DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Has a save percentage below .915 in 65% (13 out of 20) career seasons. - BINGO!
Right place right time.
Terrific goalie. Best of all time? He's not even close to the discussion.
You think Marty wins Cups in Montreal in 86 and 93? |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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That's the thing about goaltenders, though. The only fair indicator is save percentage, and even that i flawed based on quality of shots faced.
Save percentage is simplistic, but it applies about as evenly across the board as any stat can. Nothing else we have is more indicative of a goaltender's individual performance. - BINGO!
They are all very flawed stats for goalies. Team play has huge impact on all of them. |
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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Leafs would need to give up Kadri, Gardiner, + 1st to get Kane. - Scooby_Doo
Not enough... |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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They are all very flawed stats for goalies. Team play has huge impact on all of them. - Yeti1181
He's right though, sv% is the best of them. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Not enough... - whipper334
You're right, to get that package they'd have to throw something in with Kane. |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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He's right though, sv% is the best of them. - prock
Not really you have to factor in quality of shots. If you're team gives I'm numerous shots you're Sv percentage goes up, devils were giving up like 20 shots a game he lets in two goals his sv% is 90. No account for quality of shots. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Not really you have to factor in quality of shots. If you're team gives I'm numerous shots you're Sv percentage goes up, devils were giving up like 20 shots a game he lets in two goals his sv% is 90. No account for quality of shots. - Yeti1181
You're saying there is a single better stat than sv%? Which do you feel is better? GAA? Wins? |
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: waterloo, ON Joined: 01.25.2010
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Kane 19 goals last year? Hurt for 75% of the season.
Kane kills penalties
Kane hits, scores and fights
Kadri is a one dimensional centre, has no defence, can't kill a penalty for the life of him and has the body of a teenager that couldn't do anything physical if he wanted to.
Kane >>>>> Kadri
Keep Kadri, don't want him and don't need him.
Kane will not be traded this offseason, especially not to the leafs. Count on it! - Tagleeandeddy
lol try being non bias |
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MMFlames
Calgary Flames |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.06.2010
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I'm thinking Reimer/Kadri for Kane + Pick |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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You're saying there is a single better stat than sv%? Which do you feel is better? GAA? Wins? - prock
No they all have faults that rely on team in front of them. |
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You're saying there is a single better stat than sv%? Which do you feel is better? GAA? Wins? - prock
I think goalie is the one position where you have to actually watch the guy more so than the stats to see his ability. You can judge a forward/d-man more on stats precisely than a goaltender. |
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: waterloo, ON Joined: 01.25.2010
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It always blows my mind to look at Brodeur's stats and how obscenely average he was through his entire career. - BINGO!
You do realize how old he is and when he stated his career. A 800 save % was really good back then since goaltending hadn't evolved into that it is today. He has been elite his hole career |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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I think goalie is the one position where you have to actually watch the guy more so than the stats to see his ability. You can judge a forward/d-man more on stats precisely than a goaltender. - YzermanIsTheMan
Exactly |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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You do realize how old he is and when he stated his career. A 800% was really good back then since goaltending hadn't evolved into that it is today. He has been elite his hole career - jake24242
Oh FFS.... |
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: waterloo, ON Joined: 01.25.2010
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Oh FFS.... - Iggysbff
herp a derp? |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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Oh FFS.... - Iggysbff
Solid argument you have there. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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herp a derp? - jake24242
Yes thats all you do.... |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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Yes thats all you do.... - Iggysbff
And you wonder why you get constantly banned? |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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No they all have faults that rely on team in front of them. - Yeti1181
Every stat, for all positions, have faults.
Goaltending, specifically, is the hardest. However, of all the stats, sv% is the best one.
I never said it was perfect. I said, like the other guy, that despite them all having faults, sv% is the best one. |
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: waterloo, ON Joined: 01.25.2010
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Yes thats all you do.... - Iggysbff
Ban this 5 year old please. |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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Every stat, for all positions, have faults.
Goaltending, specifically, is the hardest. However, of all the stats, sv% is the best one.
I never said it was perfect. I said, like the other guy, that despite them all having faults, sv% is the best one. - prock
Might be the best one but it's still pointless to use that one to dismiss all the others. |
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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And you wonder why you get constantly banned? - Yeti1181
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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You're right, to get that package they'd have to throw something in with Kane. - prock
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Might be the best one but it's still pointless to use that one to dismiss all the others. - Yeti1181
I don't know where anyone said all the others should be dismissed. The guy even mentioned that he's aware it's flawed. So, those first five words you posted above.... kind show that you're disagreeing for nothing. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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- whipper334
Ban this clown please. |
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