it's clear you get defensive. You say they're good, i say they're bad. difference is you say things like:

'you have no clue what you are talking about'

'you have no idea what advanced stats are'

'too stubborn'

good work. Mature. Keep in mind advanced stats are kind off affected by you know, the other 4 guys on the ice with winnik, polak etc. But i don't know anything about them.
- clark_griswold

He has played in Anehiem,Colorado and San Jose putting up good possession numbers so your right you know nothing about the players he has played with

oh so you mean winnik wouldn't have as good corsi / fenwick possession numbers on Edmonton as he did on the ducks? Oh i see.....the better teams have the puck more. Noted.
- clark_griswold

Just like he was on a bad team in Colorado. Had good possession numbers. Note that?

He has played in Anehiem,Colorado and San Jose putting up good possession numbers so your right you know nothing about the players he has played with
- JVR_42_PK81

yes. all brutal teams.

I'll bet you've never seen Winnik play? Just invest in NHL gamecentre. Instead of hearing about and reading about players the leafs may acquire or have acquired, you can see them for yourselves.

Look all im saying is with all the $ thrown around, there's a reason the leafs signings have been so late and so cheap. And it's not because these guys gave the leafs a hometown discount.

Just like he was on a bad team in Colorado. Had good possession numbers. Note that?
- JVR_42_PK81

you win just for using these . Those are awesome.

Just by looking at those weight numbers - once could deduce that gunner could probably skate much faster than a guy who weighs 40lbs more
- MTL1

Or to put it another way, Gunnar was wimpy.

Max contracts:

Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league’s regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.

Starting with the largest and working our way down, teams are only allowed to have up to 90 players on its reserve list, whether signed to a standard player contract (SPC) or unsigned. From there teams are only allowed to have up to 50 players signed to contracts for any given season, including those for the players on the active roster and injured reserve lists. The unsigned players are draft picks of the club who have not yet been signed. In most cases, an organization retains an unsigned drafted player’s rights for two seasons after his drafted year, with some extended timeframes provided for US College players and for European players, among others, but that’s for another topic later on.

Every player on the 23-person active NHL roster, plus any player on the injured reserve list, must be under contract (and count toward the 50 contract maximum) and every team must have at least 24 players and three goaltenders under an SPC. Beyond those parameters, a team has wide latitude to make up its 50 contracts. In actuality, most teams opt not to use the full 50-contract maximum to give the organization the flexibility to make roster moves – trades, waiver claims, or player signings – at any given time. Most teams carry a significant number of signed players at the minor professional level, AHL being the highest minor pro league in North America. Since these players are already signed to contracts, it’s easy for clubs to recall the player(s) to the NHL as needed.

Other players may be signed to contracts but returned to the player’s junior club – most often this takes place between an NHL club and Canadian Major Junior teams (teams that play in the Ontario Hockey League, Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, or Western Hockey League, collectively the CHL). But 18 and 19-year-old players assigned to their team in the CHL do not count against the 50-contract maximum, until they have played at least 11 NHL games in one season.
- Iggysbff

Thank god for captain seriousness here, or we'd speculate and speculate and speculate.

He has played in Anehiem,Colorado and San Jose putting up good possession numbers so your right you know nothing about the players he has played with
- JVR_42_PK81

Nerd.

yes. all brutal teams.

I'll bet you've never seen Winnik play? Just invest in NHL gamecentre. Instead of hearing about and reading about players the leafs may acquire or have acquired, you can see them for yourselves.

Look all im saying is with all the $ thrown around, there's a reason the leafs signings have been so late and so cheap. And it's not because these guys gave the leafs a hometown discount.
- clark_griswold

Yes because all players should be signed on the first day of free agency or its a bad signing. They have been late and cheap because they are bottom 6 forwards and depth players. Did you know teams aren't made just of the first line?

Or to put it another way, Gunnar was wimpy.
- TML60

What the (frank) does weight have to do with speed anyway lmao

What the (frank) does weight have to do with speed anyway lmao
- Bigzby

Lindros was slow cause he was so big.

What the (frank) does weight have to do with speed anyway lmao
- Bigzby

some what...Gardiner vs Buff

yes. all brutal teams.

I'll bet you've never seen Winnik play? Just invest in NHL gamecentre. Instead of hearing about and reading about players the leafs may acquire or have acquired, you can see them for yourselves.

Look all im saying is with all the $ thrown around, there's a reason the leafs signings have been so late and so cheap. And it's not because these guys gave the leafs a hometown discount.
- clark_griswold

I figure a lot of the signings have been cheap because they're depth players.

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Holland-Santorelli-Lupul
Kadri-Kontiola-Clarskon
Winnik-Komarov-Frattin
-Booth
- mochoson

You don't really think Santorelli is better than Kadri right...

I figure a lot of the signings have been cheap because they're depth players.
- Zezel

No he/she doesn't understand that.

Yes because all players should be signed on the first day of free agency or its a bad signing. They have been late and cheap because they are bottom 6 forwards and depth players. Did you know teams aren't made just of the first line?
- JVR_42_PK81

You're right. Greatly improved 22nd place team. I stand corrected sir.

I figure a lot of the signings have been cheap because they're depth players.
- Zezel

and because there's a chance they won't even get signed.

take the million or go work at GM

What the (frank) does weight have to do with speed anyway lmao
- Bigzby

I'd say hip injury is a more relevant stat.

some what...Gardiner vs Buff
- Garnie

You could argue the heavier player would end up faster after the initial 3-5 steps due to continuation of the heaviness.


Someone smart knows what I'm Bill Ny'ing right now.

how are things?

are you back at work or on the holiday stretch?
- Garnie

Just settling into the month off



It's not too bad I gotta admit

I figure a lot of the signings have been cheap because they're depth players.
- Zezel

depth as in fringe. But i don't understand that.

You could argue the heavier player would end up faster after the initial 3-5 steps due to continuation of the heaviness.


Someone smart knows what I'm Bill Ny'ing right now.
- Bigzby

maybe,,the play could be over before the big guy gets wound up

maybe I'm just not SMRT

and because there's a chance they won't even get signed.

take the million or go work at GM
- Garnie

what do you mean? you see their corsi?

What the (frank) does weight have to do with speed anyway lmao
- Bigzby

Let's put polak and gunner in an ol fashion nhl skills fastest skater race

You're right. Greatly improved 22nd place team. I stand corrected sir.
- clark_griswold

That wouldn't be greatly improved at all.

depth as in fringe. But i don't understand that.
- clark_griswold

we are replacing fringe with fringe...hoping the new fringe is a little better than the old fringe AMIRIGHT?