That's more likely. Schneider yielded the 'Nucks a first round (9th overall) pick and Schneider was viewed to have a significantly higher ceiling.
- Canuckleafer

and that at the time was seen as an under payment, it might still be depending on how Schneider and/or if Horvat pans out

okay, just making sure you weren't one of those whose "modest" packages include an E.Kane or Big Buff
- Komisaurus Rex

hahaha....no. A 3rd rounder and a journeyman AHL'er would be generous. I initially thought a 3rd might be one round too high, but from Winnipeg's point of view, a 3rd is a bargain for a potential starting tender.

Stop the BS. He's not going anywhere....if the leafs had any semblance of a defensive system, this wouldn't even be a topic of conversation.
- jimi james

too late they've already ran him out of town. Toronto's D will be even worse next year and Bernier will have an even harder time in his contract year

hahaha....no. A 3rd rounder and a journeyman AHL'er would be generous. I initially thought a 3rd might be one round too high, but from Winnipeg's point of view, a 3rd is a bargain for a potential starting tender.
- aj_furf

a 3rd rounder is a steep price to pay for an unproven tendy and if the Jets falter again that could look more like a 2nd rounder. Won't happen unless Garth Snow takes over the reigns in Winnipeg.

too late they've already ran him out of town. Toronto's D will be even worse next year and Bernier will have an even harder time in his contract year
- Komisaurus Rex

No

Given the fact that Nonis is not conferring with Dave and Claude anymore, there may be more to a bigger deal.

I would see a deal for Dustin Byfuglien as the bigger possibilty. The Jets moved him back to being a winger and were intent on trying to get him out of the line-up last year at the deadline. Shanny has to like the size that Big-Byf plays with so I could see something like:
Reimer, Lupul and Franson for Byfuglien and a pick or a throw in for cap reasons (like Grant Clitsome). The Leaf's get someone they can use on the wing or on D, and a big shot on the pp, not to mention save about 3M or so in cap space to make another deal if needed.

a 3rd rounder is a steep price to pay for an unproven tendy and if the Jets falter again that could look more like a 2nd rounder. Won't happen unless Garth Snow takes over the reigns in Winnipeg.
- Komisaurus Rex

let's be realistic...a 3rd round pick is not a steep price to pay for anyone on the roster who will be dressing in your everyday lineup.

Given the fact that Nonis is not conferring with Dave and Claude anymore, there may be more to a bigger deal.

I would see a deal for Dustin Byfuglien as the bigger possibilty. The Jets moved him back to being a winger and were intent on trying to get him out of the line-up last year at the deadline. Shanny has to like the size that Big-Byf plays with so I could see something like:
Reimer, Lupul and Franson for Byfuglien and a pick or a throw in for cap reasons (like Grant Clitsome). The Leaf's get someone they can use on the wing or on D, and a big shot on the pp, not to mention save about 3M or so in cap space to make another deal if needed.
- Jokerswild69

There would be much better offers for Buff than a fringe starter, an injury prone has been and a defensive liability defender

too late they've already ran him out of town. Toronto's D will be even worse next year and Bernier will have an even harder time in his contract year
- Komisaurus Rex

There would be much better offers for Buff than a fringe starter, an injury prone has been and a defensive liability defender
- Komisaurus Rex

Ya and Buyfuglien isn't a defensive liability

Free Sensnucksnocups......
- Iggysbff

no thanks

a 3rd rounder is a steep price to pay for an unproven tendy and if the Jets falter again that could look more like a 2nd rounder. Won't happen unless Garth Snow takes over the reigns in Winnipeg.
- Komisaurus Rex

You really have no clue what you are talking about. A 3rd round pick couldn't get you a young starter on a very good contract? Really? Vancouver got a 4th liner in Dorsett for a 3rd round pick. Edmonton got a 4th liner for a 4th round pick. learn the values of players and draft picks. Please.

Kessel > P. Kane. And if you disagree with that, you still think it would take 24 other players to equal Kane's value on top of that? Can we overate Kane any more than we already do?
- SolidGoldBricks

You really have no clue what you are talking about. A 3rd round pick couldn't get you a young starter on a very good contract? Really? Vancouver got a 4th liner in Dorsett for a 3rd round pick. Edmonton got a 4th liner for a 4th round pick. learn the values of players and draft picks. Please.
- JVR_42_PK81

once again, Reimer isn't a proven starter, so no. Like Winnipeg needs to forfeit another high pick for a flop goaltender. Reimer isn't an upgrade to Pavelec.

Also, that's Edmonton....Edmonton hasnt made the playoffs in 8 years due to poop management.

Reimers from Manitoba, therefore he MUST be going there in a trade.

once again, Reimer isn't a proven starter, so no. Like Winnipeg needs to forfeit another high pick for a flop goaltender. Reimer isn't an upgrade to Pavelec.
- Komisaurus Rex

and tell me why he is not an upgrade over pavelic. Please. Enlighten me. All I have been hearing from jets fans is Reimer would be a huge upgrade over pavelic. And sure he's not completely proven. But it's not like he hasn't played a game in the NHL. He has started for Toronto and brought them to the playoffs while playing very good in the playoffs. His numbers prove he is a good goalie. SO ONCE AGAIN I ask you to do everyone a favour and leant values of players and picks. Please. I'm losing IQ points every time you comment.

Reimers from Manitoba, therefore he MUST be going there in a trade.
- Surrender Monkey

If Reimer is worth a 2nd then the Habs should just go ahead and trade Budaj for a 1st

and tell me why he is not an upgrade over pavelic. Please. Enlighten me. All I have been hearing from jets fans is Reimer would be a huge upgrade over pavelic. And sure he's not completely proven. But it's not like he hasn't played a game in the NHL. He has started for Toronto and brought them to the playoffs while playing very good in the playoffs. His numbers prove he is a good goalie. SO ONCE AGAIN I ask you to do everyone a favour and leant values of players and picks. Please. I'm losing IQ points every time you comment.
- JVR_42_PK81

Reimer, Pavelec, what difference does it make? 2 mediocre goalies who you're not going to win anything with. if everything that you say about him is true, Toronto would not have traded for Bernier.

and tell me why he is not an upgrade over pavelic. Please. Enlighten me. All I have been hearing from jets fans is Reimer would be a huge upgrade over pavelic. And sure he's not completely proven. But it's not like he hasn't played a game in the NHL. He has started for Toronto and brought them to the playoffs while playing very good in the playoffs. His numbers prove he is a good goalie. SO ONCE AGAIN I ask you to do everyone a favour and leant values of players and picks. Please. I'm losing IQ points every time you comment.
- JVR_42_PK81

"has started for Toronto"....everyone has started for Toronto at some point in their career, doesn't mean they're a good goaltender. Stop overvaluing your players. Drew MacIntyre started for the Leafs this year, are you gonna try and trade him for a 2nd? no, get your head out of your ass

Also, that's Edmonton....Edmonton hasnt made the playoffs in 8 years due to poop management.
- Komisaurus Rex

Bollig(a fourth liner) traded to Calgary for a 3rd round pick.
Dorset(a 4th liner) traded to Vancouver for a 3rd round pick.
Mike Brown(a 4th liner) traded to Edmonton for a 4th round pick.
Stephniak(a third liner rental player at the deadline) traded for a third round pick.
Reto Berra(an UNPROVEN BACKUP) traded to Colorado for a 2nd round pick.
Marcel Goc(a third line rental player) traded for a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick
Raffi Torres(a 4th liner) traded to the sharks for a 3rd round pick.

Need me to go any further

Thanks again EK for giving us another Leaf bashing blog!

"has started for Toronto"....everyone has started for Toronto at some point in their career, doesn't mean they're a good goaltender. Stop overvaluing your players. Drew MacIntyre started for the Leafs this year, are you gonna try and trade him for a 2nd? no, get your head out of your ass
- Komisaurus Rex

seriously? He started ONE game. One game. Are you really that dumb? Do I have to spell it out for you? Reimer has been a starter for Toronto for Years. Not last year because Bernier is better than him. He posted a .924 save percentage as a STARTER to bring us into the playoffs. He then posted a .923 saver percentage as a STARTER in the playoffs. He's a young goalie with good potential.

Thanks again EK for giving us another Leaf bashing blog!
- nbboy

Love em or hate em, Leafs articles will generate hits. He should try a Crosby rumor, see what damage that can still produce these days.

Bollig(a fourth liner) traded to Calgary for a 3rd round pick.
Dorset(a 4th liner) traded to Vancouver for a 3rd round pick.
Mike Brown(a 4th liner) traded to Edmonton for a 4th round pick.
Stephniak(a third liner rental player at the deadline) traded for a third round pick.
Reto Berra(an UNPROVEN BACKUP) traded to Colorado for a 2nd round pick.
Marcel Goc(a third line rental player) traded for a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick

Need me to go any further
- JVR_42_PK81

It's the year of the 4th liner I guess, not surprising those deals were all Canadian teams and the Reto Berra deal was a deadline deal where Colorado likely overpaid but he has high expectations. My logic is if Cheveldayoff is going to give up a 2nd rounder for a goaltender he can do much better than Reimer, I cant see him as a legitimate starter in the NHL.

seriously? He started ONE game. One game. Are you really that dumb? Do I have to spell it out for you? Reimer has been a starter for Toronto for Years. Not last year because Bernier is better than him. He posted a .924 save percentage as a STARTER to bring us into the playoffs. He then posted a .923 saver percentage as a STARTER in the playoffs. He's a young goalie with good potential.
- JVR_42_PK81

If Reimer is such a great starter, why did they trade for Bernier? It's because he's not