skinner's on pace to be better
- Flyfreaky

yeah, but he has the unfair advantage of being able to play in the trapezoid.

Gretzky DID at one point try to sign with the Leafs. It was at the tail end of his career, but he was still pretty damn good. I think it was when he ended up with St. Louis or NYR.

The Leafs turned him down. Probably put the money towards Darby Hendrickson or something. Leaf management at it’s finest.
- prock

All I have been hearing is that Kane is a terrible personality in the locker room. I have heard nothing bad about JVR's personality. Unless you can pull something up. So at this point Kane has a bad rep and JVR dosnt.
- JVR_42_PK81

People have made that crap up about Kane, basically based off a photo from Vegas with a wad of cash in hand.

Has there been a single other incident you can think of?

If I had 50 grand in my hands, I'd take a photo like that too.

It always blows my mind to look at Brodeur's stats and how obscenely average he was through his entire career.
- BINGO!

Has the most career wins and shut outs those are pretty good stats.

yeah, but he has the unfair advantage of being able to play in the trapezoid.
- BINGO!

skinner's youth and skillz will more than compensate for that

Has the most career wins and shut outs those are pretty good stats.
- Yeti1181

i hate him and (frank) the devils

- Flyfreaky

Have you not read that story? I believe he himself has done interviews on it. F*&king idiots turned him down.

pre-salary cap, why would they do that? Think about it, the number of Leaf jerseys with "GRETZKY" on the back sold would pay for him.

Gretzky DID at one point try to sign with the Leafs. It was at the tail end of his career, but he was still pretty damn good. I think it was when he ended up with St. Louis or NYR.

The Leafs turned him down. Probably put the money towards Darby Hendrickson or something. Leaf management at it’s finest.
- prock

It was the owners who axed the deal if you're going to bash at least get it right.

i hate him and (frank) the devils
- Flyfreaky

Has the most career wins and shut outs those are pretty good stats.
- Yeti1181

Has a save percentage below .915 in 65% (13 out of 20) career seasons.

It was the owners who axed the deal if you're going to bash at least get it right.
- Yeti1181

Owners, management. Whatever. Sheer stupidity.

Have you not read that story? I believe he himself has done interviews on it. F*&king idiots turned him down.

pre-salary cap, why would they do that? Think about it, the number of Leaf jerseys with "GRETZKY" on the back sold would pay for him.
- prock

he just wanted to promote his restaurant

- Yeti1181

i got your tongue right here

he just wanted to promote his restaurant
- Flyfreaky

I was actually at his restaurant just over a week ago. Stamkos was there, I kid you not. Rooftop patio - Oasis.

People have made that crap up about Kane, basically based off a photo from Vegas with a wad of cash in hand.

Has there been a single other incident you can think of?

If I had 50 grand in my hands, I'd take a photo like that too.
- prock

Yes many. A whole bunch of restaurant and bar complaints. An assault charge in Vancouver. There is way more to it than one photo...

I was actually at his restaurant just over a week ago. Stamkos was there, I kid you not. Rooftop patio - Oasis.
- prock

how was the food?

I was actually at his restaurant just over a week ago. Stamkos was there, I kid you not. Rooftop patio - Oasis.
- prock

Stamkos to the Leafs (e3)

Yes many. A whole bunch of restaurant and bar complaints. An assault charge in Vancouver. There is way more to it than one photo...
- Iggysbff

nothing good happens in vancouver

Gretzky DID at one point try to sign with the Leafs. It was at the tail end of his career, but he was still pretty damn good. I think it was when he ended up with St. Louis or NYR.

The Leafs turned him down. Probably put the money towards Darby Hendrickson or something. Leaf management at it’s finest.
- prock

Good to know we're at least consistent with one thing

how was the food?
- Flyfreaky

I didn't eat. I went after the Jays game, and I was completely sh!tfaced.

I didn't eat. I went after the Jays game, and I was completely sh!tfaced.
- prock

Has a save percentage below .915 in 65% (13 out of 20) career seasons.
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What about his GAA? You ve shown 1 stat. Which in his defence if you see very low shot totals letting in a goal hurts more against it. Similar to Bernier being high due to numerous shots as well.

Yes many. A whole bunch of restaurant and bar complaints. An assault charge in Vancouver. There is way more to it than one photo...
- Iggysbff

From some Vancouver guy he's known for years.

Have you ever spoken to a Canucks fan? Gonna go out on a limb and say it was probably justified.

What about his GAA? You ve shown 1 stat. Which in his defence if you see very low shot totals letting in a goal hurts more against it. Similar to Bernier being high due to numerous shots as well.
- Yeti1181

That's the thing about goaltenders, though. The only fair indicator is save percentage, and even that i flawed based on quality of shots faced.

Save percentage is simplistic, but it applies about as evenly across the board as any stat can. Nothing else we have is more indicative of a goaltender's individual performance.

That's the thing about goaltenders, though. The only fair indicator is save percentage, and even that i flawed based on quality of shots faced.

Save percentage is simplistic, but it applies about as evenly across the board as any stat can. Nothing else we have is more indicative of a goaltender's individual performance.
- BINGO!

the only thing i count is stanley cups, if you have them, then you're good