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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
That is cool with me. You have a legit reason to hate them. Everytime I hear Jim Jackson voice crack cause the Flyers didn't have a penalty call go their way I want to strangle something.
- TPC


i don't get the JJ hate. i find him annoying, and i certainly wish they 'd replace him, but he's nothing remotely like jack edwards, or those asshats in pittsburgh, who literally spark me to violence.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:28 PM ET
Doc's voice cracks are the subject of many a legend and wives tale
- Giroux_Is_God

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:29 PM ET
Word...same goes for me. I like this thread. You guys keep good conversations.
- TPC




we really are a good bunch in here, even though some of us don't get along. it makes for good entertainment. and if nothing else, it speaks to the passion of flyers fans. we've had 1000+ posts this offseason. i swear, we care about the team more than the owners and management.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:29 PM ET
i don't get the JJ hate. i find him annoying, and i certainly wish they 'd replace him, but he's nothing remotely like jack edwards, or those asshats in pittsburgh, who literally spark me to violence.
- hammarby31

I don't know dude, I hate Jim Jackson...can't stand that guy. But yea Boston and Pitt's announcers drive me insane to. I need help, so much pisses me off. No wonder I am still single.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
I don't know dude, I hate Jim Jackson...can't stand that guy. But yea Boston and Pitt's announcers drive me insane to. I need help, so much pisses me off. No wonder I am still single.
- TPC

My fantasy team hitting a cool 0/23 sparks me to violence.

(frank)ing seriously?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:30 PM ET


we really are a good bunch in here, even though some of us don't get along. it makes for good entertainment. and if nothing else, it speaks to the passion of flyers fans. we've had 1000+ posts this offseason. i swear, we care about the team more than the owners and management.

- hammarby31

Yea you guys could/should start your own site. Bill is a good blogger. You would have no problem drawing in the traffic
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
My fantasy team hitting a cool 0/23 sparks me to violence.

(frank)ing seriously?

- Giroux_Is_God

For all sports or just hockey?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
For all sports or just hockey?
- TPC

Nah just baseball tonight.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:33 PM ET
Nah just baseball tonight.
- Giroux_Is_God

gotcha...yea I took Chris Davis with the 7th overall pick
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
I don't know dude, I hate Jim Jackson...can't stand that guy. But yea Boston and Pitt's announcers drive me insane to. I need help, so much pisses me off. No wonder I am still single.
- TPC


you'll probably mellow out a bit as you get older. i have. which is frightening really, because i'm still so angry at so many things.
watson1195
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
I think my first big Flyers memory was when I was about 7 and watched the Flyers on TV in '72. Saw them get stomped by the Bruins, but I was really into it because I just loved the game. Later, since I shared the same name as one of the players they were my favorites. My first game was I think in 80. The Flyers fell down 2 quick goals to the Bruins, then Clarke got into a fight with I believe it was Terry O'Reilly and the game just changed from there. I had a friend who worked at American Can when I was a kid and you could collect all of the Flyers team on Canada Dry cans and he brought me a whole uncut sheet of everyone. Still have it today.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
you'll probably mellow out a bit as you get older. i have. which is frightening really, because i'm still so angry at so many things.
- hammarby31



I think I do remember some of your past posts. Pretty funny. Yea drinking seems to help at times, I know not healthy but I am still in my mid 20s.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:39 PM ET
Yea you guys could/should start your own site. Bill is a good blogger. You would have no problem drawing in the traffic
- TPC


i just mentioned a couple of days ago that bill should go on his own. we'd all follow. it's not like ek's blogs are worth a damn.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
i just mentioned a couple of days ago that bill should go on his own. we'd all follow. it's not like ek's blogs are worth a damn.
- hammarby31

What you don't think the Flyers are close to getting Big Buff haha
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:41 PM ET


I think I do remember some of your past posts. Pretty funny. Yea drinking seems to help at times, I know not healthy but I am still in my mid 20s.

- TPC


well...i'll be 42 in a week. the level of hockey rage i had in my 20's was not quantifiable by any unit of measure known to man.

a good chunk of my posts involve anger on some level...even if i'm just telling stories, like the one a couple of pages back about a game i saw as a 13 year old. i still need help.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:42 PM ET
What you don't think the Flyers are close to getting Big Buff haha
- TPC


ha. no. i honestly don't even read his stuff. it's a pure waste of time.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:46 PM ET
well...i'll be 42 in a week. the level of hockey rage i had in my 20's was not quantifiable by any unit of measure known to man.

a good chunk of my posts involve anger on some level...even if i'm just telling stories, like the one a couple of pages back about a game i saw as a 13 year old. i still need help.

- hammarby31

Both of our franchises are due for a cup. Probably has a little something to do with it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:49 PM ET
Both of our franchises are due for a cup. Probably has a little something to do with it.

- TPC


it has everything to do with it. going for 0 for 6, along with several near conference finals misses is just....um...there just aren't words to describe this. and i was in the building to see them lose their last one.

i've been waiting since 1980. it's enough already.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 10:52 PM ET
it has everything to do with it. going for 0 for 6, along with several near conference finals misses is just....um...there just aren't words to describe this. and i was in the building to see them lose their last one.

i've been waiting since 1980. it's enough already.

- hammarby31

Damn that must have sucked, I couldn't imagine being there.

What pisses me off is most people saying the Rangers got embarrassed against the Kings. They lost twice in double OT and once in regular OT. A couple of bounces, and they win that series in 5. The Kings are a great team and I am taking nothing away from them but it just pisses me off.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:06 PM ET
I can't recall my first particular flyers memory, but my first NHL memory was the rangers winning the cup in. 94 (I was 4 years old at time) but being from upstate NY I was naturally a rangers fan, until the 97 eastern conference finals. It was right after it started playing hockey, and went into the series a rangers fan. It was the first time I had I really watched the flyers played and it took me one period of play to start rooting for the flyers, and have (according to some exes) been way to much of a flyers fan ever since (I couldn't disagree with them more). I still have a rangers jersey from my youth days, and seriously contemplated burning it this past post season...

My first flyers game was possibly the worst first flyers game I could imagine. I didn't make it to a game until 2011, my brother and I bought ourselves, our step-brother, and our dad tickets to a game at msg for his birthday. We started the 3.5 hour journey down to the city at 7 AM and couldn't be more excited. Got to the arena around noon (new york traffic is torture). The flyers proceeded to get spanked by the rags 7-0 featuring a hat trick from Callahan. Until that game I had a soft spot for the rags from my young days, since, the only team I dislike more than them are the pens.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 11:08 PM ET
Damn that must have sucked, I couldn't imagine being there.

What pisses me off is most people saying the Rangers got embarrassed against the Kings. They lost twice in double OT and once in regular OT. A couple of bounces, and they win that series in 5. The Kings are a great team and I am taking nothing away from them but it just pisses me off.

- TPC


it was a strange experience. nevermind the $ it cost. the game was up and down. flyers got behind but then took the lead, then got behind and hartnell tied it late on a carom from in front. at that moment, putting the whole season and how they had gotten there in front of me, it felt like they were going to pull it off, force game 7 and end the misery. but i was so nervous. all of the near misses and heart break...it's always there. the feeling in my stomach...i truly thought i might hurl.

and then...jeff carter hit niemi in the shoulder/face with a gaping, wide open net just after that would have likely forced game 7, and i knew in my bones, they would lose. and they did. and the way they lost was really what made it strange. i never saw the puck go in. i was confused by what was happening, and then suddenly i realized it did and the game was over, and i was just numb. i felt nothing. and that surprised me more than anything. i stayed for a very long time...watched the presentation, and to see that was genuinely special...and all the family piling on the ice...until eventually the reality of it all hit me, and i needed to leave. i took the train in from the burbs, which i never do, and it was a long quiet ride back. when i got home, i went directly upstairs and shaved off my 2 1/2 month old girzzly adams beard. it was hard to take, and i didn't fall asleep for a long time.

as for the rangers and kings, i understand your point of view. i believe the kings were the superior team, and deserved to win, but it could very easily have gone the other way...hockey is funny that way. it was tightly contested, and more entertaining than any of the other rangers series, imo, and i enjoyed watching it. in the end, people can say whatever they want. it doesn't matter. your team didn't win, and that will likely always gnaw at you. it sucks to get that close and not bring it home.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 11:10 PM ET
I can't recall my first particular flyers memory, but my first NHL memory was the rangers winning the cup in. 94 (I was 4 years old at time) but being from upstate NY I was naturally a rangers fan, until the 97 eastern conference finals. It was right after it started playing hockey, and went into the series a rangers fan. It was the first time I had I really watched the flyers played and it took me one period of play to start rooting for the flyers, and have (according to some exes) been way to much of a flyers fan ever since (I couldn't disagree with them more). I still have a rangers jersey from my youth days, and seriously contemplated burning it this past post season...

My first flyers game was possibly the worst first flyers game I could imagine. I didn't make it to a game until 2011, my brother and I bought ourselves, our step-brother, and our dad tickets to a game at msg for his birthday. We started the 3.5 hour journey down to the city at 7 AM and couldn't be more excited. Got to the arena around noon (new york traffic is torture). The flyers proceeded to get spanked by the rags 7-0 featuring a hat trick from Callahan. Until that game I had a soft spot for the rags from my young days, since, the only team I dislike more than them are the pens.

- Girouxsalem90


this is all truly awful. except for the part about you becoming a flyers fan.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 11:15 PM ET
it was a strange experience. nevermind the $ it cost. the game was up and down. flyers got behind but then took the lead, then got behind and hartnell tied it late on a carom from in front. at that moment, putting the whole season and how they had gotten there in front of me, it felt like they were going to pull it off, force game 7 and end the misery. but i was so nervous. all of the near misses and heart break...it's always there. the feeling in my stomach...i truly thought i might hurl.

and then...jeff carter hit niemi in the shoulder/face with a gaping, wide open net just after that would have likely forced game 7, and i knew in my bones, they would lose. and they did. and the way they lost was really what made it strange. i never saw the puck go in. i was confused by what was happening, and then suddenly i realized it did and the game was over, and i was just numb. i felt nothing. and that surprised me more than anything. i stayed for a very long time...watched the presentation, and to see that was genuinely special...and all the family eventually piling on the ice...until eventually the reality of it all hit me, and i needed to leave. i took the train in from the burbs, which i never do, and it was a long quiet ride back. when i got home, i went directly upstairs and shaved off my 2 1/2 month old girzzly adams beard. it was hard to take, and i didn't fall asleep for a long time.

as for the rangers and kings, i understand your point of view. i believe the kings were the superior team, and deserved to win, but it could very easily have gone the other way...hockey is funny that way. it was tightly contested, and more entertaining than any of the other rangers series, imo, and i enjoyed watching it. in the end, people can say whatever they want. it doesn't matter. your team didn't win, and that will likely always gnaw at you. it sucks to get that close and not bring it home.

- hammarby31

Yea how do you watch a Stanley Cup game and not embarrass yourself? Every game this past SCF I was in the fetal position on my couch. I don't know how you go through that in a public venue. Especially with a deciding game in OT.

Yea the Kings were the better team. I think its just the Rangers hate saying they didn't deserve to be there and the Blackhawks were the true final for the kings that pisses me off. I want to slam them against the wall and say you see the Kings won 3 OT games.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
Yea how do you watch a Stanley Cup game and not embarrass yourself? Every game this past SCF I was in the fetal position on my couch. I don't know how you go through that in a public venue. Especially with a deciding game in OT.

Yea the Kings were the better team. I think its just the Rangers hate saying they didn't deserve to be there and the Blackhawks were the true final for the kings that pisses me off. I want to slam them against the wall and say you see the Kings won 3 OT games.

- TPC


it's a good question, and i'm not sure how i make the chameleon transition from watching it live versus watching at home. when i'm home, i am a different person. just out of my mind insane. happy, angry, all of it. when i'm there, somehow i'm able to contain that insanity to a point. i can't contain all of it though. it's not possible. i remember 2 specific moments during the flyers/tampa series in 04, one in game 4 when the flyers scored, i jumped out of my seat and...i'm not kidding...i landed with one foot on each arm rest, like a gymnastics routine. i have no idea how i did this. it was not on purpose, and i didn't fall. the other was the primeau goal to tie game 6 with under 2 minutes to play (which gagne won in ot), and i lost feeling in my arms because i was pumping them so hard. i almost blacked out. it was a bit scary honestly.

any team that gets to the final has done something to deserve to be there. and again hockey is a funny game. and just as equally, a cruel one. the habs won all 10 OT games in 1993 they played in to win the cup. all of them. 10. give me a (frank)ing break. that's just how it goes sometimes.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
it's a good question, and i'm not sure how i make the chameleon transition from watching it live versus watching at home. when i'm home, i am a different person. just out of my mind insane. happy, angry, all of it. when i'm there, somehow i'm able to contain that insanity to a point. i can't contain all of it though. it's not possible. i remember 2 specific moments during the flyers/tampa series in 04, one in game 4 when the flyers scored, i jumped out of my seat and...i'm not kidding...i landed with one foot on each arm rest, like a gymnastics routine. i have no idea how i did this. it was not on purpose, and i didn't fall. the other was the primeau goal to tie game 6 with under 2 minutes to play (which gagne won in ot), and i lost feeling in my arms because i was pumping them so hard. i almost blacked out. it was a bit scary honestly.

any team that gets to the final has done something to deserve to be there. and again hockey is a funny game. and just as equally, a cruel one. the habs won all 10 OT games in 1993 they played in to win the cup. all of them. 10. give me a (frank)ing break. that's just how it goes sometimes.

- hammarby31



That is awesome though. I love the true raw emotion.
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