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coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:28 PM ET
The deal brings in a stay at home physical D-man, frees up roughly $5 million is cap relief, which would give Nonis a lot of options moving forward with teams that are opening the season over the cap limit. Also, they've been talking to a couple Goalies (brodeur, Thomas) at $1 million 1 year deals....take it for what it is....but a 2nd rounder coming from the jets in a very good draft year, and freeing up $4 million after signing a back-up....not too shabby
- Kinggilmour



I actually believe u on this. Who would make this up?
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:28 PM ET
Clitsome is good for half a season. He's broken all the time.
- Woderwick

Supposedly the surgery was to fix all the brokenness
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:29 PM ET
That is one poopty deal. Are you sure your sources are that connected? Are you making this up? I bet you are making this up from your mother's basement.

Troll.

- bloatedmosquito

This is the guy that called the Winnik signing four days ago and nailed the amount as well. Although he might just be getting us back cause quite a few people were douche's.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:30 PM ET
This is the guy that called the Winnik signing four days ago and nailed the amount as well. Although he might just be getting us back cause quite a few people were douche's.
- Yeti1181



You being one if them right now?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:30 PM ET
The deal brings in a stay at home physical D-man, frees up roughly $5 million is cap relief, which would give Nonis a lot of options moving forward with teams that are opening the season over the cap limit. Also, they've been talking to a couple Goalies (brodeur, Thomas) at $1 million 1 year deals....take it for what it is....but a 2nd rounder coming from the jets in a very good draft year, and freeing up $4 million after signing a back-up....not too shabby
- Kinggilmour

I totally forgot about Tim Thomas. I totally take him as a back up for 1.5 ish
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:31 PM ET


You being one if them right now?

- Big_Lightnin

When was i a douche? ?
Kinggilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tecumseh, ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:31 PM ET
I actually believe u on this. Who would make this up?
- coolehmon41



Not me man.....and if I was making something up with the Jets, wouldnt I mention bigger names? the deal makes the Leafs dangerous moving forward....money and less headaches when it comes to dealing with Franson again next off season....only to get nothing for him. Clitsome is actaully pretty steady, makes $2 million and dont forget the 2nd or 3rd rounder....this is how you build winners....high draft picks!
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:32 PM ET
God I wish we still had Jeff Finger
- walshyleafsfan


Finger ----> (0) Clitsome
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:32 PM ET
This is the guy that called the Winnik signing four days ago and nailed the amount as well. Although he might just be getting us back cause quite a few people were douche's.
- Yeti1181


I was doing my best douche. Just messing around. I don't care either way.

And please drop the apostrophe from douches.

See, just being the best douche I can be.
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:32 PM ET
This is the guy that called the Winnik signing four days ago and nailed the amount as well. Although he might just be getting us back cause quite a few people were douche's.
- Yeti1181

I think we need a "KG#" scale to replace e1-e5....
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:33 PM ET
Not me man.....and if I was making something up with the Jets, wouldnt I mention bigger names? the deal makes the Leafs dangerous moving forward....money and less headaches when it comes to dealing with Franson again next off season....only to get nothing for him. Clitsome is actaully pretty steady, makes $2 million and dont forget the 2nd or 3rd rounder....this is how you build winners....high draft picks!
- Kinggilmour

I imagine they might have some other deals working on as well.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 28 @ 10:33 PM ET
I can definitely imagine they want JR and CF gone though. CF has been a headache it seems, and it's obvious they just aren't keen on JR. But, yeah I dunno about if they could get more or not? 2nd picks are rare in Toronto.
- walshyleafsfan


I can imagine they want value back for both players. Nobody wants to ship out a player at any/all costs unless they're a distraction or they have an albatross of a contract. Reimer's contract is exceptional value and Franson's league average; neither are distractions or locker room cancers that need to be moved out at all costs.

I could see a swap of Franson and Clitsome and a 2nd/3rd conditional, but that's a downgrade in my opinion: the guy's never played a full season and would only take away a spot from Granberg or Percy.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:33 PM ET
Supposedly the surgery was to fix all the brokenness
- Big_Lightnin

Lupul surgery. That should do it.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:33 PM ET
I was doing my best douche. Just messing around. I don't care either way.

And please drop the apostrophe from douches.

See, just being the best douche I can be.

- bloatedmosquito

My phone keeps auto correcting it to that for some reason.
Kinggilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tecumseh, ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:34 PM ET
Not me man.....and if I was making something up with the Jets, wouldnt I mention bigger names? the deal makes the Leafs dangerous moving forward....money and less headaches when it comes to dealing with Franson again next off season....only to get nothing for him. Clitsome is actaully pretty steady, makes $2 million and dont forget the 2nd or 3rd rounder....this is how you build winners....high draft picks!
- Kinggilmour



read the book "the extra 2%" and see what Dubas will be doing with this team in the next few years. Bringing in Babcock next season...this team could finally be going in the right direction. Go to the draft, let the "core" play and help by signing these 1 year deals that force FA to earn a second contract.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:35 PM ET
Not me man.....and if I was making something up with the Jets, wouldnt I mention bigger names? the deal makes the Leafs dangerous moving forward....money and less headaches when it comes to dealing with Franson again next off season....only to get nothing for him. Clitsome is actaully pretty steady, makes $2 million and dont forget the 2nd or 3rd rounder....this is how you build winners....high draft picks!
- Kinggilmour


You were right last time. Don't know much about clitsome. Is he better than franson?
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:37 PM ET
read the book "the extra 2%" and see what Dubas will be doing with this team in the next few years. Bringing in Babcock next season...this team could finally be going in the right direction. Go to the draft, let the "core" play and help by signing these 1 year deals that force FA to earn a second contract.
- Kinggilmour

JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:38 PM ET
read the book "the extra 2%" and see what Dubas will be doing with this team in the next few years. Bringing in Babcock next season...this team could finally be going in the right direction. Go to the draft, let the "core" play and help by signing these 1 year deals that force FA to earn a second contract.
- Kinggilmour


I love the one year deals. Makes the team much better.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:38 PM ET
You were right last time. Don't know much about clitsome. Is he better than franson?
- JVR_42_PK81

You're better than Franson.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:38 PM ET
I love the one year deals. Makes the team much better.
- JVR_42_PK81

Flexibility.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 28 @ 10:38 PM ET
I actually believe u on this. Who would make this up?
- coolehmon41


I don't. Everything Nonis and Reimer have said on the radio over the last week indicates that Reimer will be given every opportunity to take back the starting position; this is why Reimer chose to sign again and for two years. He thought "we were done", but was told otherwise.

They could still move him, but Nonis said he didn't feel comfortable with any offers that presented themselves. Yes, the two-year deal improves the desirability of the player, but I don't see a lot of options out there and certainly don't see moving a serviceable 1B with a great contract along with a point-producing big-body d-man for Clitsome and a conditional pick.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:40 PM ET
You were right last time. Don't know much about clitsome. Is he better than franson?
- JVR_42_PK81


Do you think the leaf organization is getting tired of franson's act? He's been combative during contract negotiations ever since being traded to the leafs.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:41 PM ET
You're better than Franson.
- Woderwick


I should be in the NHL then.
Kinggilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: tecumseh, ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
I don't. Everything Nonis and Reimer have said on the radio over the last week indicates that Reimer will be given every opportunity to take back the starting position; this is why Reimer chose to sign again and for two years. He thought "we were done", but was told otherwise.

They could still move him, but Nonis said he didn't feel comfortable with any offers that presented themselves. Yes, the two-year deal improves the desirability of the player, but I don't see a lot of options out there and certainly don't see moving a serviceable 1B with a great contract along with a point-producing big-body d-man for Clitsome and a conditional pick.

- gravyface


Gravy, The leafs dont trust Reimer anymore, they dont want him there and he doesnt want to be there. They HAD to sign him in order to complete a deal with the Jets...the leafs are very high on Peluso as well and have been trying to work him into a deal coming back.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
You're better than Franson.
- Woderwick

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