in contract bc that was set-up by the league, I meant by salary ceiling. In all honesty, as much as Toews & Kane are great players but they both are not worth $12M a year and are not better than Crosby was my point.
- Ur Not Me

I understood your point. The salary cap was put into place to address that. Hypothetically, if a GM gives half of his available salary to one or two players it's unlikely his team will succeed. If said GM is only interested in the short term he may be willing to do that for a short term contract. Or if he's got an incredible scout team that is constantly bringing in great rookies he may be willing to take a chance. In any case, my point was there is a system in place meant to limit stupid contracts. Whether it is effective or not is a different question.

I think 8 years is perfect. In 5 years most teams can rebuild and by the time they're ready to compete their stars cant up and leave to the highest bidder.
- kindlyrick

To me that sounds like an argument for lowering the salary cap.

To me that sounds like an argument for lowering the salary cap.
- JimmyP

Can't lower cap...its tied into league revenue..if the league is making money, it will continue to rise