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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
True, but beginning of the season is the worst time to move a D.
- jmatchett383


I know. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the makeup of this current roster. They've put themselves in a difficult position with the contracts they've given out. Certain guys may be harder to move than people think
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 28 @ 5:05 PM ET
What's he gonna do with his skates? Slice some rolls and make some sandwiches?
- jmatchett383

Escape perilous situations (c'mon, keep with the keyboard humor)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 5:15 PM ET
I know. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the makeup of this current roster. They've put themselves in a difficult position with the contracts they've given out. Certain guys may be harder to move than people think
- PhillySportsGuy


I think any one of our defensemen could be moved, we just may not get a solid return. Grossmann could be moved, but his TDL return would be a lot better than his opening night return.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 5:16 PM ET
Escape perilous situations (c'mon, keep with the keyboard humor)
- BulliesPhan87


I did. I used all letters that appeared on the keyboard.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:17 PM ET
I know. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the makeup of this current roster. They've put themselves in a difficult position with the contracts they've given out. Certain guys may be harder to move than people think
- PhillySportsGuy

come on man everyone overrates Brayden Coburn here so he must be easy to move
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 5:19 PM ET
come on man everyone overrates Brayden Coburn here so he must be easy to move
- 2Real


Have you ever thought about auditioning for the SJ Sharks blogger for this site? That way you could focus more on the annual playoff collapse after a year of fawning over them instead of just dumping on the Flyers constantly.

Oh, and hippies suck.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 28 @ 5:21 PM ET
come on man everyone overrates Brayden Coburn here so he must be easy to move
- 2Real


Coburn would be easy to move. I worry about some of the others.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:29 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Laughton's Development, Ashbee's Birthday, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


Would like to see him on the roster even as winger which I believe he can play but no issues if it's in the AHL to start.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
Have you ever thought about auditioning for the SJ Sharks blogger for this site? That way you could focus more on the annual playoff collapse after a year of fawning over them instead of just dumping on the Flyers constantly.

Oh, and hippies suck.

- jmatchett383

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 28 @ 5:34 PM ET
Coburn would be easy to move. I worry about some of the others.
- PhillySportsGuy


Grossmann could be moved, at 3.5 his cap it is reasonable and there are always teams looking to add size, snarl and solid pk ability on D. You may not get a whole lot for him, but you'd have no prob moving him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:35 PM ET
The opposite is true, Schenn has played quite a bit at wing in the NHL. You seem to be saying that it's no doubt that Laughton will be a better defensive center. I'm saying that he's played 5 games and it's not certain he will.


- Jsaquella



That's not what he's saying at all, or he wouldn't have posted if Laughton proves to be the better defensive center. I think what he's trying to say basically is Laughton might wind up having the better all around game more suited to a center role on the 3rd line. With Couturier not being moved from center, the best spot for Schenn might be on the wing.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:39 PM ET
Have you ever thought about auditioning for the SJ Sharks blogger for this site? That way you could focus more on the annual playoff collapse after a year of fawning over them instead of just dumping on the Flyers constantly.

Oh, and hippies suck.

- jmatchett383

i dont' live in SF so i agree with you hippies suck
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
I know. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the makeup of this current roster. They've put themselves in a difficult position with the contracts they've given out. Certain guys may be harder to move than people think
- PhillySportsGuy


The only potentially difficult position I see them being in is with Lecavalier. They would have no problem moving a defenseman if they needed to.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 28 @ 5:41 PM ET
Have you ever thought about auditioning for the SJ Sharks blogger for this site? That way you could focus more on the annual playoff collapse after a year of fawning over them instead of just dumping on the Flyers constantly.

Oh, and hippies suck.

- jmatchett383

We do not.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 28 @ 5:43 PM ET
Would like to see him on the roster even as winger which I believe he can play but no issues if it's in the AHL to start.
- ob18

He played some wing when they double shifted him in the playoffs. Of course he played D too so that might be a good idea too on most nights.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:43 PM ET
Not me when you factor in cost and stroke
- Jsaquella

Stroke had identifiable reparable cause. He may have future injuries, but not from a hole in his heart that is repaired. That doesn't bother me as much as cost, although maybe you get a discount because people are afraid of what they don't understand.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
He played some wing when they double shifted him in the playoffs. Of course he played D too so that might be a good idea too on most nights.
- mayorofangrytown


He even played some wing when they loaded up with a line using their best players in regular season games.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:46 PM ET
With Winnik out of the pool, who is left to provide much needed grit to the lineup? I miss Talbot
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
That's not what he's saying at all, or he wouldn't have posted if Laughton proves to be the better defensive center. I think what he's trying to say basically is Laughton might wind up having the better all around game more suited to a center role on the 3rd line. With Couturier not being moved from center, the best spot for Schenn might be on the wing.
- MJL


I get what he's trying to say, the first post he made suggested that it's pretty much a fait accompli that Laughton is a superior defensive player, and should not be considered for use at LW.

My point is both guys may well see time at wing, because of the glut of centers
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 28 @ 5:50 PM ET
Stroke had identifiable reparable cause. He may have future injuries, but not from a hole in his heart that is repaired. That doesn't bother me as much as cost, although maybe you get a discount because people are afraid of what they don't understand.
- bodiva88


In combination, the AAV of his contract, combined with the stroke, in addition to his inconsistent play in his own end would keep me from being interested.

I fully realize that doctors say he's fine, heart wise, but the other factors combined with that make me leery
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:55 PM ET
With Winnik out of the pool, who is left to provide much needed grit to the lineup? I miss Talbot
- coffee junkie


rusty fedz
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
Grossmann could be moved, at 3.5 his cap it is reasonable and there are always teams looking to add size, snarl and solid pk ability on D. You may not get a whole lot for him, but you'd have no prob moving him.
- BiggE


I think so too. I agree with Jmatch, in that, it might be a little difficult in the beginning of the season.

Many of us believed we could move Mez as just a straight salary dump at the beginning of the year. Many of us thought we could move VL while taking on very little or no salary. Most of us thought we could move Hartnell without taking on much salary or paying any of his salary.

I dont know what offers Homer/Hexy got, but I think it's safe to say, many on here have overvalued our own players.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
Have you ever thought about auditioning for the SJ Sharks blogger for this site? That way you could focus more on the annual playoff collapse after a year of fawning over them instead of just dumping on the Flyers constantly.

Oh, and hippies suck.

- jmatchett383


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 28 @ 5:58 PM ET
He even played some wing when they loaded up with a line using their best players in regular season games.
- ob18


Didn't he play some wing at the WJC too?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 5:58 PM ET
I get what he's trying to say, the first post he made suggested that it's pretty much a fait accompli that Laughton is a superior defensive player, and should not be considered for use at LW.

My point is both guys may well see time at wing, because of the glut of centers

- Jsaquella


He's used qualifiers such as might be, or if he proves to be. I think all he's simply saying is based on the player projections, and what kind of players they are described as. The best long term positions might be Laughton at Center and Schenn at Wing. That's all he's saying, and I agree with him. None of us truly know how it's going to work out, and he's just talking future projections, in the same way you're talking about the possibility of Laughton playing Wing.
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